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Ari
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Posted - 13 Jul 2013 :  2:44:18 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Ari to your friends list Send Ari a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My lad hates to stay in the summer, just so glad he has no pink skin or allergies and is Mr cool in the heat otherwise he would be very stressed and nightmare at having to stay in for his own good.

Some of the native types and cobs on our yard are sweating stood in or out of the stable. I do feel for the neds struggling with the heat, sunburn on pink bits and sweet itch etc they are all needing a lot of tlc.

Not that I complaining about the weather, it has delivered the best crop of haylage for a long time, but I think the stressed parched grass will shoot up when we do get even a bit of rain and that will be a risk to the lami prone.

Fabulous weather and great very early morning rides

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Vik1
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Posted - 13 Jul 2013 :  3:03:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vik1 to your friends list Send Vik1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ive been exercising my youngster in the morning lately to avoid the cleggs...awful nasty things! Theyve been having a feats on me. Couldnt even think about riding in field or out a hack because of them. Velvs on box rest anyway with her cut. She desp to get out, poor girl but it will be a few weeks yet.
Horses just look miserable in the field and we are quite high up so there is always a breeze. Temps here averaging about 25-29c just now. Yo still hasnt got her haylage cut.

It is cooler today which is nice. Its a workable temperature. Think we are supposed to have some rain showers on mon/tues. Could do with a sprinkle.

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Kharidian
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Posted - 13 Jul 2013 :  3:13:30 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kharidian to your friends list Send Kharidian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Our herd live out and they have the choice of fields facing in different directions and also the cover of cool woods hiwever the boys are surprising as they are often out grazing in the hottest sun when you'd expect them to be resting in the shade. Strange boys!

Caryn

Kharidian (Prince Sadik x Khiri)........ Alkara Cassino (H Tobago x Rose Aboud)
aka "Roger".................................... aka "Chips"

The first image is from an original painting by Pat Shorto.

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Kharidian
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Posted - 13 Jul 2013 :  3:18:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kharidian to your friends list Send Kharidian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Vik1, can't you slap lots of Flamazine (I think that's what you're using) and then cover with wound powder and turn your mare out? From the photos you posted earlier I wouldn't have thought that needed box rest IMO. I prefer to keep them out with that kind of cut.

Caryn

Kharidian (Prince Sadik x Khiri)........ Alkara Cassino (H Tobago x Rose Aboud)
aka "Roger".................................... aka "Chips"

The first image is from an original painting by Pat Shorto.

South-East Essex
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Ari
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Posted - 13 Jul 2013 :  3:38:20 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ari to your friends list Send Ari a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree Caryn, even though my boy likes to be out I go down with fly spray several times a day and there he is in the sun happy as can be.

Vik1, would be good if you could get your girl out, my vet told me that warm dry weather has minimal risk of infection compared to wet, muddy or humid weather. And the weather would help dry up the wounds and heal.

I have used the bright yellow fly strike cream that farmers use on sheep with success on minor cuts but can appreciate Velvs are a more of worry, Whats the worst that can happen, she may need antibiotics but she will be happy

Vets always play safe with the box rest scenario

Edited by - Ari on 13 Jul 2013 3:39:19 PM
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hazelcat74
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Posted - 13 Jul 2013 :  4:12:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hazelcat74 to your friends list Send hazelcat74 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mine are doing fine, they have plenty of trees for shade, however we are riding late evenings as too hot to go earlier and the horses are just so slow, my normally fizzy girl is plodding along at a sensible walk for a change, they can't be bothered! Fly sheets help keep them cool and the one with sweet itch is fine as midges don't seem to like the hot bright sun,so no worries here.
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Vik1
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Posted - 13 Jul 2013 :  4:26:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vik1 to your friends list Send Vik1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Some of the cut is now looking quite good, some not so. Flamazine has got some of the black off with healthy pink tissue underneath. Its the bit that exposes fascia that worries me more. The bottom edge is necrotic, the flap of skin at top needs cut off and in the middle its gone sloughy. The main sore bit is now roughly 5cm across by 3 1/2 top to bottom. Its a bit like a grade 3 pressure ulcer. Got vet coming at beginning of week for debridement. Was going to keep her in til then and see what they say. Ive been walking her out in hand 2x daily and letting her graze. She wants out but she tolerates box rest very well....shes had enough practice over the years!

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Ari
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Posted - 13 Jul 2013 :  4:35:26 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ari to your friends list Send Ari a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Flamazine is magic, only ever used it on infected mud fever and it was fabulous. Had the debridement scenario a few years back bit it's amazing how the wound improves afterwards.

Wish you all the best

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Vik1
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Posted - 13 Jul 2013 :  4:56:37 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vik1 to your friends list Send Vik1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks...we'll get there. I am feeling more positive about it all. Was just so gutted when it happened. Once its had the debridement I think it will improve in no time.

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Judith S
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Posted - 13 Jul 2013 :  5:13:31 PM  Show Profile  Visit Judith S's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Judith S to your friends list Send Judith S a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Am bringing in 5 of mine during the day, the 6 DIY liveries are also in during the day. The rest of mine are out 24/7, with field shelters & a breeze (it does help living 900ft up a Welsh hill). Normally we don't have much of a fly problem, but this time the horse flies are abso awful! Having to buy fly repellent for the first time since we moved here 5 yrs ago.

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Judith S
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Posted - 13 Jul 2013 :  5:14:37 PM  Show Profile  Visit Judith S's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Judith S to your friends list Send Judith S a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ari, I use the bright yellow stuff as well on minor cuts etc, it does work very well

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FullCircle
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Posted - 13 Jul 2013 :  5:48:17 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add FullCircle to your friends list Send FullCircle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My boy is living out for the first time in three years that I've had him. He's loving it - he looks great - his weight is good and he's really happy to work. I ride early enough in the mornings that he's not struggling too badly, but I'm not molly-coddling him. I think that's been my problem the past three years - too much molly coddle!
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Ari
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Posted - 13 Jul 2013 :  6:02:35 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ari to your friends list Send Ari a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So agree with the Molly coddle thing, ok if a horse has allergies, sun burn etc, but its only the horse industry that is promoting fly rugs and useless fly spray.

If Arabs can't cope with heat what ned can?
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rosie
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Posted - 13 Jul 2013 :  6:44:25 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rosie to your friends list Send rosie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've owned horse for 30 years now, and today was the first time EVER that I have to use a fly mask.
One of my horses is not coping at all well with this heat. The flies are annoying his eyes something terribly. I prefer to leave horses out 24/7 as much as possible but he had to come in for 24 hrs and is now back out with his fly mask on, eye drops and also had to put him on bute for a few days to help with the inflammation.
The others are coping ok up to now? Think I'll move them to another field soon and see if that helps?




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Judith S
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Posted - 13 Jul 2013 :  7:37:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit Judith S's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Judith S to your friends list Send Judith S a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This year is the first for a very long time I have brought neds in daytime....
I am not into molly coddling but needs must! I think my livery ladies think I am a cruel horse mother at times....
their horses are sooooooo pampered!!!

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Quarabian
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Posted - 13 Jul 2013 :  7:47:43 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Quarabian to your friends list Send Quarabian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mine are asking to come in about 10 am. They are happy to stay in all day untilabout now. I have just come back from moving sheep with my dogs and I have been eaten by the dratted flies. So i guess they will wait for another hour until turnout.

Lovely to see them sleeping in the field at 6am. Wish I'd had my camera.
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Judith S
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Posted - 13 Jul 2013 :  8:43:05 PM  Show Profile  Visit Judith S's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Judith S to your friends list Send Judith S a Private Message  Reply with Quote
One thing I have noticed this time is my Manon, she of the BIG pink nose & nostrils... has no sunburn at all, for the first time since we bought her a few years ago... when I had to use a UV nose net on her....
One would think & expect horrible sunburn this time..... but as yet....nothing!!!!!!!!!!!

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Judith S
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Posted - 13 Jul 2013 :  8:45:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit Judith S's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Judith S to your friends list Send Judith S a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wonder if its buttercups.... as the field she was on had not many..... & new field of today, but for haylage has none now.....

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sab2
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Posted - 13 Jul 2013 :  9:01:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sab2 to your friends list Send sab2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We had problem a few weeks ago with burnt noses but since we cut the fields their noses have been a lot better so mine must of been buttercups, they have been dreadful this year. Mine are hating this weather, i got two new poorly ones arrived last sunday and the worst one has lost weight, which is something she cannot afford to do, they have spent a lot of time pacing round and the flies are awful, its not that we have no grass as we have loads , i am feeding the thin ones twice a day and putting garlic in to try and help with flies, also spraying as often as i can and using fly rugs, praying for cooler days and rain up my way so that they get a rest, if she drops any more weight i shall have to bring her in , they do have a large shed in the field but not often in it, but my sheep love the shed and are often in it
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Pasch
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Posted - 13 Jul 2013 :  11:35:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pasch to your friends list Send Pasch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here in the tropics we have average temperatures of 30 to 35 degrees from middle of June to beginning of September,with minimum temps rarely dropping below 20 at night and hot spells from now to end of August when we can reach 40 degrees.
Horses are just used to it,you can often see them in full sun even if they have shadow.In the really hot days they do sweat a lot especially if it's humid and no wind,in which case I give them long cold showers,only time they like it!Riding is done early morning or late afternoon of course.Not many horseflies at the yard but many flies,mine live in fly masks as otherwise they get runny enflamed eyes!Many horseflies however when out hacking but the permethrine fly repellent works quite well.
Showers again after riding as they come back sweaty even if just walking.They are much calmer than in cold weather!
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debs
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Posted - 14 Jul 2013 :  12:10:49 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Buttercups worse than sun for pink noses...

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FullCircle
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Posted - 14 Jul 2013 :  07:05:30 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add FullCircle to your friends list Send FullCircle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is it not the combination of the two, sun AND buttercups? It was my (perhaps mis)understanding that the buttercup consumption makes them photosensitive and therefore makes them burn easily?
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TAE
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Posted - 14 Jul 2013 :  08:06:52 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TAE to your friends list Send TAE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My boys seem to have it sussed.
They are out 24/7 with a shelter.
They graze in the morning and evening but if I go down during the day they're normally having a siesta in the barn when it's hot. Such a hard life.
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Kes
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Posted - 14 Jul 2013 :  11:58:05 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kes to your friends list Send Kes a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kes is out 24/7 now, he'll only come in if it rains, this is the first time I've had to use suncream, hes got a pink patch inbetween his nostrils that seemed to need it.
Luckily hes at a yard on a hill so we get both sea breezes and winds off the South Downs which is nice in the strong sunshine.


Carole & Kes, West Sussex.
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glo
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Posted - 14 Jul 2013 :  7:52:40 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add glo to your friends list Send glo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mine are out most of the time, I do bring them in at 2ish for feeding and resting out of the sun and fly's. we have one pink horse and three pink noses no sunburn and I don't put anything on , the only time I did my mares nose was so sore for weeks!

Vik re your cut: I have a yearling the jumped fence once and cut his chest about 6in long and 4 in wide and it hung down in a big flap, had it stitched but was told it would probably brake open (it did) it was a horrible mess I was advised to put Cut+Heal on it twice a day and leave the horse out it healed in about 3 months and only had a very thin 3in scar.

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kath
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Posted - 15 Jul 2013 :  12:33:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kath to your friends list Send kath a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ours arent really any different from normal, but we've not had the sky high temperatures you have in the south.
They are in at night all year round anyway so nothing has changed there and they're grazing happily in the field. They all wear fly masks all summer anyway, sensitive little chestnuts - i actually think our flies arent too bad this year (the midges are a different matter1).

JudithS, my old lad gets dreadful buttercup burn - he has a really pink nose - he wears a fly mask that covers his nose too, and has sudocrem on any sores he gets (which he hates!)

Gus had last week off but competed at the weekend, we just took it easy but the ground is very hard at the moment :-/

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