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saddlebred
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Posted - 23 Jan 2008 :  07:36:49 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add saddlebred to your friends list Send saddlebred a Private Message
Hi folks... I am feeling really, really fed up at the moment. All 3 of my horses have had to have blood test in the last 2 days.

My youngster had an azoturia attack out on a ride - luckily mild but this was the 3rd blood test that she has had since New Year. Box rest etc etc.

My little boys pony who has never been laminitic in her life has been a bit pottery for the last couple of weeks. Looks like she might have Equine Metabolic Syndrome which has induced a mild laminitic attack.

And my old girl is being tested for Cushings. Luckily no laminitis with this one but she has had a non-shedding coat for some time - otherwise fit and well - so I wanted to check in case we need to start an preventative treatment.

After nearly 30 years of horse ownership with no feed/exercise related illnesses I am feeling very confused. Nothing in my management of them has changed.

AAAAARGHHHH!!

And I thought 2008 was going to be a better year for me.
Debbie

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ashabarab
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Posted - 23 Jan 2008 :  12:13:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ashabarab to your friends list Send ashabarab a Private Message
my thoughts are with you...
l know it's not much help but maybe things are not as bad as they seem..please keep us informed

ash
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lol
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Posted - 23 Jan 2008 :  12:18:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lol to your friends list Send lol a Private Message
Hi my thoughts are with you-

but just wanted to let you know that my old lad was disgnosed with cushings a few years ago and the good news is if they catch it early i've heard alot of horses live for many more years either with a slighhtly altered management routine and/or on medication such as pergolide. If the worst comes to the worst and she has got it then hopefully you have caught it early enough as she hasnt developed laminitis yet.

Also, there is evidence to suggest that cushings is hereditary and i've heard that arabs are particularly prone to developing it so I just wanted to try and make you feel better as it could just be one of those horrid things.

Fingers crossed for all your horses and I really hope that you have some good news soon- you sound like you deserve it!

Laura xx


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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 23 Jan 2008 :  1:09:06 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
Good Luck with them all, I heard of a case of lamintitis last week girl's 18year old mare, down the lane...and another one yesterday..

Sue

Edited by - Rozy Rider on 24 Jan 2008 1:35:01 PM
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sarahlock
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Posted - 24 Jan 2008 :  3:02:03 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sarahlock to your friends list Send sarahlock a Private Message
Oh poor Debs ,
this isn`t a good start to the year , my friends Pally gelding used to have bouts of tying up but now he is has regular exercise is much fitter & has lost his flab he is fine ....touch wood ! XX


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heatherr
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Posted - 24 Jan 2008 :  10:11:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add heatherr to your friends list Send heatherr a Private Message
My old mare was diagnosed with cushings in 2006 aged 26 and put on Pergolide. She is so fit and well now, that I have her back in (light) work and she runs rings around my 6 year old! I view Cushings as just another symptom of old age, so it's nothing that you have done wrong.
She had very bad laminitis, so I am very careful with feed/grazing but apart from that her life is normal.

Heather
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lady tee
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Posted - 24 Jan 2008 :  10:49:43 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lady tee to your friends list Send lady tee a Private Message
Hi,Debs,sorry to hear about everything you are going through,if you ever wan't to talk im here for you. Take care TERESA.X
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saddlebred
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Posted - 26 Jan 2008 :  10:28:45 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add saddlebred to your friends list Send saddlebred a Private Message
Hi guys
Thank you all for your kind and reassuring words. Looking back on this post I realise that I have no reason to feel sorry for myself. I am lucky to have such lovely horses and none of these things are serious compared to what other people have had to put up with. I am in th middle of having to make 300 people redundant including myself so probably a bit "glass half full" at the moment

Anyway, the blood test results are back and things looking much rosier.

Jazz the youngster's muscle enzymes are very much improved and I should be able to start gentle work again next week. Unfortunately, working excessive hours in the week means that I am not able to ride little and often which is obviously what she needs.

Gini my little boys pony is still on box rest but is fine. Her test results were negative for EMS so just one of those things with the grass growing early I guess. Jacob is going to make a concerted effort to ride her when she gets better because she has been a pet for the last couple of years which is a terrible waste.

Unfortunately Fayre has got Cushings but she has never had laminitis so hopefully this will be kept under control with Pergolide. She is otherwise very fit and well and still enjoying her hacking round the Wyre Forest at 25 years of age.

I will get them all A1 and we will be hitting that show season come hook or by crook!
Debs

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lol
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Posted - 27 Jan 2008 :  11:02:06 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lol to your friends list Send lol a Private Message
Hi again

Just to say i'm really pleased you're feeling better- try and keep smiling as it sounds like you've got a lot to look forward to x

Best of luck with everything and I really hope all your horses keep improving- by the way at least with the cushings, now you know what you're dealing with you can start managing it and fingers crossed she'll live a long and happy life for years to come!

Keep us updated as it'd be nice to hear how they're getting on.

Laura xx

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Info Sponge
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Posted - 29 Jan 2008 :  9:04:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Info Sponge to your friends list Send Info Sponge a Private Message
Hi Debbie,

So sorry to hear you have hit a bad patch. It's strange how everything always seems to go wrong at once! However, I am a great believer that these things run in cycles and so you should be having better times ahead soon.

Meanwhile I am sure everyone on here will continue to be supportive as you have so kindly helped so many of us with our horse questions.

Keep your chin up


Best Regards


Chris
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saddlebred
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Posted - 31 Jan 2008 :  5:54:14 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add saddlebred to your friends list Send saddlebred a Private Message
Aaaah.. you are all so sweet. Thank you.

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saddlebred
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Posted - 10 Feb 2008 :  7:13:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add saddlebred to your friends list Send saddlebred a Private Message
Hi folks

Just a little update. Have managed to sit on Jazz again for the first time in 8 weeks following her Azoturia attack. She will end up finishing her breaking and schooling one day - hopefully in time for the show season. It would appear that it is viral so I am hoping it wont recur but going to take things very very slowly just in case.

Had a bit of a setback with Fayre's cushings. She appears to have had a strange reaction to the Pergolide resulting in large oedemas under her abdomen! I am told by my vet that the only known side effects to Pergolide are anorexia or depression so just my luck to find a new one!! Anyway she is very well in herself and I have stopped the medication so will have a re-think. Was thinking of trying Chaste Berry which I have read about for cushingoid horses. Anyone tried it before?

Gini is back to her normal lovely self so I am feeling full of the joys of spring again now. Have really enjoyed this beautiful weekend.
Debs

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Diane Latham
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Posted - 10 Feb 2008 :  8:13:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Diane Latham to your friends list Send Diane Latham a Private Message
Hi Debbie

Try CushX from Hilton Herbs. I believe they have had very good results. I have had a cushings mare on it since September. I have clipped her for the last two winters (end of August full clip and then December blanket clip)as her coat grows too thick and she cannot regulate her temperature and just overheats. Clipping and rugging turns her into a 'normal' horse. She has had a great winter out 24/7 in a 12 acre field and I await to see her summer coat with interest! I also changed her food in November 2006 to Primero Total which has also made a huge difference to her overall well being.

It's definitely worth a try!

I suggest you ring Hiltons Help Line.

Di
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Pixie
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Posted - 10 Feb 2008 :  8:26:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pixie to your friends list Send Pixie a Private Message
my horse has periactin for his cushings - i have been giving it to him for a number of years now obviously on veterinary prescription. talk to your vet about Periactin. I believe its a bit cheaper than pergolide. about 6p per tablet - my boy has 26 tablets every other day. there was quite a high loading dose but it was several years back now - i could look it out for you if you want it though. also this website http://www.laminitisclinic.org/Vitex.htm you might find useful - again talk to your vet. pm me if you need to.

edited to correct spelling errors


Edited by - Pixie on 10 Feb 2008 8:27:07 PM
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