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| sarah_and_sert |
Posted - 14 Aug 2011 : 10:18:14 PM
Wanted this to be a yeah sert did well post but all I want to do is cry :(
I get a lot of stick with Sert, no he dont look like an arab but he is, its not his fault he look like a little tb. The only thing he has is common with a tb is his exracer past and he cant do those classes either. So I never bother doing the purebred classes its to much hassel to be slagged off from the ringside. Ive only ever done the RAGW shows as the judges and people understand hes different.
Well due to the post about "Saving our local shows" and the fact I was told the judge at Llanedi knew what they were on about I had a go at the inhand pure bred and mixed ridden.
We were the only ones waiting to go into the ring and I was told by a man at ringside I was waiting for the wrong class and shouldn't he be plaited :( I just wanted to cry they laughed when I said he was purebred. Well we went in and walked round twice then told by the steward to stop as two were missing. We waited then I was told to trot and we were pulled in for the individual trot up. Well we won but only because we were the only ones there :( no more no less
So then thought I had plenty of time to tack up and change as there were three Part bred classes but only one turned up so didnt even have time to warm up. He went well apart from a buck going into canter and we were 3rd but won the highest placed purebred trophy. Well I was chuffed with him he behaved lovely and considering I was so nervous of him he went on trial to be sold over christmas I think our bond is returning slowly.
Well untill tonight, Im so upset to read on here that I knew there were people missing from the class (yes the steward told me) and I saw them running up and down. Well im sorry but the first time I saw the horses were during the ridden class :( its really upset me and I know im probally just tired after a long day but I cried when I read the other post. I know not many of you know me but I love my horses and the love of competing is a bonus. I work hard for what I do and its really upset me that someone would think that id be so selfish to not say anything to keep the class for myself (my words not theirs) you can have my rossette no problem my horse behaving and me not being scared was enough of a prize
Sorry to blab on but im getting upset just writing :(
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| LYNDILOU |
Posted - 31 Aug 2011 : 11:26:01 AM
aww  just seen this , Sarah dont you shed one tear sweetheart , your love for your horse is all that matters, you are right to be proud of him and you both look a picture together , I am sure George would rather cut off his toungue than say anything to hurt anyone, so yes I agree all crossed wires . I hope you will continue to have fun with showing your horse and doing whatever makes you happy, |
| jasjmm |
Posted - 30 Aug 2011 : 7:31:11 PM
Yes, and don't forget the other end of the stick - "your horse is far too pretty to be good at anything..."
My usual response: "do you personally KNOW my horse?". (who Is bold, kind, honest, incidentally likes cross country, jumping, hacking in the heaviest of traffic, takes no notice of tanks (video evidence of that posted to YouTube) etc, etc.
My older mare, by the way, is far less extreme, but no less Arab; and also has nothing to prove.
Well done with your horse Sarah, continue to enjoy him - everything else is irrelevant!
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| garnet |
Posted - 30 Aug 2011 : 7:14:18 PM
Numbbum - you are so right about treasuring every moment. My philosophy after 3 seasons blighted by illness and injury (shared by my 70+ friend who has also had her share of setbacks) is that you have to do what you can when you can. Every time we get to a show or have a good day with our horses is a bonus and we are doing it for pleasure and anyone who doesn't like it can do the proverbial  .
FullCircle - WOW! |
| justine |
Posted - 30 Aug 2011 : 4:16:30 PM
As long as you love your horse nothing else matters.
Well done you for everything, dont let anyone steal your happiness with your horse.
Ive got one for you - my extremly well bred arabian colts were weaned and ready for flu/tet/chip. Vet came, did the job and called the surgery to get me a price. She said `its a price for Miss Bassindale, 2 welsh pony yearlings!!!!!!!` WHAT? I was so shocked I didnt say a word. Was kind of funny but very insulting.
Never mind I love my welshponies lol |
| triple velvet |
Posted - 30 Aug 2011 : 2:33:35 PM
I have one of those Arab look a likes!! She is 100% pure bred (have passport to prove it) but doesn't look it. (Bay in my sig) I think because she is 4yrs and had always been bum high and not leveled out. Plus she don't have much of a dished head. She is one hell of a  when she wants to be but I would NEVER change her for anything. Enjoy Sert Like I enjoy my Kira with a smirk on your face.
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| jobo |
Posted - 30 Aug 2011 : 11:57:40 AM
well i once went to the orsett show to show my little piebald mare pepsi,i was told where she was black she wasnt black enough???? and she had too much white????? and that was a so called judge at county level!! showing can a matter of opinion and thats that.i just looked at him in dissmay??? and then walked away what can you do,come out fighting another day thats all,ive had rubbish days where the pony was the wrong colour etc so what take the rough with the smooth,but when you win on your own merrits boy it feels good and the memory stays with you forever.and if he/shes the wrong colour or not this or that,just grin to yourself and say but hes/shes mine and is the winner to me.horses should be messured by there hart and what they do for you,and if you have that special bond then you really are the winners,and ribbons are a bonous not the end of the world |
| barbara.gregory |
Posted - 16 Aug 2011 : 09:51:51 AM
Honey, don't give up on the dressage. My friend has a "vanner"; heavy cob with feathers , bred in the bogs in Ireland. He just loves dressage and is really good at it. When he went to his first shows everyone laughed. Now he is a local star and has qualified for the next stage and also does dressage to music.
He may not look the part but he wins where ever he goes as he just loves it and his presence and star quality are fantastic.
Barbara |
| honey |
Posted - 15 Aug 2011 : 10:24:13 PM
i think showing can be rather opinionated. I dont show gizzy over here as shes not typey in any class, and doesn't fit in, shes a sport horse type. I even get it in dressage either the judges love her or hate her and her dressage marks can vary greatly that i even stopped attempting dressage. She loves jumping and at least you either jump it or knock it down lol.
end of day as long as everyone gets home safe thats the main thing. used to show a gelding and came last every time but we kept showing eventually we turned champion in wh, and got many firsts in show hunter and intermediate classes and wasn't because he was the prettiest but because his manners were impeccable, so keep trying its the enjoyment that counts. |
| arabesque |
Posted - 15 Aug 2011 : 7:53:23 PM
Oh dear, poor Sarah and poor George, it has to be a misunderstanding - you're both such nice people !
Sarah, don't take any notice of people too ignorant to realise that our Arabs come in many different shapes and sizes.I get the same remarks often "he can't be pure bred, he's way over height!" he's 16hh (maybe a bit more, and carries himself bigger!), you may remember meeting him at RAGW the year before last on his first time out he was a very opinionated dark dapple grey, and you gave us both plenty of encouragement whilst I was attempting to work him in. And then you showed us how it should be done by beating us in the ring !
If Sert is doing well in Small Hunter classes, think of the fun you can have when the same opinionated people will tell you that an Arab would look out of place in a Hunter class - show him as a Small Hunter in one class, remove the plaits and straight into the Ridden Arab class , even better if he gets placed in both - it would leave them looking  , and you  . Enjoy!
Jayne. |
| FullCircle |
Posted - 15 Aug 2011 : 6:09:45 PM
Before I got my lovely PB, I had a lovely Welsh D mare with fantastic breeding. However, she was NOT typey at all. I attempted to do some local showing with her and I was asked if she was a part bred. She was a bit too tall, not a whole lotta top line, not too fat (!) and a rather leggy girl at 15.1. I started doing dressage and she and I had a knack for it so kept doing it. I fancied showing again, but decided to do her as a small hunter - pulled her mane and tail, clipped her feathers off, and had a friend plait her up (cos I just can't!). She sooo suited it. So rather than be frustrated by snide comments about her lack of type (I'm not blind) I just embraced what she's got. I had sooooo many people comment about my lovely hunter, is she an Irish cob?
Went from trying to do the MM and not doing it very well
to this and doing much better ! :)
WHile I agree that life is too short to worry about other's opinions, that's kind of what showing is about. Make the most of what he's got and enjoy it ! |
| numbbum |
Posted - 15 Aug 2011 : 5:35:37 PM
Please just enjoy him and the time you have with him. Life is to short to worry about other people's opinions. My biggest regret is not having to be able to have horses in my life over the past years. Treasure each moment. You never know when things will be brought to an end. xxx |
| jaj |
Posted - 15 Aug 2011 : 4:11:49 PM
George don't be mad or upset, I think the problem is that a lot of people may have read this thread but not the other one about the mix up so not put two and two together.
It sounds as though there were just a lot of crossed wires and nobody would want either you or Sarah upset.
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| barbara.gregory |
Posted - 15 Aug 2011 : 1:59:53 PM
As I hadn't read the comments to Sarah I was not critising anyone in partcular, just anyone who would deliberately spoil someone elses day. Sarah and Sert won the class, end of conversation.
A few years ago my friend asked me to take a couple of my SE mares to the UKEE show so that they could have some fun handling them. I don't normally show but took them and they had a great time. The daughter, Sam, had entered the young handlers class and no one else turned up. The judges were great and gave her much longer than she would have had if there had been other entries. Needless to say she won the class and was so chuffed. It is up to the competitors to get to the ring in time for the class.
Many years ago someone at the livery yard where I kept my horses was in a part bred class and the judge put her gelding down the line saying he was too much like a purebred! He was lovely and, yes, very like a purebred.
Barbara |
| Mags |
Posted - 15 Aug 2011 : 1:44:47 PM
"Im sorry your horse isnt araby enough"
that had me laughing!
Im pretty new to arabs having just bought my first arab so feel free to ignor me but I was interested and suprised when my friend showed me a book on arabs she has with lot of old photos of arabs from years ago. Not a 'typey' head or whatever that is in sight. Some looked much more like tb's and even warmbloods than the arab im used to see now
I think your arab is gorgeous, id love to see a full picture |
| rpk2006 |
Posted - 15 Aug 2011 : 11:36:32 AM
I was once told in an inhand pure bred class....."Im sorry your horse isnt araby enough"
Excuse me. He is a purebred
Well done on your results Onwards and upwards!!!
K xxx |
| navaho621 |
Posted - 15 Aug 2011 : 10:44:06 AM
Sounds like lots of crossed wires, we now have 2 upset forum members :(
Sarah, i have the same problem with my old boy, hes doesnt look full Arab, but you know what, i couldnt give a monkeys what anyone else says about him. Hes MY horse & love i him to bits, i could not ask for a nicer, kinder more genuine horse than him & if people dont like him they can stick themselves where the sun doesnt shine! Sert is a lovely boy & if you want to show him as a purebred then do so, please dont be put off, the 2 shows ive taken my old boy to this year we have been down the end of the line but i dont really care, he enjoys it & my daughter enjoys it! This is what its meant to be about, how big is her smile :)
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| Callisto |
Posted - 15 Aug 2011 : 10:38:43 AM
George, If you look further up the thread Sarah has posted that she has had a lovely apology (I assume that was from you), it appears to all have been an unfortunate misunderstanding, and I am sure that you were not mean to Sarah. Horse shows can be somewhat frustrating, with classes either being delayed or rushed through (I know, we were supporting our local riding club show yesterday - what a lot of effort for 3 classes , and if we were taking it seriously we would have been rather miffed, because all the prizes were given to the children regardless of what their beloved horse/pony looked like). |
| george |
Posted - 15 Aug 2011 : 10:27:11 AM
OMG!! Can I just put some of you straight, Sara thinks that I was talking about her horse and her, my fault!! I listened to others and thought that the only exhibit in the Arab class was the lady who talked to me...that's it if any body cares to take a look at said posts they will see that I held my hands up and never once said it was anyone else's fault than our own for missing the class, Neither have I said anything about her horse, I apologised numerous times, but am now wondering why as I seem to have been made to look as though I have been mean to Sara. I did not even see her there my only crime is having a rant because the show rushed the Arabs through again which tends to be the norm around here. I was going to bump up the Pontardulais post as we WILL be losing this show but I won't bother now, this whole thing has been blown ridiculously out of proportion as I did not even mention Sara or Sert let alone know they were at the show, I have said this to Sara numerous times and I am not going to continue apologising, before you judge me take a look at the post Llanedi show!! |
| TanyanChewy |
Posted - 15 Aug 2011 : 10:11:23 AM
Oh Sarah don't be sad. Your boy is just lovely and its great to see you doing so well. I for one really enjoy reading your posts and photo updates and look forward to hearing many more in the future. x |
| parrot |
Posted - 15 Aug 2011 : 10:04:46 AM
maybe the person that was rude to you was ignorant about arabs so feel sorry for him,as he did not realise how many different types of arab there are,and they all look completely different eg a crabbett and an egyptian,maybe the poor man on the sidelines needs an education offer to buy him a book next time you see him |
| Pop |
Posted - 15 Aug 2011 : 10:03:02 AM
Yes Barbara, absolutely; and anyhow, I don't see how its a competitors job to say when the class starts, or look around for other possible competitors, if the Steward had seen them and went ahead anyway, well .....
Moatside: she is stunning, beautiful graceful girl. |
| Nut |
Posted - 15 Aug 2011 : 09:56:39 AM
I used to love reading your posts on you and sert, keep them coming and enjoy. It is not anyones responsibility but ones own to get to a show and the ringside on time.
Stewards have a list of entries they can choose to wait or not, no one elses call.
Well done and carry on having fun. |
| barbara.gregory |
Posted - 15 Aug 2011 : 09:55:07 AM
"Wanted this to be a yeah sert did well post but all I want to do is cry"
How Sad. There are always people who will try to burst your bubble; don't let them do it. Hold your head up and be proud of yourself and your horse. It is usually small minded people who get some sort of pleasure in spoiling others happiness. I haven't read the other posts but even if you had seen them running up and down how on earth would you have known that they were supposed to be in the same class as you.
You both look lovely and not all Arabs are "show" types. He is a lovely colour, wish some of my "pretty" greys were that lovely dark bay (although they do try hard when it's muudy, bless them)!
Good look and SMILE, nothing will upset the "nasties" more than knowing that they haven't managed to spoil your win.
Barbara
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| Arachnid |
Posted - 15 Aug 2011 : 09:49:32 AM
But think of all those times when you dont get marked down for having an arab because the judge doesnt know what shes looking at....I reckon we get a good 6 marks taken off at the beginning of every dressage test for being rather typey!
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| moatside |
Posted - 15 Aug 2011 : 09:45:12 AM
Sarah, Sert is a lovely boy! Continue to be proud of him and do not be put off taking him out in hand or ridden as a Purebred - my mare has not got an "exotic" head but she does really well when we go out and about - as you can see she is far from exotic!!
An Arab is soooooo much more than a pretty head (a pretty head is merely the icing on the cake!) and at the end of the day you cannot ride a head |
