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| Gerri |
Posted - 14 Nov 2011 : 12:51:24 PM
Can someone please advise me on Navicular? we have been out and about looking at horses as my husband now feels he is ready to love another horse after losing his horse years ago on the operating table and thought he would never again feel able to love another horse the way he did Ben anyway, we do not have lots of money, but felt that we could afford to get him a happy hack so that he could ride out with me, but he needs a big horse to take up his leg as he is 6ft 4" tall but only weighs 12 stone max anyway he went to try a horse yesterday who he fell in love with and That we can afford to buy, but he has just been diagnosed with Naviclar, so he will need egg bar shoes and supplements etc, which is fair enough, but apart from knowing what navicular is vaguely I have never have a horse with Navicular so don't really know the implications and I worry about my husband as I know he will be totally emotionally attached to his new horse, so whilst I am over the moon that he has found a horse, I am worried that no matter what treatment the horse will need that he might end up getting nothing back from this horse in as far as not being able to ride him? can you give me your thoughts please? am I over reacting? I know its a progressive thing so will never improve, but how qickly will it progress? the horse was competed at top level for a while and was diagnosed 6 months ago. |
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| Gerri |
Posted - 27 Nov 2011 : 2:36:04 PM
ooops Sorry Pasch I was not sure if I was posting in the right place for the subject matter, I think I was having a senior moment happening more and more these days |
| Pasch |
Posted - 26 Nov 2011 : 6:58:23 PM
Why not here? |
| Gerri |
Posted - 26 Nov 2011 : 6:00:30 PM
The new horse has arrived!!!!! will now post on Tea & Coffee forum about him |
| Gerri |
Posted - 25 Nov 2011 : 07:51:00 AM
My black mare is on a breeding loan to a very nice stud and she is not broken, apparently she scanned in foal recently to a beautiful big black stallion so I am wising them lots of luck with that, she will probably be home next year unless they wish to use her again, but thats all she knows bless her, breeding is not an option for me though |
| Zan |
Posted - 24 Nov 2011 : 11:29:45 PM
What about the black mare you imported from England to France--was she too small for him as well? |
| Kazzy |
Posted - 24 Nov 2011 : 1:44:42 PM
Oh right I didnt know he was that small!! had it in my mind that you bought him for hubby to ride, must be thinking of some one else!!
Janet |
| Gerri |
Posted - 24 Nov 2011 : 1:19:25 PM
I gifted him to my dear friend Rosie as she loved him soo much and he was staying with her and he could not have a better home in the whole world actually you have reminded me I have to post some stuff off to her he was only 14hh. bless him hardly suitable for someone of 6ft 4  |
| Kazzy |
Posted - 24 Nov 2011 : 10:43:43 AM
Gerri, what happened to that lovely black stallion you bought and had in France? Did you bring him back with you and Milly, cant he ride the stallion, just thinking out loud really save you some money!
Janet |
| Callisto |
Posted - 23 Nov 2011 : 8:18:10 PM
Good luck to both of you with whatever you decide, particularly Simon since as you say it is to be his baby - it is obvious that whoever the lucky horse is he will be going to a fantastic home, and now that you have clarified the position somewhat as regards the poppet it does sound more positive. Particularly if you can speak to a neutral third party such as the vet mentioned. |
| Gerri |
Posted - 23 Nov 2011 : 8:02:10 PM
ank you Jessiemae, I don't know why I am excited really it will be Simons baby all I know is that it will be spoilt rotten whatever the outcome I will of course keep everyone updated and post some pics |
| JESSIEMAE |
Posted - 23 Nov 2011 : 7:46:06 PM
Hi Gerri, good luck with whatever you decide to do. Just wanted to add that my rescue, Montana, is 18 in February and looks like a 7 year old ! She is also my favourite ride and is 100% in traffic, with double decker buses, motorbikes and Hgv's roaring past us and she doesn't bat an eyelid ! Give me a golden oldie any day
Liza xx |
| Gerri |
Posted - 23 Nov 2011 : 6:35:13 PM
Okay folks this is the latest the girl and her mum came over to the yard tonight the Mum does not want to sell the 19 year old (actually 18) she bought him for her daughter when she was 9 years old, he has never really done anything except hack out and a few local shows hence the clean legs she explained that her daughter has been made redundant and the sister who rode him hard in the school does not really bother with him was just showing off and so the girl that owns him her daughter, is struggling to keep him and just wants him to have somewhere where he will be loved and cared for she met the yard owner where I keep my girl and I left them to talk I don't know what was said but she said she would love us to have him and that he would not have a better home, which was lovely, made me feel really nice inside as obviously people notice how you love your horses and I told the yard owner to give her number so they could call her direct, sooooo we will see what happens from here, also she said we can ring her vet and talk to him as he has always looked after the horse since he was 3 years old and never had a days sick or sorry in his life, Milly is 18 years old and she is like a 5 year old and I never think of her as old so thats the latest, I will keep you updated at what happens next............if I am not boring you to death yet if I am, then I am sorry but I just feel all of you have been there every step of the way throughout this journey of indecision and feel you should be part of the outcome    |
| Quarabian |
Posted - 23 Nov 2011 : 5:04:42 PM
Yes sab2 I agree. I have said this in a previous post on this topic. I would not part with my old guy with navicular for money, but he is staying here until the end anyway. When he was first diagnosed he could still be ridden and would have made a schoolmaster for someone, but I still wouldn't expect someone to pay for him. |
| sab2 |
Posted - 23 Nov 2011 : 4:46:28 PM
Well i am going to sound hard hearted but i would have neither, if the 19yr old was free then fine maybe take a chance but for the owner to ask any money for this horse is awful esp as he seemed a little lame. If he were mine i would just be grateful somebody wanted to give him a home at 19yrs. Good luck whatever you decide. |
| Quarabian |
Posted - 23 Nov 2011 : 3:33:55 PM
I agree with Zan. The 19 year old horse is in need of help. The other is the reponsibility of the owner pregnant or not. |
| Zan |
Posted - 23 Nov 2011 : 2:39:51 PM
Personally I couldn't walk away from the 19 year old and leave him in the hands of these idiots. He really is a horse in need, and as a bonus might well be a good horse for a good few years yet. The owner of the navicular horse should face up to her responsibilities and look after him herself instead of trying to off load him.
If you are looking at really cheap horses becase that is all you can afford at the moment I suggest you wait a while till you have saved a bit more. |
| debs |
Posted - 23 Nov 2011 : 1:35:39 PM
If she was that desperate to give him a good home she should give him to you...then you could save that money for the start of the vets bills.... |
| Gerri |
Posted - 23 Nov 2011 : 1:11:58 PM
Okay.....I agree with everything you all say I know that you are all right we have the chance of having a yonger fit horse and the owner is coming to see us on sunday I will not do anything until we see the horse and how much she will want for him? she will consider us having him on a months trial subject to where we keep him so fingers crossed it works out okay |
| Pasch |
Posted - 23 Nov 2011 : 11:46:07 AM
Agree with Offira and Suelin.You can't buy a horse because you don't want to upset the seller!
Had I known Pasch had his problems before buying him(vet who visited was from the sellers' town as it was too far to go with mine,I was either cheated or he was incompetent )I would have gone looking for another horse.Now I have a horse that I love to bits but that I can hardly ride at all,in fact I ride other horses when I can as I can't afford to buy and pay livery for another one.Don't get into the same situation as long as you can still avoid it.
If I had to choose I would also choose the poppet(owner of navicular will look for another good home)but really you should look for a younger,healthy horse. |
| Offira |
Posted - 23 Nov 2011 : 09:39:45 AM
I'm going to sound very hard hearted here but the lady is desperate for you to have him because you are the answer to her prayers (quite understandably as it is the perfect solution, so not getting at the lady ). It is whether the horse is the answer to your prayers that is the question.
In your shoes  I would feel bad about the navicular horse, but go for the 19 year old (it won't be long before he is 20).
Also having taken 3 horses through to old age and very old age and the cost of long term retirement. I would prefer to start with a younger horse (say under 12).
Actually, scrub all that I would take the 19 year old just to stop him being cantered round and round in deep sand. This is why I am poor I think.
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| Suelin |
Posted - 23 Nov 2011 : 09:10:57 AM
Sorry Gerri but I can't, for the life of me, understand why anyone would knowingly buy an unsound horse when with a bit more looking they could find a sound one without any issues. JMO, |
| Gerri |
Posted - 23 Nov 2011 : 06:48:39 AM
They are not free but the lady with navicular has offered him free as she spoke to my ex vets and yard owner and said she really wants us to have him and she has said she will have him back if and when he cannot be ridden again she also came and saw the yard and spoke to present yard owner and later called her and asked her questions and she said that she could not wish for a better home for him and even said she would get him transported to us, so she is really desperate for us to have him and I m afraid of upsetting her because she is pregnant and was sooo keen for us to have him and for him to enjoy the easy life of us hacking him out and loving him |
| Bebely |
Posted - 22 Nov 2011 : 7:55:17 PM
I agree with Quarabian Gerri. If either of these are free to good home then you can decide whether you want to pay the vet bills and deal with the heartache.
Would your husband be happy with a horse he can pet and love if it can't be ridden? I'm sure he would if he had enjoyed some years of hacking out and riding fun but what if either can only manage 6 months?
If he is really looking for a riding companion, can you bear to save up a little longer and look at other options. I know you want to save them all!
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| Quarabian |
Posted - 22 Nov 2011 : 2:48:21 PM
It's a minefield out there Gerri. I don't envy your decision as the big guy sounds possible, but if it says 19 on his passport he could be 26. You wouldn't know my old girl's age by her teeth and condition.
I have just 'given a horse away for half of what I paid for her as a 2 year old. She is an absolute treasure, but I couldn't get anyone to come to see her in Wales. She is 5 years young with the rest of her career in front of her. She is good in traffic, no vices or issues, steady but willing, travels and loads easily etc, but no one would come to see her. So rather than take her to a sale I have found a good home. With this in mind there must be plenty out there looking for a good home.
If you decide to go with either of these you would be doing them a favour to take them off their hands. So don't let them take money from you. |
| Callisto |
Posted - 22 Nov 2011 : 2:01:13 PM
Oh lord what a dilemna, I don't know what to say Gerri, very hard not to want to rescue the poppet - but how long will your husband be able to ride him out for? There are exceptions to the rule but larger horses do tend to age quicker. What if he is even older than 19? It would be one thing if you had your own land and were able to keep him as a field ornament when the time came, but quite another if you are paying to keep him at livery.
Given the positive report by the vet I would probably give the first boy a chance - but ultimately it is down to your husband - which one did he prefer riding? Which one did feel happier with handling? Would going to see the original one again clarify his feelings? Good luck which ever way you go, and remember that there are other horses out there. |
