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leezee26
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 Posted - 02 Sep 2007 : 3:06:44 PM
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Sorry need to let off steam!! I have a lovely 2 year old FellxDales filly at my yard, who I have looked after for over a year, when I first got her she was feral! She is the complete opposite now. The old boy that owns her has said she is mine if I want her, which of course I do but I already have 3 horses, so I have said she has a home for life here but if that special someone comes forward then I will let her go...Well that special someone or so I thought did come forward, all was well, I had excepted the fact she was going and then this woman called up last night saying she had decided not to have her as she was worried she might get Sweetitch!! She is showing no signs of Sweet itch but like all of the horses on my yard and all I know is getting bothered by the flies. She proceeded to say that because her mother was ill she would have to take off leaving her partner to look after them and she felt it wasnt fair to expect him to put fly spray etc on. She then said she had just got rid of one because of sweetitch, and to that I lost my temper! I said that if we all got rid of our horses because they went down with something then none of us would keep them!!! And if shes so damn lazy not to bother putting fly repellent on her other horse Im glad she doesnt want her! Im sorry to rant but Im just so cross, but on the other hand relieved as I really want Blossom to go to someone who will care for her, am I being unreasonable??? Leighx
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geegee
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England
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Posted - 02 Sep 2007 : 4:29:06 PM
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Hi Leigh,
Thank god she did waste your time, at least she showed her true colours before she took her home. Some people, eh? I know how frustrating it must be but at least you have another chance at finding her the "right" home.
p.s I used to have a little pony called Blossom. She was a real sweetie! |
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leezee26
Gold Member
England
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Posted - 02 Sep 2007 : 4:44:11 PM
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| Hi Lisa, your telling me! I rang my farrier and he told me that when he went out to her other horse, her partner told him to make sure he put the shoes on properly as she only has him shod twice a year! My farrier thought he was joking but its been nearly 5 months and he hasnt been back yet!! So I am pleased she hasnt gone to her, she deserves someone that really will care for her as she has sooo much love to give!! Lx |
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Gail
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Posted - 02 Sep 2007 : 7:42:26 PM
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Narrow escape from that one for Blossom. Poor other horse with shoes on for 5 months, you know if one of us did that the horse would be crippled and never right again.......why do these people get away with these things.
Mind boggles.
Gail x |
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Coral Wings
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England
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Posted - 02 Sep 2007 : 9:16:09 PM
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It beggars belief really!! Some people should not be allowed horses!!  |
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LYNDILOU
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Sep 2007 : 6:22:33 PM
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Sometimes it pays check homes thoroughly, and you found out this was not the right home,so time was not wasted put it all down to experience, I have been there done that and have several tee shirts to prove it |
   
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samsingh
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Wales
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 : 09:15:57 AM
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| no mater what you sell you alway's have timewasters and no it all's in an ideal world you could advertise an item and the perfect customer turns up...but we live in the real world...so get used to it...you all have a nice day |
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 : 2:39:05 PM
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| not all customers are time wasters some sellers are too. I drove 2 hours to view a horse which had a massive scab round its pastern (wire injury me thinks) which was puffy, hot and oozing. I then tell them that its not sound and then they say oh is it the leg with the scab. and then i drove back 2 hours. now why did they let me go all the way to view a horse that wasn't sound. aaaaaaggggghhhhhh. they knew full well it had a massive scab. So the next horse i ring up and ask about i shall actually say....... Are you sure this horse is sound as i am not an idiot and can tell when a horse is lame. I will then be considered aggressive. my friend has recently looked at 12 horses all lame. aaaaaaaggggghhhhhh - sorry about that........... rant over!!!! |
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leezee26
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England
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 : 8:58:00 PM
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| No I agree! I went with a client to look at a pony that again was 2 hours drive away, my client had kept in touch with the seller and told him of our estimated time of arrival. We got there 15 mins earlier than expected and guess what???...He had just shaken hands and sold it saying he was unsure whether we were still coming !!! What a joke, he didnt even apologise! lx |
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samsingh
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Wales
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Posted - 13 Sep 2007 : 08:25:38 AM
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| when we are selling a horse we always give priority to private sales anyone who say's they are bringing a so called expert we would rather they didn't bother coming...so we understand |
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Sep 2007 : 6:46:46 PM
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| Pengarvic may i ask you a question please. when you say you always give priorty to private sales and anyone who say's they are bringing a so called expert we would rather they didn't bother coming. what do you mean? i always take a friend with me either my teacher, or the yard manager or another friend. all of whom are better riders than i. i take them because when getting on new horses i am not very brave - due to an accident when trying a horse many moons ago - still not go over the trauma even if the injuries have gone away. anyway..... is it a pain when a private person arrives with A N Other to help. ie. to ride, as another set of eys and ears. please advise me if you can as do not want to be a nuisance to anyone. i am genuinely looking to buy a horse and do not want to be considered a time waster. please help if you can - any advice will be welcome. or perhaps i misunderstand you. in any event i will never go and look at a horse for the first time alone. but would welcome your views. thank you. |
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samsingh
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Wales
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Posted - 14 Sep 2007 : 08:37:53 AM
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| all i am saying is that i understand why the chap sold the horse from under the other lady, from experience a person who is coming to look at a horse if they have someone with them, it is very rare that will buy on the first visit, the need to discuss what they have seen etc. Also if a a so called expert is with a client is it not reasonable to think they have to justify themselves perhaps hi-lite little things which in real terms dont really matter. it is a rule of thumb, just a point of view people should not be so defensive, i was only putting the side of the seller |
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Sep 2007 : 11:04:22 AM
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| i didn't mean to come over defensive at all. I genuinely wanted to know what you thought and am grateful for the advice. i now completely understand where you are coming from. thank you. I have helped buy many horses in my time but actually have only ever bought one myself. this will be my second purchase ever and i'm 45 years old. I am very good at assessing horses on the floor myself but as i've said above am nervous of getting on strange horses and that is why i always take a "good jockey" with me. if anyone else has any advice it will be gratefully received. thanks again guys. |
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samsingh
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Wales
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Posted - 14 Sep 2007 : 11:23:16 AM
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| i was talking general i am sorry if you got the wrong end of the stick....probally my fault....hope you get your next horse and it meets up with all you expectations...good luck |
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leezee26
Gold Member
England
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Posted - 14 Sep 2007 : 11:26:55 AM
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| I am struggling to understand you Pengarvic!! My client is a good friend of mine and an elderly gentleman. He was the one dealing with the seller and didnt even mention me, I was his driver more than anything else, I say client as he is a client of mine for dentistry! He had agreed to view this horse etc etc and as I said the guy had already sold it, and Im sorry that was just BAD manners, as he knew we were coming and if the horse had have been right my client/friend would have bought it on the spot! I encourage poeple to bring someone along if they are viewing a horse I have for sale, whether it be an expert or a friend and I can only wonder from your comments why you would feel so threatened by an expert coming along???? Pixie, what are you looking for? Lx |
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samsingh
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Wales
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Posted - 14 Sep 2007 : 11:38:08 AM
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| interesting ....we do it for a living and do not feel threatened in any way, all i was doing was putting a point of view, never said it would suit everyone, how many horses have you bought, a dentist i shudder . you have a nice day |
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leezee26
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England
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Posted - 14 Sep 2007 : 12:07:05 PM
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| Each to their own, I was responding to your point of view, please do not judge me, you do not know me and I dont know you.... I will not get into a slanging match for sharing my opinion. Im glad you are successful at selling horses, the point of this forum is to get things across in a civil manner, please dont write people off who want to view a horse with someone else, surely thats their perogative?? Its a big step and usually involves a lot of money, and there are too many cowboys out there.I agree sometimes there are some 'power freaks' out there who like to find fault but then again thats their reason for being there.Leighx |
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alix liddle
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England
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Posted - 14 Sep 2007 : 10:46:21 PM
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| When I was looking for a horse, I was not interested in viewing it if there was any one else who was also viewing it at the time. This could be naive of me, but just like when buying a house, you need to look at it more than once and think about it and not be pressurised into buying unless you are sure it feels right. It is really bad manners to let someone drive over to see a horse that you have just sold. The least the vendor could do is ring you and say they have sold it. |
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Pixie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Sep 2007 : 1:48:52 PM
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| Thanks for the info Pengarvic. Leezee26 i am looking for an Arab 6-10 yrs. i would look at something younger providing it had a good temperament and had been backed and broken. also i would look at a part-bred. ideally a gelding but don't have any hang-ups about mares. i personally feel i am gelding material but hey i'll live and learn. i would prefer russian/polish/crabbet as think i might look a bit heavy on a fine Egyptian but again i'm willing to learn. 14.2 to 15.2 would be nice. not mad keen on buying a barrell on legs as have joint problems myself. my current boy is 28 and very fit considering and quite leggy and slim. another one of him would do me just fine. would prefer not to have such a strong horse next time round but i've managed my lad for 15 or so years and could do it again. any horse i buy will have a home for life - providing nothing in life rears up and bites my a*s and things change dramatically. just want to do some low level dressage although i don't currently compete with my boy - everyone on my yard is amazed as just what he can do when they realise he raced for most of his life before i got him. bless! As you can hear from this post he is my Precious and i make no apologies for that. Any ideas would be gratefully received. don't really want to drive from one end of the country to the other. I am in Hertfordshire. And frankly i am in no rush. Perhapsy i may have to kiss a lot of frogs to find my next prince. And Alix Liddle - i agree with you when you say you need to look at a horse more than once and think about it and not be pressurised. i intend to do just that. however if in the meantime people think i am a timewaster then i guess i will have to just live with that. like i've said before - i fully intend to buy a horse, but not just any ole horse - it has to be the right one as i intend to keep it for life. if i buy the wrong horse i will have to sell it and do not wish to be party to pushing a horse around from pillar to post. sorry all of that was a bit long winded. any help gratefully received. thanks for reading this post. |
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pat ww
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Posted - 15 Sep 2007 : 3:00:01 PM
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I think I am the anti-seller! If I have had to sell, as I did when I had a really bad spell with my back and no help, potential buyers were told the horses are out in the field and thats how you'll see them! The horse was pointed out to them and they were given a head-collar. I Knew my horses, so watching from a slight distance I could 'vet' potential buyers. I knew one buyer was right when the OH led a filly that had only been walked previously and got a lovely trot out of her. Potential buyers spent about half an hour getting to know the 'one'.
Each time first to see (a particular horse) did buy, nice well informed Arab homes. |
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leezee26
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England
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Posted - 15 Sep 2007 : 3:58:18 PM
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| Its beyond me to think that anyone looking at spending a few thousand on a horse would not want to think about and take someone along too but there you go, Pengarvic and I will agree to disagree! As Alix Liddle said it was bad manners for that chap not to even phone! If I go to look at a horse and the seller has said what is what, such as Pat ww, then you go knowing that the horses are in the field then thats fine but on the other if you go to look at a horse that you have been told is competition fit and you arrive to see it filed fit or unsound then thats when it grates! Pixie, I will put a note in my diary and if anything comes up I will do am FAO post for you, but if not I do hope you find something as special as you lovely sounding boy!! Leighxx |
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Pixie
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Posted - 16 Sep 2007 : 10:38:20 AM
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| Thanks Leigh that is very kind of you. I did fail to mention that the lame horse i went to look at had been allowed to roll in the sand school and they thought they had cleaned him up. when i asked for a brush they looked at me as if i'd grown two heads. he was filthy. i was also told that he was a complete confidence giver (which didn't make any difference to me) but he was really anxious and scared. poor little thing. not as described at all. and i certainly wasn't told he was lame. hey ho you live and learn. |
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alix liddle
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England
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Posted - 16 Sep 2007 : 10:06:53 PM
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Me again. I looked at two horses before I bought my mare. The first owner would not let me try and load it, wouldn't let me take it on a busy road ( but swore it was fine in traffic and must load because she had a photo of it tied to a trailer!!!!) I decided not to go back because the woman was annoying me even if she was honest. She had also just moved it to a new yard and wanted the 5 stage vetting to happen after 4 0'clock in February!!!. She got very humpy when I cancelled the second viewing and swore that she was not hiding anything, but she wouldn't drop a single penny and got my goat.
The owner of the second horse I looked at let me do anything I asked, and when the horse failed the vet due to slight lameness I had her on a month's trial, got her revetted and she passed. In all I viewed her 3 times in about 4 days and I felt she was right for me and I tried her out at different times and in diefferent places and because the owner was not hiding anything. There are nice genuine sellers out there. |
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alix liddle
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Posted - 16 Sep 2007 : 10:08:35 PM
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Me again. I looked at two horses before I bought my mare. The first owner would not let me try and load it, wouldn't let me take it on a busy road ( but swore it was fine in traffic and must load because she had a photo of it tied to a trailer!!!!) I decided not to go back because the woman was annoying me even if she was honest. She had also just moved it to a new yard and wanted the 5 stage vetting to happen after 4 0'clock in February!!!. She got very humpy when I cancelled the second viewing and swore that she was not hiding anything, but she wouldn't drop a single penny and got my goat.
The owner of the second horse I looked at let me do anything I asked, and when the horse failed the vet due to slight lameness I had her on a month's trial, got her revetted and she passed. In all I viewed her 3 times in about 4 days and I felt she was right for me and I tried her out at different times and in diefferent places and because the owner was not hiding anything. There are nice genuine sellers out there. |
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Pixie
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Posted - 17 Sep 2007 : 09:05:24 AM
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| Yes voting with your feet (whilst still having your money in your back pocket) sounds like a good idea if the horse is not what you're after, sounds good to me. |
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leezee26
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England
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Posted - 17 Sep 2007 : 09:29:34 AM
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| Pixie, some clients of mine have just emailed me to say they have recently imported some horses, one of which is a 4 yr old reg Anglo, standing 16hh, email if you would like me to forward their email. leigh.shayle@btinternet.com Leighx |
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