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Nut
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Posted - 24 Apr 2007 :  3:02:05 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Nut's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this topic Add Nut to your friends list Send Nut a Private Message
Louis had his jabs yesterday, within an hour and a half he was disorientated and uncoordinated, vet called and told me to monitor for an hour, he then displayed signs of colic within about 45mins, I called again and asked them to come out and was told the on call vet would call me back (its nearly 7pm by now). They took about 20 mins tp phone only to tell me they had other emergenies and i should look in the yellow pages for another vetThey also said the colic and illness sounded unconnected and I could not beleive it How can he get so sick in 90 minutes and its unrelated. By 8 30pm I got hold of another vet from a practice i had never used before, along with OH armed with a credit card as i had no idea how you settle up with a practice you arent registered with. He treated the colic but agreed it was a secondary affect of a reaction to the jab. We monitered and mild colic is all better but this morning i noticed he hadnt eaten or drunk and we put him in the sick pen to see how he was moving and within minutes it was evident he couldnt move his neck and was only walking in one direction, couldnt eat or drink as he cant put neck downSo had a third vet, the head of the practice i've used since i was 14 and he agrees its all related to the jab, colic is secondary and hes over it now but his neck is bad as most likely the needle went into the muscle in error So poor louis has every thing mounted up high now and we have to just monitor him for a few days and keep him on the anti imflamatories...he really does look poorly Has anyone else had experience of this...

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Roseanne
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Posted - 24 Apr 2007 :  3:28:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roseanne to your friends list Send Roseanne a Private Message
Nut there was something on this reaction to jabs perhaps on the Panel section. I remember reading it. Could you do a search perhaps?
I think several people reported similar and now don't give certain jabs.

Roseanne
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sazzlepants71
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Posted - 24 Apr 2007 :  3:59:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sazzlepants71 to your friends list Send sazzlepants71 a Private Message
omg nadia, i am sorry to read thisthinking of you and little one ,will call when i finish wrk tonight xxx

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slinky
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Posted - 24 Apr 2007 :  4:04:54 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add slinky to your friends list Send slinky a Private Message
Poor pony! I hope he recovers quickly!

I remember a friend on mine saying her mane had a virus and showed similar symptoms to what yours has had so I wonder if hers was related to having the vacinnation!

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nicolanapper
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Posted - 24 Apr 2007 :  6:07:22 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nicolanapper to your friends list Send nicolanapper a Private Message
Nadia, one of ours always has a bad reaction (he is 8 now) and his neck stiffens right up, he drools and his head is between his knees, and he refuses to eat anything. The vet knows of his reactions and now we jab him in the bum. Neck is no good, as he stiffens up too much, between front legs (chest) his legs stiffen up. He was best of in the bum. Still he has to remain in for 48 hours and we now give him bute as soon as he has had his jab.
Have to say it was appauling the way your vets treated you and your poor horse. Hope your horse shows improvement soon.
Nicky
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tamila
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Posted - 24 Apr 2007 :  6:21:54 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tamila to your friends list Send tamila a Private Message
Hi Nadia, Do not worry my stallion (Akram) did this once and frightened me. He could not move his neck so I had to put his feed on the fence and water in a hang over feed bin. When I shut him in he panicked so also have to hand hay in a net. He slowly recovered over 3 days and it has never happened again. I did ring the vet and he said it was probably a reaction but to ring if it became worse.

I also had a filly who went totally stiff behind and could not move after her second tetanus jab. We had to try and keep her moving. The vet had given her tetanus because she had cut herself and then 24 hrs later gave her the flu/tet. I was very scared but she survived. I have since heard of this happening to other people.

Thinking of you and Louis.


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sub
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Posted - 24 Apr 2007 :  6:47:09 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sub to your friends list Send sub a Private Message
The neck is definately a reaction to the tetanus injection.

Ask the vet to jab in the bum next time round and you shouldn't have any problems with the stifness. These reactions are more common than you think.

The colic could have been stress induced - hopefully it won't happen again.

Louis will be fine by thursday - it takes a few days for the vaccine to work away from the site on injection.

Can you believe that I react to my tetanus jabs too - Dr thinks it's funny when I ask to have it in my bum!!

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donna72_uk
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Posted - 24 Apr 2007 :  6:53:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add donna72_uk to your friends list Send donna72_uk a Private Message
Poor Louis
Hope he recovers quickly!

Donna
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madmare
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Posted - 24 Apr 2007 :  8:19:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add madmare to your friends list
I damn near lost crystal througha bad reaction to Prevac Pro flu and tetanus vaccine....within seconds of having the jab..she was struggling to breathe, and she was weaving all over her stable. Luckily, the vet was treating anotherhorse..and came running back ther...and stuffed her full of adrenaline, to take down the swelling..turns out she is allergic to just this brand..she can have others, but not Prevac.

Hope your boy recovers quickly! hugs for him and you!
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Stevie
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Posted - 24 Apr 2007 :  9:17:52 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stevie to your friends list Send Stevie a Private Message
My Mare is the same....since she was a yearling she has her jab in her chest,( after suffering with the stiff neck)...but she also has to have bute for 3days after,because she's all achie
Don't know wot she'd be like if she had to have the jabs 6 monthly??
Stevie x
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annas
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Posted - 24 Apr 2007 :  9:47:34 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add annas to your friends list Send annas a Private Message
You poor things...you must have been worried stiff and he well...was stiff! I had exactly the same thing happen a few years ago with my mare. The YO didn't contact me and I heard 24 hrs later......they had jab'd her with her FLU/Tet and she had a massive allergic reaction and had 2 vets with her for 12 hours trying to stabilise her. I never got to the bottom of what happened but the YO said she was off her food after the jab and the next day she was as stiff as a board as you describe, then apparantly she went downhill. The vets sorted her out and I subsequently received a letter from the drug manufacturer apologising profusely, which I found quite un-nerving!

She has Equip/IT now with no obvious problems.

Strangely my eldest cat had a HUGE reaction to her flu vaccination and I nearly lost her too.

I have never had any vaccinations apart from tetanus as my father wouldn't let me, he always said 'they're more likely to kill you than anything you might catch'....I think he may have been right!
So don't worry he will be fine in a couple of days...blooming scary though.
Hugs
Anna
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katherineepea
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Posted - 24 Apr 2007 :  9:48:48 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add katherineepea to your friends list Send katherineepea a Private Message
a horse on my old yard had the neck problems after a jab but the vet said to put all his buckets where it could be reached and keep him in till it goes as if you turn out a horse that cant physically graze it stresses them out. he was fine in a couple of days but wasnt anything as bad as yours sounded as he was eating and drinking fine once he could reach it.
hope he gets well soon!!
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Nut
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Posted - 25 Apr 2007 :  09:10:16 AM  Show Profile  Click to see Nut's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add Nut to your friends list Send Nut a Private Message
Morning, well pleased to report hes almost back to normal, thanks for the reassurance that this is more common than I thought. By this morning he could graze and reach water on the floor rather than in the buckets on the wall so we've turned him out...something to watch out for in the future and never to have him injected in the neck again. Not looking forward to the vet bill now though but just happy he's better x

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Kash
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Posted - 25 Apr 2007 :  09:21:31 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kash to your friends list Send Kash a Private Message
Hi Nadia,

Glad to hear Louis is recovering now and hope he gets back to himself soon.

Lauren x

 
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Treasure
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Posted - 25 Apr 2007 :  09:29:43 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Treasure to your friends list Send Treasure a Private Message
Originally posted by annas

I have never had any vaccinations apart from tetanus as my father wouldn't let me, he always said 'they're more likely to kill you than anything you might catch'....I think he may have been right!
So don't worry he will be fine in a couple of days...blooming scary though.

Well I can't have tetanus vaccination as I had a very odd reaction some years ago, tunnel vision, disorientation, sweating hot and cold etc. I thought it was just the needle as I dread injections but docs won't let me have them because of the tetanus toxin. When you think we're supposed to have them because of being round horses ....
So maybe it's the same with horses - scary as we wouldn't know till it happens. I worry as my filly has recently had her first and now due for her second . She was OK first time round though . I've certainly seen horses get still in their neck afterwards.

Carolyn

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annas
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Posted - 25 Apr 2007 :  11:24:14 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add annas to your friends list Send annas a Private Message
Glad to hear that he's improving!

Treasure, just so you know, forewarned is forarmed and all that, it's generally the second time that you are exposed to something that there is an allergic reaction. As with both my cat and horse it was the second dose of the drug that caused the obvious problems (they may have gone un-noticed the first time, as they tend to be much less dramatic).

I just found this article if your interested.

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/horse-health/2006/November/07/Recognize-allergic-reactions.aspx
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Treasure
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Posted - 25 Apr 2007 :  11:51:00 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Treasure to your friends list Send Treasure a Private Message
This is really tricky as the threat of tetanus is always there for animals (and humans of course) and I think most of us would want to stop the risk of our horses contracting it as it's a horrible disease. But I know people who never vaccinate their animals and they remain perfectly healthy all their lives - for example most of my cats (I have 6 ) have their annual boosters but my oldest is nearly 19 and hasn't had a vaccination since she was 1 year old! All my others have all the jabs including feline leukaemia but the old lady has survived all possible diseases!
Most of our horses could do the same but, as I say, the risk particularly of tetanus is a real worry. And of course if horses travel and go to events they mostly have to have been vaccinated.
Anna that article is useful, but quite scary too.

Carolyn

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