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herts_babeuk
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 :  5:04:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit herts_babeuk's Homepage Bookmark this topic Add herts_babeuk to your friends list Send herts_babeuk a Private Message
Hi i have recently been given Ross Estara (Esta-Espashan x Rosseeta) and i understand that she has had 4 foals previously.

I have been able to find out that one is called Brieff Encounter and one is called Angelica Bint Ben Rajah

i was wondering if anyone has any information or pictures of any of Ross Estara's foals.

Also, I am new to AL and would like to know how u add pictures to the postings! lol

manys thanks lauren
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Sadika
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 :  7:07:00 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sadika to your friends list Send Sadika a Private Message
The Arnold's own Brieff - Nick (Blackbridge Arabians - S Wales) posts on here and I'm sure he'll find this thread. Andrea Taylor (Tucana Arabians - Essex)bred and owns Angelica.

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donna72_uk
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Posted - 02 Sep 2007 :  7:42:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add donna72_uk to your friends list Send donna72_uk a Private Message
Hi Lauren just saw this as i have just got back from hols I have got Estar Brieff Encounters full brother.The other one your looking for is Estoy im not sure where he is now but im sure he was for sale last year some time.I would love to see a pic of Ross Estara as i have only seen a small one which wasnt that clear.Also Stevie Phillips comes on here who bred her and im sure she would love to hear from youEstar is the bay in my signature

Donna
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herts_babeuk
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Posted - 02 Sep 2007 :  10:30:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit herts_babeuk's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add herts_babeuk to your friends list Send herts_babeuk a Private Message
hi donna -i'm a little confused - so you have another one of Estara's foals? but not breiff encounter, not Estoy and not Angelica Bint Ben Rejah? whats your gelding/colt called? how old is he? is he the bay on your detail page? sorry i'm quite new to all of this so am jst getting the hang of it.

i have just been given estara from charlotte roberts so havent taken any pics of her yet but i will and try my best to work out now to put them on here as quickly as i can!
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pleasures
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Posted - 03 Sep 2007 :  07:14:25 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pleasures to your friends list Send pleasures a Private Message
Hi LAuren
If you go onto allbreeds she is there and there are two faols mentioned perhaps that will help
Sue
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herts_babeuk
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Posted - 03 Sep 2007 :  11:31:49 AM  Show Profile  Visit herts_babeuk's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add herts_babeuk to your friends list Send herts_babeuk a Private Message
hi Sue - what is the website address for all breeds?
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donna72_uk
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Posted - 03 Sep 2007 :  3:18:42 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add donna72_uk to your friends list Send donna72_uk a Private Message
Hi Lauren my gelding is called EstarHes the bay in my signature

Donna
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pleasures
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Posted - 03 Sep 2007 :  3:55:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pleasures to your friends list Send pleasures a Private Message
Sorry Lauren
Just come back from shopping. www.allbreeds.com
just type in her name you will get progeny and photos and her pedigree if you want more you will have to join. I think that the case.
Sue
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Nick
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Posted - 03 Sep 2007 :  7:47:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nick to your friends list Send Nick a Private Message
Hi Lauren we do indeed own Breiff Encounter, email me if want ao
oraelninio@aol.com
Nick,Mair and Abi Blackbridge Arabians
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Barabia
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Posted - 04 Sep 2007 :  12:21:05 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Hi Lauren, here is the link to her pedigree: http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ross+estara

I will fill in some missing info some day.. color, breeder etc.
Good luck with your mare!

Bia

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donna72_uk
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Posted - 04 Sep 2007 :  7:30:14 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add donna72_uk to your friends list Send donna72_uk a Private Message
Hi Lauren i forgot to add that Estar is 6 so im not sure if he is the oldest or not

Donna
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Barabia
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Posted - 04 Sep 2007 :  7:47:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Hi Donna, your boy is no. 2.

Arabian Horse Progeny for ROSS ESTARA
2 records found.
Name Number Foaled Gender Color Sire

BRIEFF ENCOUNTER AHSB*32350 1999 Mare Grey FFATAL ATTRACTION
ESTAR AHSB*32357 2001 Stallion Bay FFATAL ATTRACTION

The other two is not listed in the AHR Datasource yet. In Allbreed is a fifth foal, ES SHAILIIN ESPASHAN ESTARA, colt born 2006.! Is that right??

Bia

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herts_babeuk
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Posted - 04 Sep 2007 :  8:20:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit herts_babeuk's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add herts_babeuk to your friends list Send herts_babeuk a Private Message
i was told that she had four foals and i have worked this out to be;

1. Brieff encounter
2. Angelica Bint ben Rajah
3. Estoy
4. Estar

i will have to ask Charlotte about last years foal!
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Barabia
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Posted - 04 Sep 2007 :  9:18:18 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
Angelica Bint Ben Rajah (by Aja Ben Rajah) is born in 2004, so she cant be no.2! I found her in the results for HoCoN Open Arab C Show 2006 where she came fifth in the class for 2y fillies.

Bia


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herts_babeuk
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Posted - 05 Sep 2007 :  08:56:48 AM  Show Profile  Visit herts_babeuk's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add herts_babeuk to your friends list Send herts_babeuk a Private Message
i didnt put the list in age order, as i dont known fully the ages of them all!
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 05 Sep 2007 :  10:47:19 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message

Anyone complete the breeding for Estoy, please the rest are now on all breeds.

Sue

Edited by - Rozy Rider on 05 Sep 2007 11:03:49 AM
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herts_babeuk
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Posted - 05 Sep 2007 :  12:43:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit herts_babeuk's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add herts_babeuk to your friends list Send herts_babeuk a Private Message
so far on all breeds, only Estar and Es Shailiin Espashan Estara are on there as ross estara's progeny
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 05 Sep 2007 :  12:54:07 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
The others are added,It takes about 48hrs to get them up listed, the Estar 2001, needs adding with his sire & year of birth, if you hav'nt got it..best to ask Bia, or Bride to look in the stud book and come back..so look in a day or tow and they will be there.

There does seem to be a shortage of up to date pictures,anyone who has photos they can go onto the allbreeds..the little red star identifies with pic and if you click left column and go to photos, it will show all those loaded.
Sue

Sue

Edited by - Rozy Rider on 05 Sep 2007 12:57:30 PM
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herts_babeuk
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Posted - 05 Sep 2007 :  1:18:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit herts_babeuk's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add herts_babeuk to your friends list Send herts_babeuk a Private Message
do you have to be a member to add pictures to all breeds?
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donna72_uk
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Posted - 05 Sep 2007 :  1:28:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add donna72_uk to your friends list Send donna72_uk a Private Message
Hi i added Estar on allbreeds and im not sure what you mean as it shows his sire to be FFATAL ATTRACTION and his year of birth 2001 so have i done something wrong somewhere lol
Also thanks Bia for finding that info for me as i didnt know the ages of them all
All i would like to know now is what he isas someone said hes got egyption and spanish in him but im still not sure so Bia if you have got time could you work it out for me pleaseeeeeeee as i know your an expert in this sought of thing

Donna
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Barabia
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Posted - 05 Sep 2007 :  8:40:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Barabia to your friends list Send Barabia a Private Message
I'll try to do my best Donna, but I'm no expert in that kind of stuff! Crabbet percentage is much, much easier to work out!

Be back soon...
Bia

PS, Sue.. I have no studbooks so I can't find the breeding for Estoy, sorry!


Edited by - Barabia on 05 Sep 2007 8:46:02 PM
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 05 Sep 2007 :  11:07:32 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message
No you don't. anyone can add them.

Thanks Bia, will have to ask Mandy to have a look for Estoy... Sue

Sue

Edited by - Rozy Rider on 05 Sep 2007 11:12:28 PM
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Stevie
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Posted - 06 Sep 2007 :  07:55:23 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stevie to your friends list Send Stevie a Private Message
Hi
Donna has just told me about this,sorry I'm busy packing for our return home end of the month.
I breed Ross Estara,and 3 of her foals,Estoy is by Ansata El Seleem,not sure but there may be 2 more,
Andrea has one,she would know.
Her Breeding is mostly Egyptian,Babson Egyptain,Spanish,Polish.with a splash
of English,and USA,so very nice!!!!!I had 4 generations

How is Estara?bless her,sounds as if she has been past around abit?
For a breeder its sad.....when you sell them ""to a home that will keep them for life""Don't give her way again! She can come HOME
Stevie x

Edited by - Stevie on 06 Sep 2007 5:22:04 PM
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Posted - 06 Sep 2007 :  07:57:34 AM  Show Profile  Send pat day an AOL message  Click to see pat day's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add pat day to your friends list Send pat day a Private Message
2004 Angelica Bint Ben Raja by Ben Raja
2002 Estoy by Ansata El salaam
2001 Estar by Ffatal
1999 Breiffe Encounter by Ffatal

Taken from the stud books


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herts_babeuk
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Posted - 06 Sep 2007 :  10:17:05 AM  Show Profile  Visit herts_babeuk's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add herts_babeuk to your friends list Send herts_babeuk a Private Message
Estara is happy in a field full of grass with 3 other mares and an arab stallion who is scared of her! lol

I'm not sure where or who she has been with. i was looking for a mare to use on loan to breed a foal, charlotte roberts said i could loan estara and after a few months, Charlotte said i could keep her as she hasnt got the time or the space for her.

She wasnt that friendly at first but has started to soften a little - with help from a few carrots of course!

I am trying to find a stallion to put her to next year (as my stallion is too much of a wimp and cant be bothered to cover her) but am finding that the nice ones are either too far away from Hertfordshire or are charging £1,000 for covering! can anyone recommend any nice stallions that arent too expensive?
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Stevie
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Posted - 06 Sep 2007 :  3:56:54 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stevie to your friends list Send Stevie a Private Message
The thing you must ask your self is....wot do I want a foal to for??
Are you breeding one to keep!!,ride?? show?? have fun with?
Are you going to sell it?
In which case is it worth the bother?
With the sale prices as they are?and poeple giving horses away.

Bear in mind with Stallions...you get wot you pay for.

Estara was alway's a one person horse.. Always stabled at night.May be she needs more contact with you.????give her time ,she is a sweet heart
Stevie x
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