| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| MinHe |
Posted - 15 Mar 2011 : 4:15:12 PM
...that not enough people came forward this year to fill all the places on Council? It says a lot about the present state of things.
Keren |
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| debs |
Posted - 19 Mar 2011 : 8:11:38 PM
Sorry Keren, was being negative knickers last night, had some bad news! It's good that you care, just hope it makes a difference  |
| garnet |
Posted - 19 Mar 2011 : 2:55:35 PM
I always voted during the 20 years I was a member but eventually, when yet another letter to the AHS went unacknowledged, I realised I was wasting my money, particularly as a PBA owner. I find it very sad that the AHS has changed so much since I first became a member in 1987. |
| phoenixbruka |
Posted - 19 Mar 2011 : 12:34:24 PM
[right]Originally posted by alistair leslie
Grassroots
Council members cannot communicate effectively with members on a low budget
It makes sense to meet to build up the local AHS first and organic growth will follow .
Where for example will new recruits come from ? Potentially from newcomers seeing an Arab for the first time at a local show .
Where are the bodies to grow the Society? Locally
And so on -countless reasons why we must devolve and grow .
The future is about shared values socially , nationally and politically and the AHS is subject to that too.
How difficult would it be to have E Mail news items from Windsor house and the regions ,for example ,generating interest?
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I think this is a really good idea and very valid point
susie |
| Delyth |
Posted - 19 Mar 2011 : 12:00:16 PM
Wishful thinking from Keren I think !!
I take very little notice of anything AHS these days so I must admit I thought the Goodhew report had been published - obviously not !! How much did it cost does anyone know ?? Just wondered how many of my registrations paid for it !!
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| MinHe |
Posted - 19 Mar 2011 : 11:51:26 AM
Yes, Sue is right - I'm showing my age, LOL!
Keren |
| SueN |
Posted - 19 Mar 2011 : 11:35:17 AM
Slight Freudian slip me thinks!
I'm sure that MinHe meant Malvern |
| Sadika |
Posted - 19 Mar 2011 : 09:52:05 AM
Am I missing something here - what happened at Ascot? |
| BabsR |
Posted - 19 Mar 2011 : 09:39:31 AM
Valid Question MinHe....."If the Goodhew report into what happened at Malvern was paid for out of AHS funds, then the membership surely have a right to see it, regardless of its conclusions. Council should be accountable for how they spend the money we give them"
as usual......keeping the Members in the dark springs to mind!!
Babs
www.SunrayAngloArabianStud.co.uk
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| Indalo |
Posted - 19 Mar 2011 : 09:17:31 AM
Damned if you do, Damned if you don't springs to mind! |
| MinHe |
Posted - 19 Mar 2011 : 12:05:39 AM
It matters that you receive the services that you pay for - and it matters that you should have a say in how the money you pay is spent. I am amongst those with "far more important things to worry about", but I still care about these things.
If the Goodhew report into what happened at Ascot was paid for out of AHS funds, then the membership surely have a right to see it, regardless of its conclusions. Council should be accountable for how they spend the money we give them.
Keren |
| debs |
Posted - 18 Mar 2011 : 10:04:23 PM
In the grand scheme of things does this actually matter? It seems to go on and on.
There are far more important things to worry about for a great deal of people... sorry if I am being negative. I guess it's all relative... |
| MinHe |
Posted - 18 Mar 2011 : 7:19:01 PM
Just as a matter of interest, what is the minimum number of votes needed to pass a resolution at the AGM? Is it a fixed number, or just a % of those attending?
Keren |
| jas |
Posted - 18 Mar 2011 : 4:50:18 PM
Someone wrote "What is missing in the report and accounts 2010, is any reference to the Goodhew report. How much longer do members have to wait to see the report - let alone know the cost and outcome".
Can someone please tell me, if council members have had the report since November, why has no statement been issued? Has it been resolved? If so, does anyone know the outcome?
Maybe a copy of the report will be available at the AGM! If not, why not? |
| CINDERS |
Posted - 18 Mar 2011 : 12:01:36 PM
I think both Sue and Alistair have made valid points, committee work is time consuming and when one comes up against constant brick walls very frustrating. Not to mention the expense
Equally I agree with Alistair that those of us, and this is I bleive the majority, who have arabs as a hobby on a budget do not feel that our needs are addressed. When we had the regional groups there was a perfect opportunity to elect a member from each group to attend council and from those members would be elected the various committees. It works for dogs and cats so why not for arabs and ensures that the grassroots views and needs are at least looked at. It also gives the local groups mor incentive to promote the arab if they feel they have a voice and that they are backed up from above anf further can be an effective way of reducing costs.
That said those on council and the committes do work hard for no reward.
Yvonne
Yvonne |
| Julie Bridges |
Posted - 18 Mar 2011 : 11:25:30 AM
Someone wrote "What is missing in the report and accounts 2010, is any reference to the Goodhew report. How much longer do members have to wait to see the report - let alone know the cost and outcome".
Is this the report about the alleged incident at the Malvern Show 18 months ago? If so why is it still rumbling on? If it was paid for by members' money, surely it should be published - unless the report's findings are too uncomfortable. Shouldn't members be told either way?
I was a bit surprised to see on the voting papers an "x" against the three council nominees. Surely as there are 4 vacancies, then the 3 should be appointed automatically.
Good luck to all the candidates. |
| alistair leslie |
Posted - 18 Mar 2011 : 09:35:49 AM
Grassroots
Council members cannot communicate effectively with members on a low budget
It makes sense to meet to build up the local AHS first and organic growth will follow .
Where for example will new recruits come from ? Potentially from newcomers seeing an Arab for the first time at a local show .
Where are the bodies to grow the Society? Locally
And so on -countless reasons why we must devolve and grow .
The future is about shared values socially , nationally and politically and the AHS is subject to that too.
How difficult would it be to have E Mail news items from Windsor house and the regions ,for example ,generating interest?
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| weirton |
Posted - 18 Mar 2011 : 09:21:24 AM
Sue, Yes I've done that.
Jean |
| SueB |
Posted - 18 Mar 2011 : 08:58:45 AM
I think Kimzi has hit the nail on the head.
It must be very frustrating to have ideals that will need a committees vote behind you before you can hope to see them happen.
I'm sure some council members sit on their hands wishing they could act alone but it's a committee like any other and I bet so frustratingly slow and at times nothing seems to happen or get done.
Jean if you look at your voting papers there is still a vote needed for one Direct candidate to Shows and Events Committee and of course the two candidates who are standing for president, one of those will need your vote....
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| debs |
Posted - 18 Mar 2011 : 07:59:12 AM
And will no doubt continue as it is for many years to come.... especially as no doubt people will continue to pay for the privilege. |
| MinHe |
Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 11:25:23 PM
Some of us have come forward in order to try to represent the majority of the membership, but sadly have not got anywhere. The so-called 'People's Voice' was unfortunately no such thing, which is why a number of us would not associate ourselves with it. And I think the events of the last few years have been a major 'turn off' for many who would like to see change but have no realistic hope of achieving it.
I don't think the voting structure will change any time soon, as the status quo is so obviously in favour of those presently in power. "By their actions ye shall judge them."
Jamie, your experience was inexcusable. The AHS deserves to fade into oblivion if it can do no better than that.
I don't blame the staff at Windsor House, but the policymakers who could do so much more, yet chose not to serve the grassroots who actually pay for the AHS.
Keren |
| jamie |
Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 9:56:15 PM
I joined the AHS when I first got my boy out of curiosity more than anything else. They cashed my cheque but beyond that nothing was received. I didn't, obviously, renew. I have no idea what this organisation is supposed to represent nor any idea of it's function. Just a note of my experience. |
| kimzi |
Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 9:45:37 PM
Unfortunateley i can understand the lack of candidates, we have just had our local riding club AGM ( i shall not mention names lol), we have gone from a commitee of 4 to 9, i swore that i would not stand for commitee but have taken the unenviable position of chair and it is a thankless task, i have already put in far too many hours for my own good and am sick to death of the indecision and squabbling caused by those on commitee who are activeley competitive and out for their own gain and not the interests of the general membership, i am close to the point of resignation and this is a small organisation nothing at all in comparison to the AHS. |
| lisa rachel |
Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 7:41:01 PM
Well said Templars, we get who we vote for. |
| templars |
Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 7:15:19 PM
I'll definitely be voting - always have and always will whilst I'm a member. I feel it's my duty as a member and even if people I vote for aren't elected then at least I've tried. To misquote - all it takes for some to succeed is for others to do nothing.
I'm a little intrigued about the nomination and voting process though - can someone please enlighten me? How do you nominate someone and when does the nomination have to be in? I can think of a couple of people I'd definitely like to nominate (with their permission of course) but I don't know what the process is. But if I know what and when, I'll definitely nominate for next time round. |
| weirton |
Posted - 17 Mar 2011 : 5:07:27 PM
Thanks Jude,
Obvious really. I can't think why I didn't think of that. Losing the plot I think (or the will to live).
I agree new blood needed and a good shake up.
Jean |
