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Nuttybabez
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 England
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 Posted - 03 Jul 2006 : 10:24:54 PM
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Hiya,
I have heard that my job will no longer exist in the not-too-distant future (about a year or two away) and I was day dreaming today and thinking of what I could do next.
Anyway, I was thinking about setting up a stud and maybe taking 1 or 2 liveries or horses for people on holiday possibly for extra income. I know its not going to be "whoops, there you go" and all peachy and I expect to have to work full time when I am setting up, possibly then going into part time work when the stud is more stable.
Can anyone who runs a stud possibly give me a little info/suggestions and also, how many mares would you expect your stallion to cover in a year? Do you generally get a couple of outside mares or a lot? I know this can vary on the stallion.
Thank you,
Sarah.
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nikki
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Wales
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 10:38:00 AM
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Hi Sarah,
I don't have a stallion, but friends do, a number of them. They lucky if they get one outside mare. All you need to do, is buy a stud book. And you can see for yourself that stallions do not get alot of mares-unless he's the latest fashion.
To make a living out of breeding horses, you need alot of money to begin with. And even then?????
I do it as a hobby, a very expensive hobby. I know i would never make any money-not that any of my lot are for sale. I breed with the intention of keeping.
jmo, sorry to be a downer!
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rhoni
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 11:15:57 AM
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| How do you you make a small fortune out of horses? Start with a large one! I agree with Nikki. You'd probably do much better with liveries, certainly a better chance of making some money than losing it. Most small studs run at a loss and are done out of love and madness. |
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Porsche
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 11:31:18 AM
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Hi,
Well I am slowly setting up a small stud - my aim is to breed world class endurance horses (we all must have a dream). I hopefully have a stunning young colt(arabxsaddlebred) joining me in October, I have two foundation mares(IDxArab and a TB)a yearling filly out of the IDxArab mare by Heritage Nero(AA) and my little Arab gelding who I compete.
My TB mare is going off to be covered in the next couple of weeks by the stallion in Taylors sig
There will be many years of breeding and competing before people will begin to become interested in what we're doing - people don't like change so setting up from scratch you have to work twice as hard and achieve twice as much BUT it is twice as rewarding |
Some people are like a Slinky ... not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.
     
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avanti
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England
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 12:34:49 PM
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| Hi Sarah, I used to run my small stud alongside liveries,it very much depends on fashion which stallions are in demand each year, I look on my horses as a hobby, my liveries were all hunters,so very busy winter time I used to prepare all the horses(5) and the owners, who were all friends would pick them up and drop them back to me after hunting to see to, then they went away to grass in the summer and I did the breeding through the summer, it worked very well and I made a reasonable profit each year, however the hunters bought their own place and left after 6 fun filled years (they were always completely bonkers)now I do night duty to support me and the kids and the horses just about pay for themselves, I wouldn't change it, Mandy. |
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LYNDILOU
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 1:14:26 PM
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If you can find a way of making money by owning a stud, Do let me know ! My stallion is one of the well known stallions in the country and the ONLY 3*** stallion to date! yet I have never made money  (lost loads, my OH says its like digging a hole in the ground and burying money daily ! only harder work ) I keep my horses mostly for pleasure although sometimes I wonder what pleasure as I have just come in from bathing 5 horses, alone ! when my stallion was standing at stud I found the hard work of having other peoples horses didnt pay, and I was often OUT of pocket.
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barbara.gregory
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 1:29:09 PM
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My horses keep me extremely poor. As Rhoni says, the only way to make a small fortune from breeding horses is to start with a large one. Another old saying is "Fools breed horses for wise men to buy". If you can run your horses as a business then it may not be too bad. Sadly, I have never been able to do that, it isn't like selling a pound of sausages and the welfare of my horses is the most important thing to me, I would rather they went to good home than I got more money for them.
I had a sale for my Orashaan stallion but as the people wouldn't come to see him (wanted to buy him over the phone/internet from description and photos) I refused to sell him to them; what if they were disappointed when they saw him or they didn't "click" together? Instead he was gelded and went to someone as a riding horse with the money to be paid as and when. To date I have had nothing except the money for him to be gelded but he is happy and much loved and that is what is important to me.
Barbara
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jaj
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 3:45:49 PM
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Maybe the trick is not to have too many expectations and be realistic about what you can earn through the horses, then if there is anything over and above, it is a bonus. When I was 14, I spent a lot of time with a lady who both worked full time in an office and ran a small Arab stud, her advice was unequivocally to derive your income for your horses from your day job!
Hope you are successful in your venture
Jen
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Emancy
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Nuttybabez
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England
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 4:12:44 PM
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| Thanks for all the help guys. Maybe time to reconsider! I wasn't expecting to make millions but I would need some profit or at least running costs covered! Thank you for all the advice, I appreciate it. |
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nikki
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barbara.gregory
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 5:05:56 PM
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Exactly that, Claire. I still have his papers so he is still mine until paid for. They asked if they could pay a bit at a time when they could afford it and we drew up a contract stating that he is mine until paid for but I had expected to get something occasionally!!!! Of course, I didn't know about the job situation then; I was on a good salary and, unlike some others who state that the horse is more important than the money when it isn't, to me it is, and he is loved and happy. He is at a livery yard and everyone there also loves him and he gets lots of fuss and attention.
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Tahir
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 6:41:00 PM
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Completely agree with Lyndilou, I also have a stallion who had a fantastic SHOW reputation in his day, but have found that he breeds much better riding horses, so most of his babes have gone as pets and lifelong friends to non-show homes. I have also given away foals to deserving friends who have provided a caring and loving home to these special babes!! So if you have any tips on how to make money breeding, pleeese let me know, my OH will be so pleased!!!
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nicolanapper
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 7:28:47 PM
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Sarah, I agree with Nikki a livery yard would be fun and should at least give you a small living, and be good fun as well. Then perhaps if you still wanted the stud you could run that alongside, but only as a hobby, do not expect to make money out of horses. They are money pits, but we all love them and would not be without them so therefore we are happy to help bury our money!!!!
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