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| Rozy Rider |
Posted - 26 Oct 2009 : 10:29:40 AM
ZOOWAR,a Grey Arab stallion(NPS 513).Imported to England in 1910 from Arabia (Desert Bred) around 1908, standing 14.1h and Owned by Capt.Hon.George Saville,Hawnby Lodge, Hawnby, Yorkshire and where he stood at Stud. Photograph provided by Pelle's Mother, from Olympia Show 1912 (photo from International Horse Show). Wanted any information of off springs from this horse.etc.etc.
Thanks Sue
so far.
HALEB - Gr H 1918.(Zoowar/Gulrang) Helmsley,Yorkshire.
BAIDA2 gr M 1914 ZOOWAR HUSN-U-GUL ARABIAN
GRIZLE M ZOOWAR #
MALIKA9 ch M ZOOWAR SILVERTAIL8 PART-BRED ARAB
SHEJRET EDDUR b M 1913 ZOOWAR HUSN-U-GUL ARABIAN
YAKOOT gr H 1912 ZOOWAR HUSN-U-GUL ARABIAN
Rajah I, grey colt. 1911 ex Rose of Persia.
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| 10 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| Rozy Rider |
Posted - 09 Feb 2010 : 2:34:22 PM
Off Spring numbers growing.
BAIDA2 gr M 1914 ZOOWAR HUSN-U-GUL ARABIAN Edit
GREYLING5 gr H 1918 ZOOWAR GRAFINA8 PART-BRED ARAB Edit
GRIZLE M ZOOWAR # PART-BRED ARAB Edit
HALEB9 gr H 1918 ZOOWAR GULRANG ARABIAN Edit
LONIGO b M 1914 ZOOWAR FANNY PART-BRED ARAB Edit
MALIKA9 ch M 1915~ ZOOWAR SILVERTAIL8 PART-BRED ARAB Edit
PROGRESS18 ch H 1920 ZOOWAR SMART75 ANGLOARABIAN TB Edit
RAJAH20 gr C 1911 ZOOWAR ROSE OF PERSIA4 ARABIAN Edit
SHEJRET EDDUR b M 1913 ZOOWAR HUSN-U-GUL ARABIAN Edit
YAKOOT gr H 1912 ZOOWAR HUSN-U-GUL ARABIAN Edit
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| Pelle |
Posted - 28 Jan 2010 : 4:21:21 PM
Originally posted by Rozy Rider
Hi Melynda, Nice one, getting those early AHS.
Sorry to say its not the same HALEB, the one i'm interested in is/was a GREY, Foaled 1918, measured 14.0h.in 1922.(ZOOWAR/GULRANG-s. LAL I ABDAR/d.1750 KITTY NPS). This one appears in the NPS Vol. XXII pg.16 (& Vol.18 & 19) and was bred in Yorkshire, by the Earl of Mexborough, Arden Hall,Helmsley,Yorks & Owned by Capt.Hon George Savile.. Found no progeny yet.
Got anything in the early books relating to ZOOLKHPAR... and/or a sire for SILVERSPRAY ???.
After a colour for ZAFARAN 1906. H.( Feysal 1894/KASIDA 1891).
Also, Got anything on a Arthur McNaught,East Mascalls.Lingfield,Sussex.(NPS Member 1928.
Good Hunting.
Sue
Haleb 1918, grey,
Sire: Zoowar (Arab horse studbook vol I)
Dam: Gulrang, by Lal-i-Abdar, out of Kitty (Basuto mare, NPS Vol X, 1750)
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| Melynda |
Posted - 23 Nov 2009 : 6:35:57 PM
ZAFARAN 1906 by Feysul ex. Kasida
was chestnut, not in AHS but in GSB breeder was Crabbet Stud.
link to Kasida http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=177
Her daughter Kantara's off-spring are all chestnut according to AHS books. Don't know why Zafaran wasn't registered in it as well.
No Arthur McNaught anywhere so far.
The only AHS registered Silver Spray is the grey mare born 1958 by Silver Moonlight ex Eldoura. |
| Rozy Rider |
Posted - 20 Nov 2009 : 9:42:25 PM
Hi Melynda, Nice one, getting those early AHS.
Sorry to say its not the same HALEB, the one i'm interested in is/was a GREY, Foaled 1918, measured 14.0h.in 1922.(ZOOWAR/GULRANG-s. LAL I ABDAR/d.1750 KITTY NPS). This one appears in the NPS Vol. XXII pg.16 (& Vol.18 & 19) and was bred in Yorkshire, by the Earl of Mexborough, Arden Hall,Helmsley,Yorks & Owned by Capt.Hon George Savile.. Found no progeny yet.
Got anything in the early books relating to ZOOLKHPAR... and/or a sire for SILVERSPRAY ???.
After a colour for ZAFARAN 1906. H.( Feysal 1894/KASIDA 1891).
Also, Got anything on a Arthur McNaught,East Mascalls.Lingfield,Sussex.(NPS Member 1928.
Good Hunting.
Sue |
| Melynda |
Posted - 20 Nov 2009 : 6:13:49 PM
I've found a Haleb (imp DB) sire of Rhua (A.H.C). He appears in the breeding of Gitthera (1927) with an American breeder and owner.
P.S.
Sue, I've now got A.H.S studbooks Vol 1-13, 15. |
| Rozy Rider |
Posted - 20 Nov 2009 : 12:55:23 AM
Thanks for the info Bia.
I have no breeding for Kitty (Gulrang's dam) and Malika is only Part Bred, so both these are only part bred. Have you found any record of Gulrang she must have been born before Abu Zeyd(Lal I Abdar) landed in the USA.
Cheers Sue |
| Barabia |
Posted - 19 Nov 2009 : 9:31:31 PM
Hi Sue,
He has only four purebred Arabians registered:
Rajah 1911
Yakoot 1912
Shejret Eddur 1913
Baida 1914
(No Haleb out of Gulrang)!
Bia |
| Rozy Rider |
Posted - 19 Nov 2009 : 01:25:11 AM
Bia, Please could you do a last check for any other progeny for Zoowar.. He looks a lovely old boy at White City, sure he must have had a few more ladies before he passed on. I'd have thought they'd have been queuing up after seeing him there.
Thanks again, fingers crossed.
Sue |
| Rozy Rider |
Posted - 28 Oct 2009 : 9:33:41 PM
Well Done everyone great effort. looks like we've/ you've cracked it with ZOOWAR.
Adding your find to the all breeds R. to go with those listed at the top.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/zoowar
Thanks
Sue
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| Nimlat |
Posted - 26 Oct 2009 : 8:09:10 PM
ZOOWAR - bred in Arabia, sold to India where he won the Punjab Army Cup and Handicap Steeplechase in 1907 and many other races on the flat and over hurdles. Imp. to England 1910.
1st Eastern Sires P-RPS, London Show 1912. Destroyed 1920.
Sired one other (all I could find!)- Rajah I, grey colt. 1911
ex Rose of Persia.
From "The Arab Horse" by Peter Upton.
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