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Deboniks
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 :  6:28:52 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Deboniks's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this topic Add Deboniks to your friends list Send Deboniks a Private Message
Hi
I know we covered this subject a while back and I can't seem to find the thread!!So I'm very sorry!
When I opened a new bag of Horse Hayage it smelt really bad of vinegar,so I took it back to the supplyers. They said no one else had complained but I insisted on opening a new bag before exchanging it. I opened 3 bags and they all smelt strogly of vinegar (blue bags)On a previous thread someone said this was botchalism???and could kill the horse?? In the end I got some 'timothy'(purple bag)to be on the safe side. I feel that if this is correct they should warn people who have bought it.Where can I find info on this?
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Debbie

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t_linington
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 :  7:24:49 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t_linington to your friends list Send t_linington a Private Message
Hi Debbie, I was informed that the botulisum was orange spores. This told to be by best mate(farmers wife) White mouldy bits are yeast fermentation(!dogdy spelling??!!)
You are probably safe, buying from a feed merchant, its when you buy straight from 'Farmer Giles' that you have to worry. Me thinks!?
Tina.

tina linington
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zoew37
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 :  8:13:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add zoew37 to your friends list Send zoew37 a Private Message
Just to let you know. We own a saddlery shop and stock all of the horsehage products. The blue one which you mentioned (High Fibre) is slightly stronger smelling then the other ones. As long as the bale has no mould and breaks up okay in your hand. The haylage shouldnt be to dry nor to wet.

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suyents
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 :  8:14:02 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add suyents to your friends list Send suyents a Private Message
Hi Debbie,
It was my original thread and, if i remember correctly, everyone seemed to agree that if the haylager smelt umpleasant..like ammonia in particular, then don't use it!! Haylage SHOULD smell really lovely: like sweet tobacco. Even if it wasn't as drastic as botulism, i wouldn't feed it if it smelt so acidic.
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suyen.
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Deboniks
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 :  9:54:57 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Deboniks's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add Deboniks to your friends list Send Deboniks a Private Message
thanks lucy
Suyents thanks thats what i thought.The smell was so strong I had to open the car window and the cue in the feed shop all commented on the smell!!Now that can't be right as usually it smells so good I could eat it myself!!

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Deboniks
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Posted - 23 Jan 2004 :  10:05:05 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Deboniks's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add Deboniks to your friends list Send Deboniks a Private Message
.........also can anyone tell me what this vinegar smell actually is thank you
Debbie

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Jingo
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Posted - 24 Jan 2004 :  9:53:12 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jingo to your friends list Send Jingo a Private Message
Hi Debbie - can't comment on the small bales bought from a feed merchant. We make our own haylage and if we open a big bale and it smells vinegary or acidic, it is usually because it is either too wet or has been allowed to sit in wet - we would NEVER feed it to horses. When we had cows they used to get all these bales. Luckily this year we have not had a bad bale YET. But we have a local farmer who would be delighted to take any spoilt bales - he says his cows would love them!!
IF IN DOUBT DON'T FEED IT - always the safest way.

Jude
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