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hannah28
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 Posted - 13 Aug 2007 : 9:08:45 PM
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Can anyone with a knowledge of bloodlines give me an insight into this colts pedigree.
He is by Valerio ibn Eternity out of Prahmucha NL.
I dont know much of his dams pedigree, i think she may be by Kupiec(?)
How do i work out the % of egyptian/polish/russian this colt has?
Many thanks in advance!
Han x
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emma
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Posted - 14 Aug 2007 : 09:58:41 AM
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Hi Hannah
Prahmucha, grey mare 1994, bred by M A Van Den Berg De Hoog of the Netherlands.
Sire- Kupiec (Probat x Kura)
Dam- Penelope HT (Pentagon x Padan)
From my quick glance she is a straight Russian mare.
Volcanos sire was of course shown in Europe, in fact think it was the year you came to Aachen with us. Think he was shown by ETC. Think he was the one that there was all that talk about having some sort of throat prob/ op, not a cleft palate but something or the other, i cant for the life of me remember what it was but remember a statement from the ETC saying it wasnt hereditary or something like that. |
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hannah28
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Posted - 14 Aug 2007 : 8:53:19 PM
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Hi emma,
Thanks for the info on Volcano's dam,
So i guess that makes him half egyptian/half russian.
Sorry to be a bit dim, but who/what is ETC? I'm not so clued up on European showing
Was the throat problem with Valerio ibn Eternity serious?
I have heard nothing of this and would be grateful for a bit more info on this, as if i decide to purchase this colt, he would be used as a breeding stallion, and anything that could possibly impact on that would need further investigation.
Thanks!
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emma
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Posted - 15 Aug 2007 : 10:37:57 AM
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Hi Hannah
I honestly cant remember the problem or even if it was him or another Eternity colt! The ETC is the European Training Centre, Philippe Hossay and Johanna Ulstrom ( excuse the spelling errors!)You may find details of it on the other website (SE.com )if you search. I dont think it was a hereditary thing and it didnt stop the colt from winning. |
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hannah28
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Posted - 15 Aug 2007 : 5:02:05 PM
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Thanks for that Emma, i will check out the other website!
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emma
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Posted - 29 Aug 2007 : 12:49:54 PM
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| its just come to me i think the query over the throat thing was with nijem ibn eternity |
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hannah28
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Posted - 29 Aug 2007 : 10:29:06 PM
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Lol! its funny when you just suddenly remember something thats eluded you for a while! Thanks very much Emma.
I decided not to buy the colt after all, so im still on the lookout for the perfect stallion.
Thanks again!
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Jutta
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Posted - 05 Sep 2007 : 10:26:06 PM
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Hi Hannah,
if your looking for another Valerio colt, I have one for sale. He's out of a Mosalli daughter. If you like to know more just send me an email at juttakools@scarlet.be |
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hannah28
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Posted - 05 Sep 2007 : 10:45:59 PM
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Hiya Jutta,
I'm not looking for a Valerio colt imparticular, just any top quality colt, regardless of sire/dam!
Do you have details of your colt? My e-mail is forever on the blink, but if u like you can PM me here, or just post the details in this thread.
Love to hear more about him!
Best Wishes.
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Jutta
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Posted - 06 Sep 2007 : 9:01:48 PM
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Hi Hannah,
here's a picture of our colt, he's called Ka'im.
So his sire is Valerio Ibn Eternity. His dam is Bess-Diyah, she's by Mosalli out of La Shaklero by El Shaklan.
He's got lots of attitude and excellent movements.
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Jutta
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hannah28
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Posted - 06 Sep 2007 : 9:25:55 PM
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Hiya Jutta,
Thanks for posting a piccy of your colt. He's lovely!
How old is he now?
Why are you selling if you don't mind me asking.
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Jutta
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Posted - 06 Sep 2007 : 9:36:41 PM
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Ka'im is 3months old now.
I have to sell him because I'm keeping my yearling colt and I don't have the space to keep any more colts. |
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hannah28
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Posted - 06 Sep 2007 : 9:55:31 PM
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It must be awful having to decide which to keep! He is a beautiful colt, im guessing he will be grey like his sire and dam (very nice mare by the way!).
I've been looking for a colt/stallion for about 6 months now, and its so difficult trying to decide between all the various bloodlines and types.
My preference is for straight egyptian, although i do like polish and russian lines too. I have a limited budget of £30,000 for a top quality horse, and am not adverse to importing, but would obviously like to find something closer to home.
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Jutta
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Posted - 08 Sep 2007 : 8:23:21 PM
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yes it is so hard to decide. If I had the space I'd keep them all 
Ka'im will indeed be grey like his parents, he's almost completely grey already. Here are some new pictures of him I took today.
and here's his mother again
Good luck in finding your perfect colt. I wouldn't know how to choose either with all those different bloodlines. |
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Lila
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Posted - 09 Sep 2007 : 4:04:50 PM
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Hannah, straight egyptian, does that include babson for you, if so i know a lovely colt for sale, grey, yearling. Please send me an email if you want more info MussadArabians@tele2.nl
Monique |
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Edited by - Lila on 09 Sep 2007 4:05:32 PM |
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pleasures
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Posted - 09 Sep 2007 : 4:13:09 PM
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HANNAH 28
I have seen colt by Magnum Psyche for sale on another site for £12.000 out of Eternal Lace i cant give details here but if you mail me privately I can tell you where to find him. His first foal crop apparently have all sold. Dont know anything about the horse personally just thought I would pass the info on
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emma
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Posted - 11 Sep 2007 : 08:36:03 AM
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Wow Hannah a limited budget of £30,000 i thought you had gone back to college perhaps you can tell me your secret so im not a broke student anymore!
What do you plan to do with your colt when you get one? How is Kordi is he still entire? Do you have any other horses?
Best wishes Emma |
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hannah28
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Posted - 11 Sep 2007 : 8:02:36 PM
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Thanks for your replies! I would definately be interested in more details of the Babson colt Monique. Likewise the Magnum Psyche Colt, although not too keen on chestnut (if indeed he is!).
I'm afraid i'm very difficult to please when it comes to buying horses! lol!
Emma, i think you have me confused with another Hannah!
Don't own any horses at the mo, last one was a few years back, i've had a bit of time off horse-ownership due to an injury, which is luckily now mended and am ready to get back in the saddle, so to speak
I'm looking for a stallion that i can show in-hand, that will eventually become my main riding horse.
I'm relocating early next year and will hopefully have my own land, so getting a colt/stallion to begin a small breeding herd is my main ambition.
I am looking for something really, really special, but obviously dont have mega bucks to spend, just some hard-earned savings!
If anyone else knows of anything that might be suitable, please dont hesitate to post on here or PM me.
Thanks!
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pleasures
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 : 09:39:21 AM
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hannah 28
The Magnum Psyche stallion is bay so if you mail me I will tell you where to find him
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emma
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 : 09:59:20 AM
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Hi Hannah
My mistake the horse in your picture made me think you were a different Hannah. Good luck in your search, i guess you really need to decide if SE is really what you want to breed once you have your herd. |
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hannah28
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 : 10:44:58 AM
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Sue, i've emailed you
Emma, its no probs! The horse in the Picture is HS Wandal (Wojslaw/Wioletta) a Polish gent that im trying to trace.
I owned him 2000/2001, but unfortunately, due to a change in circumstance i had to ask that Halsdon take him back. Cant seem to find out where hes been since though! |
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pleasures
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 : 1:23:51 PM
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Hi Hannah
I have mailed you the info that you wanted
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hannah28
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 : 9:59:45 PM
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Got your email thanks Sue! Unfortunately hes way too big for me, at 16.2hh, i think i'd be severely overhorsed (im only 5'1!!).
Bearing in mind that this colt/stallion is to become my main riding horse, i have to think of his size in relation to mine!
Both my boys that i used to own were 15.3hh, one a Crusader son who stood very upright and always seemed taller than he was!
I think 15.3hh is definately gonna be my limit
Thanks for searching him out though!
Keep them coming peeps, i know the ideal horse must be out there somewhere.
Oh and good luck with your prospective mare Sue, hope all goes well on Friday!
Best Wishes
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pleasures
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Posted - 13 Sep 2007 : 08:53:22 AM
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Wow Hannah
Thats big way too big for my liking. Never mind keep looking. Is there nothing on this site for you.?
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Lila
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Posted - 13 Sep 2007 : 10:05:59 AM
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Hannah please email me and I will send you pictures and his breeding, uh I can put that here. He is out of Canasta Faysara, (Meranti Fa Asar US x Bint Fay Amy US)
Meranti Fa Asar (Fa Asar x El Dahma Halima)
Bint Fay Amy (Mahrouf x Fay Amy) Fay Amy is by Ibn Fa- Serr ( Fa-Serr x Fa Deene) Aroufina ( Fabah x Roufina)
His sire is Rea Nisrs Alibi.
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Edited by - Lila on 13 Sep 2007 10:07:47 AM |
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