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Meggie-Lu
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Posted - 10 Feb 2013 : 12:27:48 PM
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I don't eat lamb or mutton (i don't like the taste or texture of it) and i don't eat pork as i studied pig behavior and i have trained pigs and spent most of my college life looking in depth at pigs, that is also why i don't choice to eat horse. I have also spent time studding and around chickens, fish and ducks but provided the animal is treated and killed in a way i deem respectable then i will carry on eating meats. |
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Meggie-Lu
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England
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Posted - 10 Feb 2013 : 12:33:48 PM
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Good point Rui Ok How about this is you don't like the jokes then don't read them! Problem solved! |
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Eeyore
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Posted - 10 Feb 2013 : 12:51:41 PM
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I've not seen any of the jokes so don't know how black the humour is but it was inevitable that jokes would start to circulate. Anything that is current in the media becomes the subject of jokes. I doubt I would find them funny and like you George they would upset me on one level.
I also agree that horse meat being in cheap ready meals is no news when you think about the pressure to produce cheap food. I'm veggie so feel the same about other animals. My parents have some sheep and after dealing with them I can't comprehend how anyone could condone slaughtering them for meat.
The main things about this that upset me are the conditions those poor horses are transported in as Goldenmane said and also the ongoing indiscriminate overbreeding of horses. |
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Fee
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Posted - 10 Feb 2013 : 12:53:02 PM
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Quarabian who do you think 'mislabels' food? Who puts things in food and the animals and don't tell us? Who kills animals halal and don't tell us? Who doesn't monitor the welfare of animals? Who doesn't deal with employers who abuse animals and disregard the laws and their basic rights? I think you'll find it all comes under the umbrella of the meat industry. I think you are quite aware that when I say 'they' are the criminals I do not include every farmer who produces for them, and nor do i mean you personally (which unfortunately is they way you've taken it) that would be and is ridiculous and if you thought I meant that then I hope that spells it out clearly for you. If you want to be pedantic then I'll say the factory farms, slaughterhouses, processors and retailers within the industry are criminals. Or maybe its easier to say the meat industry minus a few farmers?
Re your 'compromise' in drinking organic milk. I think you're right, the difference is probably placebo and it's akin to buying 'free range' eggs, especially if you're buying it from large milk producers via the supermarket. I would imagine its maybe marginally better for you but not better for the cows at all, depending on why you've changed to organic.
Like Rui says this is not the place or thread to argue these points, unless you want to make a joke about it Only joking folks! You're so right littlearabians, the amount of people who misread on forums is staggering! Some innocently, some I'm sure is not so.
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Quarabian
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Wales
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Posted - 10 Feb 2013 : 1:27:02 PM
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Right I'm out of here. I don't want to go off topic so am not able to respond to the attack on my intelligence that just occurred. |
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george
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littlearabians
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Posted - 10 Feb 2013 : 4:31:28 PM
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better way of avoiding the jokes and those nasty horse hating people that posts them (sorry couldn't resist since apparently a true horse lover wouldn't post jokes)... DELETE or block us as friends on Facebook = you will not see the jokes, and will be protected from evil jokes in the future |
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george
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Wales
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Posted - 10 Feb 2013 : 4:46:46 PM
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Really???? what is your problem Littlearabians? I mean who has said anything about horse haters in fact I don't even know if you are a friend of mine on FB but if you are in light of your unfriendly attitude towards me I will oblige and un friend you if that is your wish? the apparently true statement was obviously aimed at me! |
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george
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Posted - 10 Feb 2013 : 4:53:54 PM
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Just read my own post back and yes I have stated "so called horse lovers" I have not said anybody is a horse hater |
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littlearabians
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george
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littlearabians
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Posted - 10 Feb 2013 : 6:47:50 PM
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actually it was and it came from meggie-lus comment regarding not reading the jokes... but maybe me being not English makes you not understand my sense of humour, maybe the fact that we have never meet so you haven't got a clue what I'm like, makes you take things I say to heart... I am sorry I upset you, I didn't mean to... I will leave this topic and I will never post on your topics again. |
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Zenitha
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England
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Posted - 10 Feb 2013 : 7:01:52 PM
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In defence of George, that is the way I read it as well ....personally, I find the jokes in bad taste, but thats just how I feel, each to their own !
No one can afford to be flippant about this issue - the fact is, if the organisation responsible for incorporating horse meat into 'beef' products is underhand enough to pull this off, do people really think they were 'careful' about the horsemeat they used ? There are countless routine medicine's used on horses that should not be finding their way into the food chain, some of them widely used and carcinogenic.....:( :( If people don't care about man's best friend (yes, best friend - no other animal has served man for so long, nor died in their millions for us in the name of war ), perhaps they can at least be concerned for the potential health issues for humans arising from this deception. |
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tiny
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Posted - 10 Feb 2013 : 7:33:33 PM
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Whenever anything high profile hits the media someone somewhere has a joke about it thats just the way it is....some are amusing and others in bad taste but everyone has a different sense of humour and I do think people can be a little over sensitive. when on FB there are jokes flying up all over the place about so many different things and nobody is going to get/like them all. As for the whole horse meat scandal thats surely for another topic as this one was quite clear that is was about the jokes people have made about it rather than the issue of the meat itself! |
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debs
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debs
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Posted - 10 Feb 2013 : 9:48:29 PM
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Sadly there are carcinogens in lots of foods we eat.....again that isn't shown on the list of ingredients! |
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Offira
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England
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Posted - 11 Feb 2013 : 07:19:33 AM
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I hadn't really noticed any jokes (but then don't do facebook) but when I googled 'horsemeat' sadly 'horsemeat jokes' was suggested by google. Says it all really doesn't it.
The real tragedy (for me) is that it now appears that the meat came from Romania, and will be fueling that dreadful misery of live transportation of horses. Dreadful. Makes you wonder doesn't it, France is a huge producer of horse meat yet buys still more from Romania and then the end product arrives on dinner tables in Britain - and still there is profit for all parties (except the animals). |
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