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Pop
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Posted - 15 Jan 2015 :  1:04:42 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Pop to your friends list Send Pop a Private Message  Reply with Quote
.... on the subject of hip replacement? How long does it take to recover? How long would it be before its possible to ride again, specifically a quiet pony?

Anyone know anything about this issue? :)

Thanks in advance

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Kharidian
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Posted - 15 Jan 2015 :  2:09:53 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kharidian to your friends list Send Kharidian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My dad has had a hip replacement but he's not typical in that he also has to contend with the physical effects of MS and all he does with a horse is pat one of mine on the nose and give a carrot so I can't comment.

I have a friend who has certainly had at least a partial hip replacement and she rides regularly. If you PM me your mobile number/email address I could contact her on FB and ask her to get in touch if that would help?

Caryn

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aka "Roger".................................... aka "Chips"

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Callisto
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Posted - 15 Jan 2015 :  4:04:25 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Pop, is it your hip? Hope all is well with all your ponios

6 months according to this old thread, maybe Ruthie can update you on her husband's experience?

http://www.arabianlines.com/forum1/topic_new.asp?TOPIC_ID=47939

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debs
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Posted - 15 Jan 2015 :  5:45:22 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pop hope you ok??? I can't ride at mo...fell off, not Ali, done tendons in fingers. Grrrr so dull! :)

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Posted - 15 Jan 2015 :  5:55:06 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pasch to your friends list Send Pasch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Pop,I'm sorry to hear about this,however reading the thread by Ruthie it seems there would be no problem…My only experience is that of my landlord who at 80 used to be very active and walk at least an hour daily until he had to have a hip replacement because of pain,after a few months and at 81 now he's still walking his daily hour
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RUTHIE
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Posted - 15 Jan 2015 :  6:15:48 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RUTHIE to your friends list Send RUTHIE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Pop....good to talk with you. My husband had a left THR four years ago. He didn't ride for 6 months ( on my say so...lol!) we picked a quite day and he gently got back on his mare. Within ten minutes he was cantering her in the school. That summer he was doing fun rides and jumping. He has had no problems since. Eventually, his right one needs to be replaced.
The key, in the early days is to get mobile as quick as you can and to take the pain relief you are prescribed and be religious with the exercises the physioterrorist provides for you. He was 53 when he had the op. Recovery after a THR is quick and generally with no complications.
Good luck Pop. #128515;


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Ari
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Posted - 15 Jan 2015 :  7:15:13 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ari to your friends list Send Ari a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No personal experience other than having a friend that had both done at the same time at a very young age, he is inspirational and is 100% fit coaches junior football.
Craig Revel Horwood, had it and was back judging Strictly in a week and like him or not he can still dance.
I am sure people that are otherwise healthy regain 100% fitness.
I wish you all the very best
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Pop
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Posted - 15 Jan 2015 :  7:15:37 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pop to your friends list Send Pop a Private Message  Reply with Quote
6 months !!!!!! That doesn't work for me.

The original theory was that I had arthritis in my hip due to a rather savage auto immune disorder, but it seems that the two are not connected.

The long term back pain that I complain about (to a level of boring) was not in fact back pain at all, but was the result of a breaking my hip in a riding accident where I got dragged, and bounced. I hurt my shoulder and ankle but for whatever reason missed the hip issue and was back in the saddle some two weeks later, and was on prescription pain killers since that time for my back.

Unfortunately it seems that the break mended itself but blah blah blood supply, rabbit rabbit = "hip is finish". I had imagined that the solution was a quite jab in the hip with some drug and back to normal. I had planned my appeal for 'sports horse' treatment rather than 'hacking pony' supplements, but no, is an ex functioning hip, more of a troublesome stump. A finished hip.

The only consolation is that I'm a miracle of pain endurance that I never actually noticed the break in the first place, and that I was still riding 3 weeks ago, and that I am still walking about with what I would like to think of as only a slight limp.

My theory is that if I were able to do a 12 mile fun ride 2 weeks after breaking it, on a new horse, with a group of crazy hunt types, then I'm determined to that I will be back riding in 6 weeks, not 6 months, even if I have to ride the quiet 14hh Connie, or the nut case skinny type Arab Matylka (the Hun) who floats. And teach my riding partner to ride the barrel shaped chestnut arab mare until I can get aboard her again.

Mounting and dismounting from the offside will be my first challenge.

Is my plan good? Has it legs?

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Pop
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Posted - 15 Jan 2015 :  7:22:42 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pop to your friends list Send Pop a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ruthie, thank you. Can he recall when he felt able to ride again, rather than when you lifted your (well advised I think) 6 month restriction?

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lulu
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Posted - 15 Jan 2015 :  7:23:41 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lulu to your friends list Send lulu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OH had a hip replacement about 2 years ago wear and tear from being a postie. Our local doctors sent him private. He was in on the Saturday and out Sunday morning. Had to wear dreadful socks for a few weeks and not drive for 6 weeks but he sneaked outbefore that. He had exercises to do he walked round the village and was back to normal within a couple of months. Had to take several pills but that gradually cut down as well. Good luck.
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RUTHIE
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Posted - 15 Jan 2015 :  7:24:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RUTHIE to your friends list Send RUTHIE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We all heal differently. I was just cautious, because in the early days, the ball can slip out of the socket. Also time is good as this is pretty invasive surgery and it would be a shame to rush things. I watched a THR once when I worked on the wards. A lot of hammering and sawing. I still feel 6/12 is a good time frame for healing. Down to the individual in the long run I suppose. My husband said no way riding after 6 weeks post op. What would happen if you fell off so close after surgery....I shudder at the thought.


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Edited by - RUTHIE on 15 Jan 2015 7:45:28 PM
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RUTHIE
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Posted - 15 Jan 2015 :  7:26:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RUTHIE to your friends list Send RUTHIE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Pop....he said about four months after surgery he thought he could ride again.


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Pop
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Posted - 15 Jan 2015 :  7:32:18 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pop to your friends list Send Pop a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmmmm, the ball coming out of the socket thought made me wince a bit. Would that hurt, or would your leg just dangle? Would they just put it back, or is it a bit more complicated than that.?

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RUTHIE
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Posted - 15 Jan 2015 :  7:44:30 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RUTHIE to your friends list Send RUTHIE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sure it would hurt and back into surgery for repair. I worked on a ward where THR was a regular thing. I use to take care of the patient post op. It's important in the care of post op healing....avoiding wound and bone infection. Just my opinion and experience. Perhaps I was too cautious, but my husbands recovery was brilliant. Time is needed for the implant to bed in. Ceramic is the best to have btw.


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Pop
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Posted - 15 Jan 2015 :  10:11:32 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pop to your friends list Send Pop a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you Ruthie, I guess I will have to learn to balance sensible with impatient ...

Ceramic sounds good, will I not clink as I walk thou?

And another hopefully sensible question, I'm thinking that I should try to maintain strong muscles, guessing that would be significant in recovery. Is it worth pushing thru discomfort to keep strong muscles?

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Callisto
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Posted - 15 Jan 2015 :  10:55:43 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I thought ceramic meant similar to those whizzy new frying pans that are very slidey - superior non stick, rather than something made from something similar to a high class teapot, but forgive me if I am wrong. Sounds painful Pop, and I hope you have the best outcome possible, and don't overdo it too soon, the thought of you being stuck on a horse with your leg dangling in the wind because it has popped out of its socket sounds very painful

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RUTHIE
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Posted - 16 Jan 2015 :  08:34:53 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RUTHIE to your friends list Send RUTHIE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ceramic is the hardest material to use....can last 15 years. There has been reports of the metal type ones where tiny fragments have been found to cause damage as they shear off. Yes you need to do the exercises to repair the muscle and keep it strong. No you won't clink....the best to have. Don't settle for anything else. Good luck Pop....when are you having it done?


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Pop
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Posted - 16 Jan 2015 :  11:27:32 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pop to your friends list Send Pop a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Callisto, legs pretty much flap in the wind anyway, and you have me imagining a new hip in ceramic with a little picture of characters from Wind in the Willows on it.

Thanks Ruthie.

I don't know when it will be yet. I'm expecting an appointment with a specialist to come thru soon. It was a bit of a shock, they were looking for arthritis to confirm a rather nasty autoimmune disorder, and I was so elatated that it wasn't the one they thought it was that I didn't ask all the questions I should; and I was also quite shocked that its so bad that the only solution is replacement, It was something about no blood supply and dead bone.

But now I'm a bit concerned and curious, in a few days my steroid medication will be doubled, and I'm sure from previous times at that level, I won't feel much pain at all from the hip. When I suggested that I could carry on as normal once the pain was removed, the doctor raised her eyebrows and said that was not a solution at all. So now I'm wondering if I do carry on as normal and ignore it, might it snap or break off or something?

I'm not sure now if she meant that wasn't a long term solution or that to carry on as normal including riding was something I shouldn't be doing. And then of course who do I ride, Billy is small and narrow, but he does need a fair amount of leg work, Zar is a barrel and would freak at being mounted from the wrong side, Mats is tall and narrow and is so smooth that even a spook is smooth and graceful, and I can ride her on just voice, but she has the potential of go batsh*t if the mood takes her.

I've not ridden since Xmas Eve, and I was rather hoping to ride soon, as a treat, but now I'm not sure if the issue is pain or further damage.

I was all focused on what happens after the replacement, now I'm wondering what happens before.

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RUTHIE
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Posted - 16 Jan 2015 :  12:16:54 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RUTHIE to your friends list Send RUTHIE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You will know what feels right and what dosen't. We have recently changed Fey's saddle for a medium wide from a medium as she has changed shape through age ( I can relate to that one!). OH felt the difference on his hip even now. His hip was done as he had bone on bone grating...he walked like a duck in pain. He now is pain free. Occasionally, the right hip reminds him another one will be needed.
Take care of yourself, be patient both pre and post op....yes Mum.





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Vik1
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Posted - 16 Jan 2015 :  5:44:42 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vik1 to your friends list Send Vik1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
'6 months !!!!!! That doesn't work for me.'

Spoken like a true horsewoman! lol

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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 16 Jan 2015 :  10:26:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I too need a new hip. I have put it off for the moment as I have a foalie due early July so I need to be OK for that. I have been for physio although I now don't attend, just on the books and ring if I need to go again. I went to get the correct exercises as the stronger you are before the op the quicker and better you heal. My physio was very surprised and said I was very strong (tussling with half a ton of stallion does tend to make you strong!) and to keep up the exercises and get back to her when I was ready to go on the list for a replacement. I thought about next Christmas and then it could be done April/May time 2016; easier for the horses as they could live out for the summer.

I was told that you can't do certain movements and mustn't bend down as the hip could pop out, no use with a foal as one needs to get down with them. Good luck with yours, Pop. Our post lady had hers done last year, goes with the job now they have vans, and she was only in overnight but said it was 6 months before she was fully operational again but I thing for me 4 months sounds doable, a lot better than 6.

Barbara

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kofihorse
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Posted - 19 Jan 2015 :  9:13:00 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kofihorse to your friends list Send kofihorse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Also,I believe that different surgeons use different styles/types of replacement. A friend of mine was told that she would never be able to ride after a hip replacement so she got a second opinion from another surgeon and he said that the type he used would be fine - and so it is,she is riding again but I can't remember how long it took.
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Pop
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Posted - 20 Jan 2015 :  11:21:05 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pop to your friends list Send Pop a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great AL feedback. I'm working on a plan that gets me back riding within 2/3 months, but of course all my other joints are fine, which is not usually the case for replacement patients, because its so often arthritis and has an effect on more than one joint, and if I can get the op soon, I will have fitness. This is going downhill fast as each day I'm less mobile :)

I'm now working on the pre-op riding plan, which is I think possible as my steroids will now be increased to spooky no pain level. I think riding less dangerous than trying to explain to Wilz that I just deliver the food, I don't want any of it for myself, and there is no need whatsoever to behave in such a rude manner whilst trying to prevent me taking a mouthful of her food. And there is no need to ram me against the stable wall to remind me that she is not happy that I might be inclined to eat some of her food. Whilst I have been seen with a mouthful of hay, this is purely accidental.




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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 21 Jan 2015 :  3:18:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pop, high dose steroids ARE NOT A GOOD IDEA long term. They mask the problem rather than sort it.

Good luck with whatever you have done but doing nothing doesn't really sound like an option.

Barbara

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Pop
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Posted - 21 Jan 2015 :  6:10:55 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pop to your friends list Send Pop a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes Barbara, I agree. I hate taking any medications. I have to carry a Steroid User Notice, I guess that makes me a sort of Junkie. I think I would attempt to give them up if it was just the hip, but the steroids are for a different thing, and I think they make the hip feel better as a side affect. I'm taking so much stuff atm its depressing. I'm so concerned I'm even reading the leaflets that come with drugs,

Have you ever done that, read the leaflets? Why is it that the list of side affects is exactly the same as the list of things they are supposed to treat????

And you know the ones that tell you not to drive, well of course we all tend to ignore that; here's the thing, if you are taking two or more that say 'Don't drive', it should be changed to "Hey, really really don't drive, I mean it now, do not drive". lol

I could tell you some stories .....

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Goldenmane
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Posted - 22 Jan 2015 :  5:42:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Goldenmane to your friends list Send Goldenmane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pop, no words of wisdom except you sound like you're going to be a terrible patient....worse than I was when I hurt my back and was in hospital. Listen to your body. Better 6 months off riding than a lifetime. I'd love to hear your stories!!

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