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heatherr
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 Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 09:55:23 AM
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Her soles have become very thin after her latest lamanitic attack and basically we are running out of options. If she can grow some good sole, we may be able to work with her and get her sound again, but if not then there's no more to be done for her
I am at this point willing to give anything (within reason) a try. I am going to give her "remount" as a liver function support, but am keen to hear from people with supplement suggestions to help her soles grow quickly and healthily. She is currently on Farriers Formula.
The vet has said she can get out for a wander on restricted grazing if I can find some boots with good sole protection. Can anyone reccomend any? Easi boots are no good as they grip onto the hoof wall and her feet are in no shape to take that, plus they will also need to fit over the current frog supports that we have taped on. ( we can't nail shoes on and need to keep a regular check on the soles so can't glue any plastic ones yet)
I don't want to breach the forum's advertising code, so please feel free to email me purdy105@hotmail.com if you have any suggestions.
Many thanks
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Vera
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 10:11:56 AM
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I sorry to hear that Heather. Have a look at Judith's recent thread about boots she's been using.
I used Farriers Formula in the past for Perissa and have to say that I stopped feeding it after 18 months as she didn't show any improvement at all. I have heard good reports about Formula 4 Feet, Robert Eustace's from the Laminitis trust supplement.
Look here - (scroll down the horseowners discussion page and you'll see a post from yours truely)
http://www.ukhsu.com/forum/
Its not a very busy board but they will answer you.
Vera and Dennis
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heatherr
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Lila
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Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 10:28:13 AM
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HiHeather,
There is this guy in Holland who makes boots after a mould from your horses hoofs. You could try that? If you contact him or you can do it through me, he will send you material to take your horses hoof models (your vet or farrier can do that)and you send it back to him. He than will make them fit for each hoof! do not know if that will work for you?
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Marie-Molly
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 10:52:56 AM
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You could also try the old mac's boots, they don't grip on the walls at all.
I have an old pair you could borrow if you like - sized for typical arabs feet.
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Pauline
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England
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Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 11:33:25 AM
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Heather,
Have emailed you with some possible advice.
You could also ring Roger Hatch on 01243551766 he will be able to give you some really good advice. He will have something that will help.
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Pauline Higgs
Equine & Human Holistic Therapist
www.thegentlestouch.co.cc
www.endurancegbmidsouth.co.uk
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Edited by - Pauline on 05 Jul 2006 11:38:31 AM |
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Moosie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 12:45:27 PM
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Hi, Im in a bit of a similar situation to you (have posted here re my desperate efforts to help my horse who has got an incredibly severe laminitis with one sole now collapsed.) But Im persevering and he basically has to grow a new foot. Formula 4 feet seems to be the most highly recommended supplement to promote new growth, Im using it but its too soon yet to give a recommendation or otherwise.
A friend and neighbour had a small pony with bad laminitis. She made a template of her sole and taped a shaped piece of camping mat on each. I think it would need to be really dense impact resistant material but if your horse has sufficient foot to take the thick silage tape(which I am using on mine to protect the equithane we have on as a follow up from frog supports) that should hold it on for a few hours quiet turnout. If it worked maybe you could use pieces of rubber matting? You could try it out in the stable first. If youre anything like me you will be desperate to try anything. Good luck. |
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heathermcbreen
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England
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Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 12:56:14 PM
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This may be a stupid suggestion, but for just pottering would covering boots do? I know they are for rear feet but they may fit fronts as well. Hope you find something to help. Best wishes.
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heatherr
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England
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Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 1:46:09 PM
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Thanks everyone for your help so far. I have ordered formual 4 feet, should have that tomorrow We have quite a short time frame to work with as vet has said that if she doesn't make any improvement in around a month, she probably won't, so not really enough time to get a pair of boots specailly made, but thank you Monique for your kind offer, I will bear that in mind if she needs something longer term.
Thanks Marie, but I think I will need bigger boots to go over the tape and padding she is in.
Pauline - haven't had your email yet 
Hi Moosie - I read your thread at the time and my thoughts were with you. It is soul destroying to watch them go through this isn't it? I have her on soft rubber matting, so had thought if I could find the right type of boot, I could cut a piece to fit inside it, rather like an insole!
Thanks big sis! Am now off to explore the viability of covering boots!!
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 2:13:44 PM
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When mine have abscesses in the foot (we are on heavy clay with sharp flintstones so a regular occurence)I use vetraps and polythene to keep the poultices on. Could you cut the rubber to the hoof size and tape it on with lots of layers of vetrap. As she is unlikely to be racing around you won't need the polythene and as much vertap as I do.
As you are wrapping the foot, once the rubber sole is cut to size you just wrap it on the hoof making sure you go up to the fetlock so it can't come off. Two or three vetraps per foot should do, they won't come off but will wear through. I can get them cheaper than the vet/saddler charges (£1.45 per bandage) so if you ask your vet he may match that price (mine did as he was still making a profit as he usually charges over £2.00).
I also use plastic tape but that is very heavy duty and non-breathable so I think you would be better off with vetraps, mine are only wrapped for a short time.
Good luck
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Judith S
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Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 2:22:19 PM
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| The Old Mac G2s are VERY good - the lady I bought mine from also uses Old Macs on her lamanitic pony with great success for turnout. |
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Deboniks
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Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 3:09:12 PM
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| You can put pads on the Old Mac G2's to support the sole. Please email me and I will give you a phone number where you will get some good advice....you've nothing to loose but might have something to gain? |
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Pauline
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England
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Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 3:25:37 PM
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Hi Heather
My farrier has done wonders with horses with laminitis.
He is based in Chobham so it would mean you have to go to him
Do give him a ring I am sure he will be able to help you.
If you want to give me a ring my number is 07831568885
Pauline
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www.thegentlestouch.co.cc
www.endurancegbmidsouth.co.uk
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Grey Girl
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England
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Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 7:24:18 PM
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You can also use old socks to help keep poultice/supports/whatever on... apply poultice/support etc, pull sock on over it all, then vetrap/tape/bandage/whatever around the fetlock (sock being pulled up over fetlock) and something waterproof over the sole, eg that black tape the vet can give you (name escapes me).
I find socks really do keep poultices on, even on a cross horse that's being allowed turnout time and who has an urge to charge around when they shouldn't be.
Every best wish for you and hope all goes well...
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ella
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Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 7:27:23 PM
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You need lots of movement to grow more sole. Pads fitted properly inside boots are essential for Trio to be comfortable enough to do the walking neccessary. Look here:-
http://www.aanhcp.info/uk/trimmers.aspx
for a list of trimmers who can help you with pads & boots.
Also take a look at this: http://www.hoofrehab.com/ |
   
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