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george Posted - 18 Jun 2010 : 10:08:05 PM
When I fell in love with Arabs as a teenager (gonna be 40 in a few weeks, ouch!!) I loved their little paint brush tails and I am sure if the horse is turned out naturally then am I right in thinking it will stay nice and short, and in my opinion looks perfect,but when did they start getting soooo long?? I shall go hide now in case I've upset anyone (not my intention, honestly)
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Cate Posted - 24 Jun 2010 : 3:36:15 PM
Lanabanana...Sorry don't know your name, but thank you for the info. Ahanu does when roused put his tail over his back.
Milotkha Posted - 24 Jun 2010 : 1:54:41 PM
Can I ask this without being jumped on...

Now, I love long manes and tails.. dont get me wrong, but is CAS Saburs tail real? its amazing but I havent been close enough to know if its real or extensions.

Sorry if I have offended anyone
Lanabanana Posted - 24 Jun 2010 : 1:24:52 PM
Cate, I think your boys mane and tail is inherited from his mum, Jiwan had an incredibly thick and dare I say coarse mane and tail, however she had an extreme tail carriage and would flip her tail over her back at the drop of a hat
I personally don't like overly long tails or manes for that matter, tails which are naturally down to the ground are fine, but dragging the ground must surely be cultivated by plaitng and or the use of tail bags. When my stallion was younger his tail touched the ground and to my horror he regularly pulled chunks out of it by stepping backwards onto it.
As someone else said they can make the hindquarters appear weak and a ridiculously long mane does nothing for the appearance of the shape of the neck JMHO of course.
Cate Posted - 24 Jun 2010 : 12:37:19 PM
I must say my stallion, who only has one line to Hanan, Delyth, so could there be a link?, and is bay has an incredibly thick and heavy mane and tail. His tail drives me nuts when washing it and I have only once seen him carry it like a banner, usually carrying it to the side. Needless to say when I was washing it recently and he stood on it for the umpteenth (sp) time I cut it and cut too much off. So now am trying to thin it and make it look natural.

I hate to see tails trailing along the ground, what purpose does it serve. Neither of my mares tails ever seem to grow long and neither are thick. When I had Gwinivine who was by LM Luval out of Garmon a Russian mare her tail was always carried upright or over her back especially when she was in foal for the first time she was just so pleased with herself. She had very little tail and when I sold her the lady asked if it would ever grow thicker, unfortunately the answer was no, but it always looked fabulous in the air when she strutted her stuff.
lisa rachel Posted - 21 Jun 2010 : 10:19:48 PM
Originally posted by leiat8

all horses are different and having a very long thick tail (fargo,sunny) or a wispy short tail(hex), is another special part of them as an individual. i think there all beautiful in there own special way

I agree , would never 'bag' trim or pull an Arab tail.
Vera Posted - 21 Jun 2010 : 6:04:43 PM
Personally I don't like overlong tails but I have to admit that last winter, for the first time I bagged Dennis's tail, and I will most likely bag it this winter. Simply it is so much easier to keep clean - but we are talking greys here! My fields are clay and really get tails that horrible grimey colour, even after washing.
BeckyBoodle Posted - 21 Jun 2010 : 5:31:01 PM
Eba's tail grows to the ground without me doing anything to it. In the winter when it was wet it was trailing in the mud and forming a ball of mud on the end. Do what I might I couldn't get it to stay plaited, or tied up, or plaited and tied up so the scissors came out and I trimmed it about fetlock height. It was a real shame. She has quite a long mane too apart from the bit her rug rubbed out which now stands up like a mohecan (sp?). Again I don't do anything to it in the summer, but in the winter spray it with masses of mane and tail to stop the little balls of mud and fairy plaits (dreadlocks reallys) forming and twigs getting stuck in it. I love the little sun bleached bits at the end. I guess that in an ideal show world I should put a anti bleach rug on her to keep her black, but she is happier without so she bleaches brown in the summer and goes black again in the winter.

B

leiat8 Posted - 21 Jun 2010 : 4:43:13 PM
i can see every ones point of view but IMO like people, all horses are different and having a very long thick tail (fargo,sunny) or a wispy short tail(hex), is another special part of them as an individual. i think there all beautiful in there own special way
george Posted - 21 Jun 2010 : 4:20:55 PM
Littlearabians... In my case "paintbrush tail" just happens to be a phrase my mother used to say when talking about her arab mare, it was probably her made up name for them but it has sort of stuck with me for years I like it as I think it described Zara's tail perfectly!!!
barbara.gregory Posted - 20 Jun 2010 : 10:37:49 PM
Sacriledge, what a crime, shame on you Delyth. Gorgeous mare apart from the tail!!!!!!!

Barbara
Delyth Posted - 20 Jun 2010 : 11:36:20 AM


This is her thinned out - it just gets incredibly thick. If you baggged it there would be miles of it !! It's very strong hair too, doesn't seem to break. JMO I don't like it so I chop it off !!
Delyth Posted - 20 Jun 2010 : 11:26:49 AM
I don't mean I like wispy tails !! Just that the Russians seem to have less tail and can flip them better than anything. I like a natural look of tail.....I really don't like the dragging on the floor behind look. My Salaa El Dine daughter has an incredibly thick tail and long if I'd let it and I'm forever thinning it. It makes her look coarse - if that makes sense !!
sayeeda Posted - 20 Jun 2010 : 10:53:52 AM
Barbara

I can only live in hope

Claire xx
misterei Posted - 20 Jun 2010 : 10:49:47 AM
Hi LittleArabians

I think this is what people mean by Paintbrush tail, but I might be wrong, (if so somebody is bound to correct me)

I am always waiting for hers to grow like our others but it never does. They all live out most of the year, except winter nights and hot summer days, if possible. One with the longest tail treads on it in winter and it does ball up with mud. We tend to wash it when it is really disgusting and to remove the brambles when they get caught up in it, but leave it to nature unless it is tangled, same with the manes, call me lazy...

it must be personal preference for length as our are all Russian bred and have different length tails


barbara.gregory Posted - 19 Jun 2010 : 10:32:16 PM
Sayeeda

With hair extensions, yes!

Barbara
Evie Posted - 19 Jun 2010 : 10:02:43 PM
Tara's tail touches the ground when she's at a standstill, as soon as she moves though it rises up so she doesn't tread on it at all. If I saw anyone near it with scissors I'd be very angry!!
sayeeda Posted - 19 Jun 2010 : 6:52:59 PM
Why cant my arab's have lovely long tails like 'Ali' his is beautiful Praague my Polish boy has a fairly long thick tail Sayeeda my Crabbett has a shortish wispy tail Do you think if i washed them with Pantenne (sp) they would have hair like Cheryl Cole???
littlearabians Posted - 19 Jun 2010 : 6:34:38 PM
sitting here thinking if I'm a bit thick... what is a little paint brush tail??? would anyone post a picture please
barbara.gregory Posted - 19 Jun 2010 : 6:20:09 PM
Can't think I have ever disagreed with you, Delyth, but we will agree to disagree on this one. Hate little wispy tails. My old gelding had a lovely long tail until he was in a field of cows and they ate most of it. It never did grow back to it's original glory. He was a flaxen chestnut and it was gorgeous.

Barbara
george Posted - 19 Jun 2010 : 5:03:18 PM
Originally posted by Delyth

I hate it ....... sorry !! I think it affects the tail carriage and can make the tail set appear lower. The best tail carrying Arabians are the Russians and they usually only have a few wisps !!!
I love little paint brush tails too, I think they look perfect and totally suit the Arabian horse
Jamana Posted - 19 Jun 2010 : 4:27:15 PM
IMO a long tail makes a horse look weak behind.

Though it can also hide a multitude of sins....................
Roseanne Posted - 19 Jun 2010 : 3:03:00 PM
Sorry to be 'functional' about it but I think the natural way for any horse is that its tail grows until a few hairs get trodden on and pulled out so it should stay a natural length - which if you pull it around should just about reach its shoulder (or so) and thus be able to protect it against flies.

I'm not happy about too much plaiting and bagging, especially outside for that reason.

I tend to agree with Delyth about the aesthetics too. A very long tail (as seen in stable kept show horses that never do go out with a natural tail to protect it) can really affect the proportion of the horse, and as Delyth says, the tail-set.

I've known of horses whose tails have been 'bagged' (as we were once instructed to do at a showing seminar - plaited, wrapped in vetwrap, tied up and kept like that all winter in a bag with some frayed string on the end to act as the tail when it swished) that have got their 'tail' caught and pulled the lot out! Hence tail to the dock and having to grow all over again.

It's a bit of an 'overload' to my mind.
JuliaB Posted - 19 Jun 2010 : 2:40:46 PM
I totally agree Liv!
LIV Posted - 19 Jun 2010 : 2:09:27 PM
Do you mean like this?




Ali's tail was bagged over winter and it just kept growing. It looked lovely when he was ridden as it just skimmed the ground when he held his tail up so I left it. I have now trimmed it so it's a few inches off the ground when it's not plaited!

Some people hate it but I'm not apologising for it as it's all down to personal taste
Mrs DJ Posted - 19 Jun 2010 : 10:50:30 AM
My mares tail touches the floor when she's at rest. She sometimes self trims it, by stepping backwards onto it.
However, she carries it much higher when we're out riding - no chance of her standing on it then!!


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