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Coloured_Arabs
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Posted - 20 Apr 2007 :  07:54:10 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Coloured_Arabs to your friends list Send Coloured_Arabs a Private Message
I went to see my little section B mare (who resembles a mini arabian!) who was on loan to a very experienced home, who were friends of the family. This mare was never the easiset pony to deal with (she did not have the best start in life so I bought her out of sympathy)but I felt happy that she was in a good home. In the 9 months she was there they rang me up every month so say how she was and I went to see and she looked very well. However this week I went to see her being ridden and was horrified. They had put a gag in my snaffle mounthed pony and using the most severe setting. The girl got on the pony and hit her and jabbed her in the mouth and tried to go straight into trot with her, naturally the pony napped and threatended to rear so she hit and jabbed again - at which point as I told the girl to get off (she ran off crying but I have to say I did not care, so mean of me, but I was so upset) anyway I got on her and she was very tense but soon settled (in a snaffle bit I have to add) so I now have her back.

Just a warning to everyone that even if you KNOW the people who have your horse still be very wary!

Unfortuantely I have had to cut down on my horses this year due to having the sell the farm (very upsetting) - so really I need to sell my little mare on - but I have to get her back into working nicely and see how she is feeling in herself and to settle down. So now I have put my beloved NSH mare on the for sale section at a seriously reduced price in the hope that she will find a super home and I can give my Section B the time she needs.

It so sad
But now i have got it all off my chest so to speak I feel a bit better - so sorry for boring you all and thank you for listening. I am just pleased I now have my little Rosie back
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nikki
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Posted - 20 Apr 2007 :  09:48:02 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nikki to your friends list Send nikki a Private Message
i hope you get her going good again soon.

Luckily you loaned her first.

pagey
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anne
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England
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Posted - 20 Apr 2007 :  10:56:46 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add anne to your friends list Send anne a Private Message
Had the same happen to me some years ago with a fell pony that I helped to back and school within weeks of going on loan to "an experianced person" they took him from a rubber snaffle to a pelham. Needless to say he was also back on the trailer quickly

Good luck with helping her to settle back down


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arabic
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Posted - 20 Apr 2007 :  11:16:34 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add arabic to your friends list Send arabic a Private Message
Aww so sorry to hear this - hope she is soon back to herself again. Blinkin people!!!

Sandie
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carrots
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Posted - 20 Apr 2007 :  11:33:00 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add carrots to your friends list Send carrots a Private Message
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I have emailed you, I am at work at the moment, but if you want to talk my no is 07931556985
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Debbie
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Posted - 20 Apr 2007 :  12:01:23 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Debbie to your friends list Send Debbie a Private Message
I just want to say in defence of people who loan - that we should not all be tarred with the same brush. I have a fabulous little Welsh section A on loan at the moment for my 5 year old daughter and she is ridden in a snaffle. I like to think that my horses have a fabulous home with me and over the years I have loaned in and out various horses/ponies

Debbie
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rosyw
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Posted - 20 Apr 2007 :  12:04:47 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rosyw to your friends list Send rosyw a Private Message
Good on you for taking her back! I'm afraid I would have given the girl something to REALLY cry about, SOME kids should never be allowed near animals!
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Coloured_Arabs
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Posted - 20 Apr 2007 :  12:08:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Coloured_Arabs to your friends list Send Coloured_Arabs a Private Message
Thank you all for your replies,

Thank you RosyW you have made me feel a bit better! - looking back I am beginning to feel slightly guilty but at the time I was so fired up that I didn't care! I just could not believe that these very 'horsey' parents did not attempt to correct the child. The mother even commented later that she rode the pony well
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nikki
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Posted - 20 Apr 2007 :  12:32:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nikki to your friends list Send nikki a Private Message
Yep, hear, hear Debbie. Loans can and do work out. Much rather loan than sell.

pagey
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rosyw
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Posted - 20 Apr 2007 :  12:57:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rosyw to your friends list Send rosyw a Private Message
Glad I made you feel a bit better! A few years ago I had a saddlery and would take a mobile unit to local shows, I used to get so angry with some of the kids my OH said it would take me a week to calm down! I have found that there seems to be 2 types of 'horsey' families, those that have a real love of horses, look after them properly etc., and those that think it gives them a bit of 'status' and whose 'little darlings' can do no wrong with their ponies, some of these I could cheerfully murder!!!!

Rosie
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donna72_uk
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Posted - 20 Apr 2007 :  4:16:49 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add donna72_uk to your friends list Send donna72_uk a Private Message
Glad shes back with her mum now
But i know some loans work out well My daughter rides a section b in a snaffle and when we ride over the back fields this pony takes off with her all the time and hes 26But i wouldnt dream of changing the bit he has always been ridden in a snaffle he just gets a bit excitedplus its good for her as i would like her to go onto Star when she gets biggerAlso i treat pride as my own

Donna
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Grey Girl
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Posted - 20 Apr 2007 :  5:23:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Grey Girl to your friends list Send Grey Girl a Private Message
No good us hating the kid, it's the parents - after all, the kid is not likely to be going off and getting a gag bit - and the parents should be reminding the kid how to ride eg one doesn't trot straight away, one doesn't jab the pony in the mouth etc etc etc.

Glad you've got your pony back... honestly, all these horrible experiences are putting me off the idea of trying to breed; I'd never dare let it out of my sight!

But to try and cheer people up: my three goddaughters all ride (one drives too) and they just charge about all over the place and in snaffles, both kids and ponies having a huge amount of fun and are quite fearless. The youngest one has just discovered the joys of jumping too.

Grey Girl

Said the little eohippus, "I´m going to be a HORSE"
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anne
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England
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Posted - 20 Apr 2007 :  5:55:14 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add anne to your friends list Send anne a Private Message
Yes I to think loaning is a good idea.

And yes it is the parents to blame. I remember when we first got Ghost on loan for my niece to ride and I remember going to a show where a mother was screeming at her child from a show ring HIT IT HIT IT dispite the fact this girl was not using her legs or putting the pony into the jump straight and when the girl protested she was the mother came out with WELL HIT THE B*****D HARDER I'LL TEACH IT TO JUMP.

I turned to my niece and pointed out if I every saw her use a whip with excessive force or incorrectly i.e. when it was not the horses fault I would use the whip on her with equal force.


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Coloured_Arabs
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Posted - 20 Apr 2007 :  6:59:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Coloured_Arabs to your friends list Send Coloured_Arabs a Private Message
I totally agree, it is definately the parents fault. I would never have been allowed to ride my ponies like that as a child, I would have been screamed at and told to get off it untill I had learnt to respect the pony.
Anne - I totally agree with your comment, I was quite keen on threatening this child with the whip to see how she would like it.

Grey Girl - Actually, your post did cheer me up, it painted a really nice image in my head of how children and ponies should be, I am so pleased your goddaughters all enjoy their ponies.

donna72_uk - Good thinking! I always think its good for a child to have a pony that has a mind of it's own and not a complete saint, its a good grounding for the future! Ponies are good for childrens development both as a rider and a person, they can build their confidence but also put them in their place!

Also, sorry if my post was taken the wrong way. I honestly did not mean it to be an 'anti-loan' arguement. It was more that I felt let down by my 'friends'.
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