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proctorclaire Posted - 27 Jun 2014 : 12:54:31 PM
My poor Connemara X has laminitis and my poor Arabs are on box rest with her for company.

Caught it early last Friday. 6 Weeks box rest with limited soaked hay, danilon and aspirin every other day.

Just when you thought summer time meant no mucking out, early morning starts etc zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
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proctorclaire Posted - 12 Sep 2014 : 12:53:33 PM
Once I get rid of all the grass. The yard area is gravel but grass to. Problem i have is keeping her calm. Going to try her on a calmer but need to phone supplier first and make sure it is safe for laminitics to use.
Callisto Posted - 10 Sep 2014 : 08:05:08 AM
We kept our welshie sane by keeping him initially in the yard outside the stable (with access to the stables) and making one of the others take it in turn to keep him company. This worked fine until his Welshie cousin worked out how to break into the feed room/hay store and let him in too . After that he was confined to a small electric fenced pen around the field shelter, with the others taking turns to keep him company. Would it be possible to sort something similar for her? He also had one of those treat balls with a few nuts into keep him busy, which he really enjoyed kicking about. His buckets got chucked around too.
SuziQ Posted - 09 Sep 2014 : 7:28:18 PM
What a shame.. What about an outside pen for a change of scene..I'm sure that helped keep Millie sane. Along with nettles and other low sugar hidden treats. She liked kicking the Pilates ball so much she destroyed it !
proctorclaire Posted - 09 Sep 2014 : 3:35:03 PM
Just thought we were going to get much better results and think vet thought that to. Such a long haul to go through isn't it. She is ready for bringing the stables down to.
garnet Posted - 09 Sep 2014 : 3:28:20 PM
Red had an abscess straight after his lami. I understand you are disappointed but Red was on box rest longer than 12 weeks and out of action 6 months so try not to be too discouraged. I know - easier said than done! At least things are heading in the right direction.
proctorclaire Posted - 09 Sep 2014 : 1:38:51 PM
Well vet came today to take more xrays after the imprints being taken off last night. We are 12 weeks into box rest.

The left fore is much better, not as much sinking and rotation better.

The right fore sinking hasn't changed and still very close to the sole although rotation is better. Right fore also showing dark shadow which wasn't there before so vet thinks probably abscess coming.

Farrier is away to see the xrays and decide what to do.

Good that the rotation is better but disappointing as was hoping the x rays would give her the all clear.
proctorclaire Posted - 19 Aug 2014 : 1:23:20 PM
Nick Hill told me about the Thunderbrook stuff so going to go on the website and have a look. I feel bad for her only having the school and a small section of the field but at least I have a descent size school and it has to be better than her getting laminitis again! I would rather she was out than only being allowed out for an hour or 2 a day and then back in stable.
pinkvboots Posted - 18 Aug 2014 : 7:09:45 PM
Originally posted by proctorclaire

Decided I am going to use my sand school and part of the field as permanent turnout for her. I don't like strip grazing and a bare paddock isn't any use when you have clay mud. She can be turned out all the time then and not have to worry about muzzling. She has all the hedges to nibble on and will have hay. She has already been on box rest for 9 weeks and dont want to stress her out with only 1 hour turnout a day etc. If I or my livery want to use the school for riding I can just stick her in her stable.


I am so glad she is getting better, I turned my mare out in the school for weeks as she hated the muzzle and I wanted her moving about I used to tie lots of really small haynets along the fence and cut her nettles I did sedate her the first week and she was fine.
arabella Posted - 18 Aug 2014 : 5:36:14 PM
had a 23yrs old arab mare with laminitis, i was advised to look at the thunderbrook equestrian website. i did and followed their advice about a gut cleanse, which they sell. mare sound now and blooming she had a full rotation so i am more than pleased my wonderful mare is no longer in pain.
proctorclaire Posted - 18 Aug 2014 : 1:26:07 PM
Decided I am going to use my sand school and part of the field as permanent turnout for her. I don't like strip grazing and a bare paddock isn't any use when you have clay mud. She can be turned out all the time then and not have to worry about muzzling. She has all the hedges to nibble on and will have hay. She has already been on box rest for 9 weeks and dont want to stress her out with only 1 hour turnout a day etc. If I or my livery want to use the school for riding I can just stick her in her stable.
Callisto Posted - 12 Aug 2014 : 9:54:03 PM
Having lost our only homebred to laminitis at the premature age of 12 (20 years ago), it is great to read your positive update - excellent
garnet Posted - 12 Aug 2014 : 8:30:15 PM
So pleased to hear that things are going well for you! Excellent news!
Ari Posted - 12 Aug 2014 : 1:33:48 PM
Very pleased all going to plan and your hard work is paying off.
Research has come a long way since my mare had lami over 15 yrs ago but advice still the same about the hoof repairing itself from the coronet down. We were over 3 mths before risking the workload to the hoof of turnout undoing any healing which took us into winter and thankfully no grass to worry about.
Best wishes for a complete recovery
proctorclaire Posted - 12 Aug 2014 : 10:28:20 AM
Not given an update in a while. The imprint shoes have been on now for 3 weeks and she is much better. We are 7/8 weeks into box rest. The vet was out last week and said that the pulses and heat have gone in her feet and the dropping at the coronory band is repairing which means the rotation is correcting inside. She is no longer lame also. Vet said she could walk around the yard area for 20 mins with a muzzle on but she went mental. It is one of the shire type ones and I think she hates the feel of her whole muzzle being enclosed so have ordered a greenguard one instead. Still got to have next set of x rays in a few weeks so no turnout just yet until we know for certain everything going back into place.
pinkvboots Posted - 23 Jul 2014 : 11:35:33 AM
Good luck with the imprint shoes I dont have much experience of them but fingers crossed they work for you.
Lucytoo Posted - 22 Jul 2014 : 07:01:27 AM
Its horrible having to starve them for the blood tests, but hopefully that will be her last one. Good luck with the shoes, hopefully they will give her some relief and help her recovery.
Let us know how your results go.
L.x
proctorclaire Posted - 21 Jul 2014 : 1:16:01 PM
Well I have decided to try the imprint shoes, they go on tomorrow. If the x rays aren't much better on the next set we have done following the shoes then they are coming off! Poor mare having to be starved again tonight ready for the glucose test tomorrow morning to see whether she has EMS or not. She is not happy at all now being in the stable and getting understandibly very peed off. I would turn her out in the sand school but it is full of grass as never gets used. Will need to somehow get rid of it so she can go in their and move around.
garnet Posted - 19 Jul 2014 : 4:17:50 PM
Interesting. Red is shod with fronts only as he does all his work on grass or surfaces (following accident on road where he dumped me and buggered off I won't allow anyone to hack him) and I am tempted to try him with fronts off as well next winter. His hinds are fine.
AJJ Posted - 19 Jul 2014 : 06:57:01 AM
My horse had rotation and was rehabbed barefoot, however, my partner is a barefoot trimmer and he and the vet worked together using the X-rays as a guide. As I balanced all his minerals and encouraged as much movement as he could tolerate with boots and pads inserted his feet grew pretty quick and I would say he was trimmed and re balanced every 3 weeks, it's the new growth/hoof angle which supports the pedal bone, the lamini need to repair to provide assist the re alignment of P3, a shoe will assist with this and maintain the angle. My personal opinion having worked with both shod and bare horses recovering from lami is the hoof repairs quicker when bare, but that's not to say it should always be done bare, each case is very different and you should always be guided by professionals.
garnet Posted - 18 Jul 2014 : 10:02:37 PM
Because Red's soles were quite soft he wore boots over his Imprints when he was first able to be turned out. My understanding is that the shape of the Imprint supports the pedal bone to prevent further rotation which boots would not do but I am not an expert and just speaking from my own experience.
proctorclaire Posted - 18 Jul 2014 : 8:32:01 PM
I am still undecided on having imprint shoes or leave barefoot with boots if going outside on stones. Have had a lot of talks with Hoofing marvellous and nick hill up here and they never use glue or nailed shoes on laminetic horses. All are barefoot with supports.
Lucytoo Posted - 16 Jul 2014 : 7:20:44 PM
My boy had IMPRINT glue on shoes fitted, they are amazing shoes, we only needed them on the fronts for two shoeing's. They have a website.
He had 2% rotation(along with a problematic seroma) in his front right and the rest were fine.
garnet Posted - 16 Jul 2014 : 7:01:33 PM
Red had 2 sets of Imprint shoes which are glue-on. They are quite expensive but they helped to save my big lad. I don't know the percentage rotation but vet and farrier said I was lucky to save him. After the Imprints he had a set of heart bars and then he was shod normally. The day after that he got an abscess in a hind foot and after that it snowed and that was 2010 done and dusted!
DianaSC Posted - 16 Jul 2014 : 2:07:06 PM
After I let Kalli get laminitis a few years ago, she wore Eponashoes for about a year I think. They can be glued on but Kal had hers nailed on with as few nails as possible. Then silicon was pumped underneath the shoe to give support. (She'd never been shod before - or since.) www.eponashoe.com

Vet said he thought there was slight rotation in off fore, near fore probably not. He did not xray so no idea of how much. She recovered well, the hooves grew rapidly with liberal massaging in of Cornucrescine and some other similar Spanish stuff. She's been absolutely fine ever since (well, her feet have, the rest of her is falling apart, poor darling).

Hope your girl's getting better
proctorclaire Posted - 16 Jul 2014 : 1:13:15 PM
Just thought I would give you an update. Got results from x rays yesterday. 10% rotation in one and 14% in the other. The vet wants to put heart bar shoes on but I am not keen on hammering nails into a sore hoof! Did anyone use the glue on shoes or just use boots instead? What was everyone elses rotation percentages? Waiting on bloods to come back about EMS or Cushings.


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