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debs
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Posted - 27 Sep 2016 :  2:42:32 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
More Arabian horses suffering abuse at the hands of. 'Breeder'. It's on Facebook but for some reason i can't copy the link. If no one else has done it by the time I get home I will have another go.

https://www.facebook.com/linda.lyall/posts/10154461940304534


Edited by - debs on 27 Sep 2016 9:22:23 PM
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joanna_piana
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Posted - 27 Sep 2016 :  3:13:23 PM  Show Profile  Click to see joanna_piana's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add joanna_piana to your friends list Send joanna_piana a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think there have been rumblings about these people for some time, I don't know them myself but have definitely read about them previously, can't remember if it was on here or FB but there were some heated arguments from their defenders. Guess they were misguided to say the least!


Harthall Rashida RIP, Binley Ishara, Bouchan
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 28 Sep 2016 :  10:45:49 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message  Reply with Quote
joanna_piana, I got abuse from people re the peels when I mentioned that things may not be OK there as I heard a rumour so couldn't broadcast it as I had just suspicions many, many years ago so there are always people who are taken in by them.

I don't know the people either but why do they not ask for help? It is sad for the horses but at least there isn't the enormous number of horses who have suffered at the hands of the peel family for years.

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FireLight
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Posted - 28 Sep 2016 :  12:06:28 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add FireLight to your friends list Send FireLight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My friend volunteers for Bransby and she says the mares are thriving. She wanted me to foster one but I am on livery and there aren't any spaces. I suppose they have been 'lucky' to have been found and are now safe.

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debs
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Posted - 28 Sep 2016 :  1:19:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's good news. Shame a out the dead ones :(

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debs
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Posted - 28 Sep 2016 :  9:49:43 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Take a look...
https://www.facebook.com/linda.lyall/posts/10154467683419534

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Paulette
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Posted - 29 Sep 2016 :  3:07:52 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Paulette to your friends list Send Paulette a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think there were Barbara. Believe she had upwards of 30.

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debs
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Posted - 29 Sep 2016 :  4:10:06 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What is it with these people, they were continually offered homes but obviously greed and ego stood in the way and they suffered, ultimately with the death of some.....

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azraa
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Posted - 29 Sep 2016 :  6:43:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add azraa to your friends list Send azraa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi,
does anyone know what horses died.
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debs
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Posted - 30 Sep 2016 :  09:08:50 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think if you go to first link it may take you to the Facebook thread, it mentions I think 2 names on there :(

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azraa
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Posted - 30 Sep 2016 :  6:19:30 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add azraa to your friends list Send azraa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks had a look does anyone know if kareemah. (Ah Sabina bey x adiggio) is dead, or sold ?
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debs
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Posted - 30 Sep 2016 :  6:52:43 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Will ask?

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debs
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Posted - 30 Sep 2016 :  8:03:13 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Azraa, she was sold a while ago and is safe :)

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FireLight
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Posted - 30 Sep 2016 :  8:35:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add FireLight to your friends list Send FireLight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The 4 mares at Bransby are doing well but only 2 will be eventually re-homed. Bransby are keeping two as they need medication for the rest of their lives so will stay at Bransby to be monitored. They do want very experienced 'Arab people' for the other 2.

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azraa
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Posted - 01 Oct 2016 :  12:43:17 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add azraa to your friends list Send azraa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you for letting me know, x
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debs
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Posted - 01 Oct 2016 :  04:47:46 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Let's hope that they find loving forever homes...

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azraa
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Posted - 01 Oct 2016 :  3:42:32 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add azraa to your friends list Send azraa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm sure they will. Upwards and onwards xx
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debs
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Posted - 29 Oct 2016 :  08:26:45 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote


What a piece of work.....
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/rebecca-mcevoy-five-year-ban-arab-neglect-602458#rjtMJ483rP4kYpgx.99


Edited by - debs on 29 Oct 2016 08:28:10 AM
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Goldenmane
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Posted - 29 Oct 2016 :  3:20:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Goldenmane to your friends list Send Goldenmane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Obviously it should be a ban for life, that poor baby on the floor. Yet certain other people surrounded by dead and suffering horses are still keeping them.

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debs
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Posted - 29 Oct 2016 :  6:56:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know....it's so wrong on every level. What's the answer.?

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Fee
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Posted - 29 Oct 2016 :  7:40:09 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Fee to your friends list Send Fee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Personally (and this will probably have you all screaming from the rafters) but the answer starts with stopping eating them. The very fact we kill and eat them shows our disregard for the animal kingdom from people in all walks of life from breeders to court of law judges.


Fee

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cmj
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Posted - 30 Oct 2016 :  2:44:59 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cmj to your friends list Send cmj a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The pictures of Emerald are truly shocking. What kind of person does this? Ignorance canīt be blamed as this piece of scum owner moved in high level showing circles it would seem. A trophy-hunting piece of sh*t is what springs to my mind.

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debs
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Posted - 30 Oct 2016 :  7:04:36 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Absolutely agree with that cmj

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natntaz
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Unfortunately people think just because people are well known or meant to be high profile in showing or breeders that it doesn't happen, it does and I think if horses are bred on a big scale lots are not up to standard and are not going to make huge money they become surplus to requirement. I really don't think it makes any difference people in all walks of life abuse or mistreat animals and it can be for all sorts of reasons. Quite often the horses have there day in the show ring or breeding and then they become something that is costing and then they end up neglected in fields .

I honestly believe studs/ showing and livery yards and anywhere horses livestock are kept should be checked on regular basis as we are hearing more and more of these horrific cases of abuse. Life bans and and imprisonment for people who abuse.
Often people know things they have heard about studs/riders and so on. If people thought that they were going to get named shamed and banned it really would make a difference.



Natalie Pix. Essex. Tariq ibn Radfan and Taroub
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 30 Oct 2016 :  10:41:49 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Often people know things they have heard about studs/riders and so on. If people thought that they were going to get named shamed and banned it really would make a difference".

Nantaz, I am not sure it would. As you say, the horses become yesterday's news and the new superstar is looked after and the old one forgotten and left to rot in a field or shut up in a barn. Anyone who does that is not an animal lover. My old mares are my treasures; such beautiful old ladies. They have given one or two foals over the years as I don't breed a lot and they have earned their keep and are much loved.

There should be a mandatory life ban for extreme cases and a prison sentence. I would exclude the very occasional owner who through dementia or other illness doesn't realise what is happening but then would hope that people would see what was going on and help.

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stuart
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Posted - 14 Dec 2016 :  3:42:57 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stuart to your friends list Send stuart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There should be Barbara..... the worst are those, that, pretend a situation.... and it is a lie? Your words " Rot in a field" are very strong... but apt?

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