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sue
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 Posted - 14 Nov 2006 : 5:13:55 PM
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Hi, does anyone have a picture or information about indriss?
thanks alot, Hannah
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Edited by - sue on 27 Nov 2006 3:33:54 PM
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shah
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Posted - 16 Nov 2006 : 09:15:29 AM
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Just bringing this back on top as I'd be interested too!
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Centaur
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Posted - 16 Nov 2006 : 10:51:25 AM
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Hello Sue
Do you mean Indriss (Indian Magic x Rissalma(Dargee x Rissiletta))?
If so I think he was bred by Mrs. E.Thomas, who was an influencial breeder at the time. He was well thought of as a sire and was used by non other than Joanna Maxwell on her foundation mare Kazra (that's some recommendation for a horse!) to produce Kazminda who bred a host of good horses inlucding Khamala. The same Indriss x Kazra mating produced Muzri who when sold to Mary Wragg founded a dynasty at Stapleford Arabians. As if that wasn't enough Indriss was then sold to Marchioness Townshend as a foundation sire for Sky Arabians in Norfolk. There he sired some lovely mares including Song of the Sky (out of Nawarra) who bred on well, producing show & race winners. Indriss is the maternal grandsire of my gelding Sky Cymbal hence my interest in him. He ended his days at the Sky Stud.
A picture of him is in the AhS news autumn 1972 no 35 pg 36.He is advertised as 14.3hh dark chestnut & appears quite a stocky compact horse.
Hope this is of interest.
Angela
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shah
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Posted - 16 Nov 2006 : 12:03:53 PM
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Yes it is that Indriss, thanks Angela! Hope you will be able to find the photo Hannah!
He must have sired the mare Indranhi (Indriss x Mishani) when he was at Sky I guess. Hannah, have you found out anything about her?
By the way, not sure if you know but I heard from someone that Bint Alyf was sold to Saudi Arabia. Not sure if she's still alive.
How are you getting on with your book? |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 16 Nov 2006 : 12:08:42 PM
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| 1972, AHS No.35,Pg.56, Yes Indriss(1961) Dk.Chestnut, 14.3h, Min.Lic. No.17261, sire Indian Magic dam, Rissalma, Picture is there....and I think there is one on the allbreeds... |
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sue
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Posted - 16 Nov 2006 : 2:49:59 PM
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Hi, thank you for the information! if anyone has a picture that will be a great help!!!
The book is taking me ages! and its 2 horses im doing it for!!! but i now have the tel number for both the breeders, im just being a too shy about ringing them at the moment! I didnt know bint alyf had gone to saudi tho! Ive got information about great grandparents and further back but not really mums dads and grandparents.
ROdney had 2 foals on called xsara and one kreuze and ive not found anything about them,
Kimm had about 7 i can see and nothing on them either!
I dont know if i contacted the AHS they could give me any info?
thanks again, Hannah |
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sue
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Posted - 16 Nov 2006 : 3:04:21 PM
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sorry forgot to add there should be a photo on the allbreed site, but everytime i go to bring it up its blank with a red cross in the corner!!
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 20 Nov 2006 : 8:21:43 PM
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Indriss has his picture on the allbreedpedigree. Take a look..Thanks P.... for your trouble....and
Angela, any chance you could get us a picture of your Cymbal on the all breeds so we can have a look....and I have a nice picture of Sky Crusader under saddle another horse from this Cymbals dynasty.
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Centaur
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Posted - 24 Nov 2006 : 7:37:36 PM
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Hello Sue
I'm afraid my IT talents don't stretch as far as photo posting.
Sorry!
Angela
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 24 Nov 2006 : 8:20:42 PM
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Angela,Could you email it and let someone else do the posting....want a good one mind.....or send it to me and I'll sort it and send it back.....you want the horses pic up don;t you..
Hannah, How are your two bred...Zsara & Kruze and when were they born.... I see the mare Bint Alyf has Bright Gleam in her pedigree and Al Malik.....were Pauline & I are doing a bit on these....
Shah, How's Voyajer....I have a cracking pic of Vesper in action...... Sue |
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sue
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Posted - 25 Nov 2006 : 11:56:58 AM
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Hi sue, We brought rodney Brian Bolton who i think brought had him from the race track, he was bred at Park arabians owned by Mr and Mrs Wright. and shown by them, When he was 3 he stood at the Wentworth stud with Steve McMorrow. he then sired the 2 foals Xsara and Kreuze in 1997. He then went racing, and we brought him from there. Im desperatly trying to find pictures and information out about his babies. It would be nice to hear about rodneys offspring.
Xsara was a bay filly out of Largin Topaz?
Kreuze was a bay colt out of Nasrals princess.
Ive had a look on the allbreeds site and there werent down there so i have added them, and there pedigrees do look nice (of course im biased as rodney is my baby!!)
Would you be able to send me some info about Al Malik and Bright Gleam? thanks, Hannah |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 26 Nov 2006 : 11:43:36 AM
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| Is Rodney..... Kalibar(1993)Escapade/Kanderel.??????? |
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shah
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Posted - 26 Nov 2006 : 4:33:00 PM
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Hi Sue, Voyajer is fine thanks, went out for a ride today and he was like dynamite after spending two days indoors in the bad weather I'd love to see the pic of Vesper!!!
Rodney, yes he is Kalibar, is Voyajer's half brother, same sire, but also related on the dam side as Rodney's grand dame is Voyajer's dame. So two very similar horses - they look like two peas in a pod |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 26 Nov 2006 : 5:20:30 PM
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Hi Tabita, I guessed the interest was through the Bint Alyf/Emir Alyf,,,small world. Vesper and the gang had a good trip to Portugal,I think they did 60+ miles and ended with a bruised heal bulb...otherwise fine..and well after the trip, took about four days to get then there and the same coming home, Emm flew back to ARO race some where...Christines horse got a place and did realy well. Will see if I can manage to put a pic up here of Voyajers daughter. and did you manage to get a pic..the good one out of the tack room, for your self.....
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sue
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Posted - 26 Nov 2006 : 6:57:54 PM
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Hi Sue, yep that is rodney! we have had him for eight years now!
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 26 Nov 2006 : 9:11:55 PM
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| Hi Sue Thank goodness we got it right, so now tell us what info your after about Kalibar(1993) and his relations....so we can try to help you....Sue. |
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sue
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 08:27:47 AM
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Well, i have quite a lot of info i would like so be prepared! im trying to do a book for my mum....
Escapade 1987 stallion
Kandarel Mare - unsure of DOB.
i do have contact details for Park Arabians who i think owned them
Nrav 1978 Stallion
Ksenia 1975 Mare
Klarnet 1975 Stallion
Bint Alyf 1981 Mare (shahs mum i think she was owned by park arabians also)
Naina II 1961 mare
Kasyda Mare - unsure on DOB
Karta 1962 mare - exported to USA in 1981
Emir Alyf 1976 Stallion
Indranhi 1975 Mare
Yosreia 1943 mare
Nomenklatura 1943 mare
Argos 1957 stallion
Minsilla 1961 mare
Naplyv 1958 - Bred by tersk imported to UK in 1962
Karinthia 1961 mare
Kapella 1957 mare
Al Malik 1968 stallion
Al shamsa 1969 mare
Mishani mare
this will keep everyone busy!!! if anyone has any info at all i will be very grateful!!
thanks, Hannah
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 12:08:31 PM
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So What sort of info are you after...and there are pictures of some of these on the allbreeds... and if you need to get someone to look at references from the AHS mags, you can ask me, as I have most of them and many cataloguedfor reference....
Nrav 1978 Stallion.Also known as Narav Ibn Aswad(By Aswan & sire of Escapade). Related to Qatar Champion Al Zeer...& Voyajer Shah's horse...
Klarnet 1975 Stallion.On loan with the Beafeaters Club.to Claverdon Lodge.
Bint Alyf 1981 Mare (also.Voyajer's Dam & owned by park arabians.)
Amir Alyf (1976) (stallion)
Argos 1957 Gr.stallion.Mr & Mrs Theobald.Yeld Bank Stud.Zehros,s Argos/Zehraa. Cherilee,Argos/Shaylee.Angel Face,Argos/Santa Maria.
Naplyv 1958 Gr.Stallion.- Bred by tersk imported to UK in 1962
Al Malik.Gr.1968 stallion.d.Bright Gleam.at Grange Stud.1976.with another good picture of this stallion inAHS.No.43.1976.pg11....and he was..2nd windsor.2nd.Bath&West.1st.Lincs.2nd.Norfolk & sire of Zuhrabad.Zaian.another good pic in AHS no.51.at 11years he was twice res.champion stallion at AHS.1975 & 1977.International winner..1978.& Aachen champion 1979.
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sue
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 12:24:31 PM
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Hi, i have some pictures already from the allbreed site. i would really just like to know a little bit of what they did with their lives, were they shown do they do well. who owned them were they improted/exported. just bits like that
for expample i have ...
Arax, bay 1952 stallion who stood at michalow stud? he was then exported to Russia and was the leading russian sire 1959 - 1969 at the tersk stud. then in 1969 he was purchased by Dr. Houtappel of Holland.
ive tried searching the web but without much luck!
just any lillte bits anyone knows, or pics they have would be great. its just to add to a book as an xmas present for my mum.
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Roseanne
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 5:11:45 PM
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| Forry to barge in on this conversation but if you go to Google and write in Arax but click 'images' above the bar, you'll get a page of photos and there's a couple of Arax. I think I have a colour one on my system but I'll have to ask Jude (Jingo) first, she'll know if it is him. He looks very nice indeed, and I think he's in my boy's pedigree. |
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sue
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 6:42:22 PM
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Hi, yep that is deff Arax! he is stunning.
thanks, Hannah |
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Anfi
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 9:11:08 PM
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Arax x4
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sue
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Posted - 28 Nov 2006 : 12:38:35 PM
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Hi, sue thank you for all your help in finding info about these horses. are you able to scan the picture of Al Malik on to this discussion?
thanks, Hannah |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 03 Dec 2006 : 1:28:13 PM
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Klarnet(1975) From article by Deirdre Hyde on Aswan(1958) from 1992.
Klarnet was leased to the UK in 1984 for one season, it says Klarnets influence on racing in this country was nothing short of dramatic.Exported to Italy,Full brother to Kilimanjaro a record holder,some offsprings.Klavier,Kwartet,Kyloe,Silkhan.Silvena, and Chatelaine (Lesley Dunn's mare).Also mentioned Nrav Ibn Aswan..
Aswan was a gift to the Russian Government in 1963,his registered name in the Egyption Stud Book is Rafaat.
A reference to the Polish stallion Arex (Amurath-Sahib/Angara)who stood at Tersk, or traced in direct female line to mares acquired from Poland.
I believe Klarnet was at Claverdon Lodge, Warwickshire...
for Ref. To Klarnet (above)& this article is in AHS 79/1992pg.46. (I do have a copy of this mag for sale).
 Al Malik(1968) (pic in AHS No.43,1976 & was at Stud with Grange Arabians.Boston, Lincs...stud fee £150.. |
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sue
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Posted - 03 Dec 2006 : 6:48:57 PM
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Hi sue, thank you for this, do you still have the copy for sale? i would be interested in this. Thank you for posting the pics and info. You have helped me alot!
thanks again, Hannah |
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 : 3:14:43 PM
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Hi Hannah, Yes, Just bought a bundle with No.79 in it.. I'll let you know soon as I've got them/it..Sue...
Just adding. Katochka(1985)straight Russian Filly by Klarnet(Aswan/Karta)out of September Gold (Listopad/Speshka).
Sue.
Also found a mention of Klarnet(Aswan/Karta)AHS No.62.1984.pg90. reported by Mrs Joan Ratcliffe.As standing at Claverdon Lodge Stud, Warwickshire. saying Beefeater Farms have leased Klarnet for the 1984 season only from Arab al Ariba, Italy. (head picture). and at that time these were standing at Claverdon Lodge. Musketeer, Kais I, Mudir, Rouse Nefous, & Klarnet......
says twice winner at the international show Verona. Race winner in Russia of the 2800mtr.St.Legger for three year olds at at 3 beating all ages in the 2400mtr.race. Sue |
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