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mogwai
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Posted - 28 Jun 2008 :  11:54:04 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add mogwai to your friends list Send mogwai a Private Message
How many are there in the UK now? I know Seahorse arabians have Amoroso De Salvadora, but he's only there this year. Where is he usually? Are there more?
Ros
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Sheena
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Posted - 28 Jun 2008 :  11:57:34 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sheena to your friends list Send Sheena a Private Message
I think Gerald Watson of SendCourt Arabians has 2 or three young straight spanish stallions.
Also although not straight spanish don't forget Emma Maxwell's lovely Borneo Son Adawy. He is very smart and doing fabulously with Louisa Biles under saddle.

Alicia


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mogwai
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Posted - 28 Jun 2008 :  12:21:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mogwai to your friends list Send mogwai a Private Message
I've just found Geralds website, what superb horses! I'll have a look at Emmas, thanks
Ros
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 28 Jun 2008 :  1:39:28 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message
Susan George also has a really lovely almost (but not quite) Spanish stallion and he is a super riding horse. she may have more than one but the one I am thinking of has super bloodlines and is well worth looking at if you are looking to use a Spanish stallion.

Barbara

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tamila
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Posted - 28 Jun 2008 :  2:32:30 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tamila to your friends list Send tamila a Private Message
There was Jalisco. But I am not sure whether he is still at stud.

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emma
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Posted - 28 Jun 2008 :  8:46:23 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add emma to your friends list Send emma a Private Message
I also have my boy Al Galero another Borneo son and out of Ayat who is also very successful under saddle.

I see a bit of a theme here with Borneo babies being good under saddle

Emma
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loosefur
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Posted - 28 Jun 2008 :  9:23:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add loosefur to your friends list Send loosefur a Private Message
I'm also very interested in this thread. I looking for a husband for my new mare for next year. I love the Spanish and Spanish related arabs - both for their looks and their temperament as I want to breed a performance arab that is also stunning to look at. There does seem to be very few Spanish stallions at stud in this country - why aren't they more popular?

Emma - I was looking at your lovely website the other day - stunning photos! Adway really took my breath away and that was before I looked at his pedigree and saw he was Spanish related.
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Acorn Arabians
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Posted - 28 Jun 2008 :  9:40:55 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Acorn Arabians to your friends list Send Acorn Arabians a Private Message
AA Caballero ( Borneo x Inffatuation) who will be carriage driving next year for change.
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Sheena
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Posted - 29 Jun 2008 :  08:42:05 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sheena to your friends list Send Sheena a Private Message
Oh Emma I forgot all about your boy Al Galero when I posted. How could I!!?
Al Galero is definitly another proven in performance Borneo son to look at.

Alicia


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Tahir
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Posted - 29 Jun 2008 :  09:08:18 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tahir to your friends list Send Tahir a Private Message
My boy's half Spanish, on his dams side being out of Tambora.

Carla, xx.
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mogwai
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Posted - 29 Jun 2008 :  09:17:53 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mogwai to your friends list Send mogwai a Private Message
Wow, there are some superb stallions out there, and as i thought, a superbly talented as well as exceptionally beautiful type.
Thank you. Loosefur, i'd be interested to see who you choose. How is your mare bred?
Ros
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Tracey@ET
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Posted - 29 Jun 2008 :  3:31:51 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tracey@ET to your friends list Send Tracey@ET a Private Message
My boy Ssinsation stallion of the month or months ..... Lol ....has spanish lines on his dam side through Bint Jamiellah going back to Galero . I have always been a fan of spanish lines love a big spanish eye


www.el-tahira.co.uk
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 29 Jun 2008 :  4:45:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message
Unfortunately we are a bit short of S.S in this country now, although as has been said there are lots of Spanish related stallion's who have a lot to offer,
The breeder of *Sasaki, whom I visited in the states earlier this year has two of the oldest and most treasured S.S stallions left there and she is a gold mine of information about SS. you may remember I wrote an article about Sasaki ( who happens to have put the spanish into Magnum psyche) well another of my article's is about to come out in the AHS news this summer, its about the S.S stallion "Zaon",( Jacio x Onza )bred by Annette Hedley and sold to the states 29 years ago, do look out for it. I was left wondering where our breeding might have been, had he not stayed in this country. Our loss I think so remember not all good horses come from abroad, some are here right under your noses, use them or lose them.here are some pix of both SS stallions


www.dreamfield-arabians.com
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Tahir
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Posted - 29 Jun 2008 :  9:39:09 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tahir to your friends list Send Tahir a Private Message
There was a really good topic a while ago on the golden cross/spanish influence.

This is the link (I think):

http://www.arabianlines.com/forum1/topic_new.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=19256&SearchTerms=golden+cross

Carla, xx.
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 29 Jun 2008 :  10:22:20 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message
I have a golden cross stallion; the love of my life. He is by Crusader out of my straight Spanish mare who I bought from the Maxwell's as a yearling. He is 15 3", pure white with the huge black Spanish eyes and yards of flowing mane and tail. On a foul winter morning when I get up at 4.30am his beautiful head over the stable door makes it all not quite so bad!

Barbara

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chris wesley
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Posted - 30 Jun 2008 :  10:24:02 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chris wesley to your friends list Send chris wesley a Private Message
Originally posted by mogwai

How many are there in the UK now? I know Seahorse arabians have Amoroso De Salvadora, but he's only there this year. Where is he usually? Are there more?
Ros


Amoroso De Salvadora is with Seahorse Arabians for 2 years , so will be with them next season too . He is owned by myself and although all our horses have now been sold I kept this stallion as he is of un-repeatable bloodlines , and I guarantee you won't find a better moving St Spanish with the temparement he has ....Maybe I am biased but why not he's a really fabulous producer and a saint himself .
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S. Colvin
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Posted - 30 Jun 2008 :  2:45:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add S. Colvin to your friends list Send S. Colvin a Private Message
We have 5 straight spanish stallions, and 20 spanish mares.
Procyon lines mainly.
All bred and still owned by the Jenkins family,
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ashabarab
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Posted - 30 Jun 2008 :  4:26:34 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ashabarab to your friends list Send ashabarab a Private Message
barbara gregory in norfolk has a realy beautiful spanish/egyptian stallion called spanish crusader [by crusader out of lavina]
he is a good size too..well worth checking out
sadly he was injured as a youngsters so he has not been out and about but imo he is a hidden treasure!

ash

woops only just noticed that barbara has already posted on this thread! but he is worth the double post l promise you!

Edited by - ashabarab on 30 Jun 2008 4:56:11 PM
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mogwai
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Posted - 30 Jun 2008 :  6:51:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mogwai to your friends list Send mogwai a Private Message
Thank you for all the information. There are some truly superb stallions out there.
Thanks
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DoriBee
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Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  3:30:49 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DoriBee to your friends list Send DoriBee a Private Message
Bumping this thread as IMHO it has come to a premature end, as it were - I was hoping it would turn into an ‘appreciation’/educational thread like the one on Russian arabs. Thought I might learn something useful as my mare was one quarter spanish (a granddaughter of Tabuk by Garbo) and there doesn’t seem to be that much info/that many spanish arabians around, not in the UK anyway? Is this how it’s always been or have they become unpopular/unfashionable, and why? What are their characteristics(both good and bad!)?

Be most grateful for any enlightenment…thanks in advance.
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nikki
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Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  3:35:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nikki to your friends list Send nikki a Private Message
i've seen the most lovely st.spanish stallion in wales owned by valerie.

Tomocyon(sp) is his name, bred by gerald watson

pagey
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loosefur
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Posted - 02 Jul 2008 :  8:34:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add loosefur to your friends list Send loosefur a Private Message
Originally posted by mogwai

Wow, there are some superb stallions out there, and as i thought, a superbly talented as well as exceptionally beautiful type.
Thank you. Loosefur, i'd be interested to see who you choose. How is your mare bred?
Ros


My mare is by Beau Zan (Beau Banacek x Zanna) out of Rashandy (Sunlea Silver Shayne x Rashinka). I'm still on a steep learning curve about bloodlines but I believe she has a fair bit of Crabbet blood.

I fell in love with the Spanish arabs (not even knowing there were different strains of arabs) at the Hedley's open day last year and meeting their Spanish stallions GG Maximo and Madrid Ibn Maximo. They are both stunning to look at and with amazing, friendly and sweet temperaments. Both however are grey and I really want a bay foal (mare is chestnut). I'm starting to think that I should worry less about colour and just aim for the best stallion I can, irrespective of colour.
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 02 Jul 2008 :  8:43:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message
Very sensible, a person who chooses for colour has a lot to learn, because when quality is important the colour is neither here nor there
The horses owned by Annette Hedley are very typical of the spanish horses and I am glad to see people are still keeping the SS going.


www.dreamfield-arabians.com
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loosefur
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Posted - 02 Jul 2008 :  8:58:48 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add loosefur to your friends list Send loosefur a Private Message
Originally posted by LYNDILOU

Very sensible, a person who chooses for colour has a lot to learn, because when quality is important the colour is neither here nor there
The horses owned by Annette Hedley are very typical of the spanish horses and I am glad to see people are still keeping the SS going.


I know it's a daft reason to want a certain colour but in my defence I do have sentimental reasons... Beau Rashella is half sister to my horse of a lifetime Gedenski - who is a beautiful bright bay. The foal will (hopefully) be his successor as my competition horse in due course, hence my dream of having a bay just like him. Of course nothing would ever replace him and the foal will be treasured whatever colour. And it just so happens I keep finding stunning stallions who are grey. I'd never choose a stallion just for his colour and the more research I do the harder the choice seems to become as there are so many beautiful stallions out there. What really draws me to the Spanish is their combination of looks and temperament - it still seems a mystery as to why they aren't more popular in this country.
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mogwai
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Posted - 02 Jul 2008 :  9:42:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mogwai to your friends list Send mogwai a Private Message
As far as i know beau rashella has always thrown bay to a bay stallion. I'm not sure of the genetics of this, but i'm sure the only sure thing is chestnut to chestnut.
I agree with regards colour, however as you say, there are lots to choose from. If you are only going for a one off breeding, why not take your time and find the right conformation, temperament and colour!
Good luck
Ros
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loosefur
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Posted - 02 Jul 2008 :  11:21:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add loosefur to your friends list Send loosefur a Private Message
Hi Ros and thanks!

Yes, you're right. Shelley has had five foals - four to Welsh Cob stallions - all bay and one to a coloured stallion, the offspring being bay and white. Originally I was going to put her back in foal this year but as it was all out of the blue that I had the chance to buy her I decided to wait until next year and give myself loads to time to find the right stallion. This'll be the first foal I've ever bred so want to get everything within my control right. I will probably breed from her again at some point after this, but only if my circumstances are such that I know what future any subsequent foals will have.
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