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| Berryscroft |
Posted - 26 Aug 2008 : 9:32:38 PM
We have been lucky enough to have recently acquired the 100% Crabbet Stallion 'Winged Saint' but have little information or knowledge of his previous 'life' ! He is a truly lovely boy and we wondered if anyone out there knows of any of his progeny and what they have achieved - we do know of Silver Brocade and his fillies bred by Kay Firth-Butterfield but nothing prior to these foals. Can anyone enlighten me please ? ? ?
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| Athena |
Posted - 04 Jul 2009 : 6:28:34 PM
Thanks for the good luck wishes - I've got everything crossed so hard I'm in knots!
Definitely go see him folks. Great horse and he won't be around forever. |
| rosie |
Posted - 04 Jul 2009 : 4:05:53 PM
I'm another that would like to go & see him.I have a Crabbet mare,Rose Alba, that am considering putting in-foal again next year?
I think the 2 bloodlines would nick well together?
I DO like the crabbets!
Lisa |
| mogwai |
Posted - 04 Jul 2009 : 3:39:08 PM
He looks fabulous! I kep trying to find the time to get up there and see him....!
Best of luck with Narishka, if this foal is half as good as leo, it'll be a cracker!
Ros |
| Athena |
Posted - 04 Jul 2009 : 3:17:58 PM
Just to update you all, Winged Saint now has three mares in foal for 2010 babies so obviously firing on all cylinders still! Claire's Domanita is one so congratulations Claire. In fact the only one who is being less co-operative is my own Narishka - but I'm sure we'll get there.
The Atkinson's fabulous Crabbet mare Shadowed Gold is also in foal and, give how lovely her Hanson son is, would it be wicked of me to hope it might be a colt?! Sorry! |
| Athena |
Posted - 03 Jun 2009 : 2:54:40 PM
OK finally gave up on my old Flikr account - they've lost me! I've started a new account. All so I can share with you all a few snaps taken at Seren Arabians - Winged Saint's new home.
This is Winged Saint just last Friday - so gorgeous.
And his exquisite daughter Silver Serendipity (from Silver Ingot).
And this is my own Narishka enjoying Dom and Jan's hospitality.
Hope you all enjoy. |
| Athena |
Posted - 31 May 2009 : 11:30:22 AM
Hi Everyone, Went to visit Saint again but in his new home with Dom & Jan Atkinson at Seren Arabians on Friday. What a place! The views are nearly as gorgeous as the horses!
My precious Narishka is very settled and running out with Claire's Domanita - I'll send you some snaps Claire. Saint is just across the fence line with another two mares with him - he calls by periodically just to see if Narishka is feeling "friendly" yet!
No exaggeration - both these stallions (Winged Saint and Hanson) are just so easy and sweet to be around - the human hospitality isn't bad either. Had the most wonderful day - thank you Dom & Jan. Still adore Winged Saint - he has to be my favourite Crabbet stallion in the UK right now. Fingers crossed I get a baby as gorgeous as Caroline's colt or the exquisite Silver Serendipity who I also met on Friday. Last saw the latter as a foal at Kay's but she is even more beautiful now.
Use Winged Saint everyone! |
| Berryscroft |
Posted - 24 May 2009 : 10:55:09 PM
Hi Dom and Jan,
Keep all the news coming - I'm so glad this thread has been picked up again ! An oldie but goodie, eh ?
Give Saint a big hug and kiss from Me and Michelle. 
Fingers crossed for a positive first pregnancy diagnosis !
I look forward to hearing any more news of Saint.
Terri x
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| kastell |
Posted - 24 May 2009 : 11:27:20 AM
Hi all my mare Dominita is with Seren Arabians & has been covered by Winged Saint, fingers crossed she will take!
Can't wait to see how her foal will turn out, as it will be double Wright bred as her sire Silver Blue Ludo (Silver Blue x Golden Ludo(full brother to Golden Silver)) was bred by the Wrights too! He is also still with us (24 this year!) & like Winged Saint is a Dajania line stallion, with multiple lines to Ludo & Blue Domino. He also boasts a fantastic temperament, has a beautiful big eye, good conformation & can really move!!! There are pics of him on Mrs Carpenters website, if you Google Nomadarabians, the web address should come up. I am sure that you will agree he is also someone very special!! I am also sure if Mrs Carpenter had enough demand she would get his semen frozen (he is based in France).
Had a look on the Binley Stud website & her colt by Winged Saint is gorgeous! |
| Sirius |
Posted - 24 May 2009 : 01:38:57 AM
Just to confirm that Saint's stud career is back up and running, and that he is being a perfect gentleman with his mares and with us. Taking nothing for granted, we hope for his first pregnancy diagnosis of this year in a fortnight.
However, a warning to us all to keep breeding through the recession if we can: shrinking gene pools can lead to all sorts of conformational defects. Quite a shock to see this out of the kitchen window at breakfast on Monday:
Narishka; Pushmepullyou (Dominita + Shadowed Gold); Seren Canopus Hanifa; Winged Saint. {Average Crabbet percentage: 100.00} Apologies for the rain, also 100% at the time.
Luckily there are less alarming outcomes, too: www.binleystud.com/news.html
We are hoping to train Saint for AI once his coverings are complete. 2 more mares lined up for June coverings, then he can get back to mooching for a while before training commences.
We can't believe our luck in bringing him here. Two stallions of impeccable temperament at the same time. We are currently using both Saint and Hanson to help someone to overcome their severe fear of horses.
Much more later if people would like to know what is happening.
Dom and Jan Atkinson,
Seren Arabians
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| Athena |
Posted - 19 May 2009 : 10:51:46 PM
Nice to see this topic reappearing on AL. Thought any of you interested in these lines might like to know that my 100% Crabbet mare Narishka is currently in Cumbria visiting Saint - fingers crossed. The Atkinsons at Seren Stud and their vet are being wonderful, checking up on every detail of my mare's history in their determination to get everything right. I can certainly recommend the care and attention any visiting mare receives.
Also, the Atkinsons are seriously looking into making both Saint and their other 100% stallion Hanson available by AI next year - so do let them know if you are interested.
Saint has not had much opportunity at stud to date but, as well as Moulton Millenium sire of some of Gunni's lovely youngsters, he has also sired British National Ridden Champion Silver Brocade, a good endurance mare and a lovely filly Silver Serendipity, bred by Kay Firth-Butterfield, also now at the Atkinsons. I am hoping to get down to see Caroline Sussex's new colt by him out of Binley Silvern Grace soon too - piccies of him on the Binley Stud website and the Seren Stud website.
I know I've said this before but you really should use this horse folks. He really is something special. |
| Berryscroft |
Posted - 18 May 2009 : 8:12:04 PM
Thanks Jamana - I have emailed Jill with Saint's new home details.
Terri  |
| Jamana |
Posted - 18 May 2009 : 09:52:26 AM
Dear Helen,
I thought I would let you know personally, although you may have already heard that Winged Saint has found a new home - he will be standing at Seren Arabians, in Cumbria.
I don't know if you have decided to breed with your filly yet, but you can see him there if you would like to.
With best wishes,
Terri
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| Jamana |
Posted - 18 May 2009 : 09:50:08 AM
I don't *think* he is with those owners anymore. The Lady PM'd me a while ago to say he had moved. |
| Ivahri |
Posted - 17 May 2009 : 11:08:36 PM
Hi
I know this discussion is a little old. But Gunni led me to it as I was talking to her on another forum where she posted photos of her horses and new foals. So I followed the links to the all breeds info and Winged Saint appeared as grandsire to her colt.
I have been researching the Blue Domino/Ludo lines in Pure Crabbets as I love the Rissalix movement, but also the brains and saddle qualities of the Blue Domino horses. Here is Australia these lines are found through high percentage Crabbet/English bred horses via Royal Domino who was imported in utero to Australia. But even those are getting far and few. I have owned a Royal Domino grand daughter for over 22 years. She has been the best saddle horse, friend and herd boss. She started our new adventure with Arabians after we got married.
So when I came across Winged Saint and his lines close to Blue Domino and Ludo, plus he exhibits the look and type I am looking for. We have the Silver lines which he appears to breed well with. Plus our Pure Crabbet girl who is of the Shafreyn lines. Plus we are breeding mares owned by friends to her sire to hopefully get at least one filly. Whilst we are not totally Pure Crabbet breeders, we do breed high percentage Crabbets of the Silver Family who are Silver Fire dam lines.
I have loved all the photos of Winged Saint and what he produces, we hope it could be possible to be ecomonically viable for his owners to export semen by him. I know we have 3 mares we would like to use him with. Plus a couple of other breeders have shown interest.
Regards
Jill |
| Deboniks |
Posted - 09 Oct 2008 : 3:58:00 PM
Hi TerriWell, I can't wait for Alexcia to visit you with her camera again!! She is a great photographer and he's a stunning man Speak soon x |
| Berryscroft |
Posted - 09 Oct 2008 : 1:51:48 PM
Jamana and Nat: I have pm'd you both !
Terri |
| nat |
Posted - 08 Oct 2008 : 2:26:54 PM
he is stunning, we had a silent dove son, Silent Fire. We have his son and grandson now, We are moving to devon in the next month so would to come and visit and possibly take photos for you (am a budding photographer) Congrats on your lovely boy |
| Jamana |
Posted - 08 Oct 2008 : 1:39:53 PM
Whereabouts are you? I am *possibly* thinking of covering my filly at some point. As someonelse said, I am all over the place with ideas at the moment.... As I am breeding one to keep for my OH I am only intending to breed one. But there are at least 4 stallions i would like to use!! Perhaps you could PM me with term etc.
Thanks,
Helen |
| Athena |
Posted - 02 Oct 2008 : 4:11:18 PM
I have had all kinds of tips over the years on how best to get fillies - cider vinegar, covering only once etc! I am always willing to give them a go providing it is not likely to do my mare any harm. Actually the cider vinegar is good for Narishka's stiff shoulder anyway (from a field accident in 2002). So I promise to do my best to assist Saint in making that filly combination happen! And, if I get a colt, I'll just have to keep trying ... be warned!! |
| Berryscroft |
Posted - 01 Oct 2008 : 8:17:42 PM
Well, Alexia, you have been busy while I have been out of the parish ! ! Thank you so much for posting the pics of Saint - he said he will try his very best to give you the filly you requested, how could he not after all the nice things you have said about him ! !
Gunni, the photos of Lenny's children are lovely, I especially like GKV Marbon, he is very beautiful - that's him in your signature pics, isn't it ? The last photo of Sami is very lovely too - very elegant looking, I look forward to seeing her as a grown-up !
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| mogwai |
Posted - 01 Oct 2008 : 8:05:29 PM
Gorgeous gunni. I think she's smashing |
| Athena |
Posted - 01 Oct 2008 : 7:46:50 PM
I don't doubt for a minute Sami will end up a lovely mare Gunni. She looks as if she will have a fair bit of scope, she is certainly still elegant, and she probably just needs the time as you say to grow into herself - like a gawky teenager! Thanks for sharing. We'll hold you to an update once she has grown up. Alexia |
| gu-ku-vi |
Posted - 01 Oct 2008 : 11:52:52 AM
Oh Sami? . Sami was a very nice 3 day-3week-3months old filly, but right now she looks like one I should have sold cheap.
I give you this pics and will not do it again, I think, before she is 3 years old and then fit better together.
She is a different type, more slim, hard to have in good foodcondition, longlegged, high rumped, everything, But she is an exstremely good mover and she is so sweet allthough she is very indipendent, just like her mother.
I do hope and think, when she grows up, she will be a very good mare.
Bad hair day
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| Athena |
Posted - 01 Oct 2008 : 10:37:59 AM
Lenny's boys are both lovely Gunni - you must be delighted with them. And how is the filly doing? Do you have any updated piccies of her too? I must say that I have always thought Martini is beautiful and her boy does have a real elegance. And I still remember Meadley's granddam Shuhira too - wow, could she move! Great to know both Winged Saint and Diane's El Sharluke and Shuhira lines will get to breed on through Meadley. |
| nikki |
Posted - 01 Oct 2008 : 10:35:27 AM
Fingers firmly crossed for you and narishka, oh i do hope she gives you that important filly!
Gunni, they are wonderful, i'm hard pushed to pick a favourite, are you keeping them entire? |
