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Pasha
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 Posted - 23 Oct 2012 : 10:38:50 AM
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I stopped feeding Thunderbrook Base Mix a few months ago as I had to keep adding to it for Shesky (on their recommendation) and it was getting too expensive and felt like I was mixing a potion, without seeing any benefits.
I noticed a huge change for the better switching to his current diet (above), but have down such a good job he now needs a bit more lol! |
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Judith S
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Wales
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Posted - 23 Oct 2012 : 11:32:41 AM
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From what I have heard the Thunderbrook feeds were strongly promoted for barefoot horses, but a lot of barefoot people have come of it due to footy horses.
When I looked at the website it seemed another of theses systems where you buy the base mix then have to keep adding bits to make up the minimum order for delivery and end up with loads of stuff you don't really need.
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MinHe
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England
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Posted - 23 Oct 2012 : 12:36:34 PM
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No suggestions as to what to go with beet and Cool Stance for 2 18 yo boys who don't carry much weight?
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Arachnid
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Judith S
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Wales
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Posted - 23 Oct 2012 : 12:57:29 PM
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| Garlic is one of those things where a study was carried out feeding high levels of processed garlic to horses and finding there were issues, then concluding that horses should not be fed garlic in any form. |
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Pasha
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England
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Pasha
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England
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Posted - 23 Oct 2012 : 2:35:52 PM
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.... right i've done a bit of googling and yes the ECIR Group are right in so much as a study was conducted and horses fed a high dose of Garlic developed Heinz Bodies (Amemia). I also found another study where horses fed a large dose of onion tops (I assume this means garlic) developed anemia within 11 days.
Both of these studies were high doses within a short period of time (I think the studies were concluded early due to the results), but there is anecdotal evidence that horses fed garlic at low doseages over a long period of time developed mild anemia - whether or not this was soley due to the Garlic it doesn't say.
So the message seems to be that's it's great for short periods of time to help boost the immune system, for respiratory health etc but should not be fed long term on a constant basis. |
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jackiedo
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England
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Posted - 24 Oct 2012 : 3:48:49 PM
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| bear in mind that a horse is designed to get most of it's calories by grazing and trickle feeding I reevaluated my feeding a couple of years ago. My horses are not in work at the moment (I have a 27 year old Arab and a rising 4 TB) and they are outside 24/7 unrugged on decent pasture and have access to hayledge. I feed (when necessary) fibre cubes. They are both well up to weight with thick glossy coats and have lots of energy. They have natural shelter at the moment, but there is a stable if needed. I concentrate on getting teeth and worming right, and they sometimes browze the bushes. Naturally horses would not eat many grains, nor oils. If your pasture is deficient in anything then you can supplement it. but my mares look fantastic, and I feel that nature does know best. |
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Triskar
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England
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Posted - 24 Oct 2012 : 5:09:18 PM
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| My 4 are on 50/50 turnout, they come in to (literally) a handful of Happy Hoof so that they think they've been fed, and in which my 25 year old has his joint supplement. They are fed hay, with the amount restricted since they are all tubs, and have a 15kg Horslyx in their stables - a Mobility lick for the 2 16 year olds, a Respiratory lick for my oldie, and a standard lick for my 4 year old. These last them about a month. They all have plenty of energy for the hacking, schooling and dressage competitions that we do, and all look really well on it. |
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Judith S
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jackiedo
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Posted - 25 Oct 2012 : 2:18:38 PM
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| You can have your pasture tested Judith, if it is deficient then you can add accordingly. Luckily my 2 girls can also browze rosehips, blackberry cammomile, thistle etc if they want to. I am on a good yard. The YO is a qualified nutritionist, written many articles for the racing industry and an all round good egg |
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ella
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Oct 2012 : 7:55:44 PM
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Pasha - I recently started feeding Ready Fibre Mash (soya hulls) as it's the only low-iron fibre I've been able to find for Arro who has hepatic iron overload. I was finding it impossible to keep iron intake levels below the NRC of 400mg/day until I found this.
All our horses love it. They prefer it to Equibeet (not that Arro can have Equibeet at 750mg/kg iron!) but we haven't used it for long enough to make much comment yet. |
   
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tamila
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England
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Posted - 26 Oct 2012 : 5:18:02 PM
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I have been feeding horses for thirty years and have always used Triple Crown Equipower. I have never fed a supplement as it is perfectly balanced. My 28 1/2 years old brood and ridden mare looks fantastic on it and has 2lb per day plus sugarbeet. My 20 year old has 1lb per day plus sugarbeet. They both look and are very well and energetic. When doing endurance I added Extruform and Golden Meal (obtainable from Roger Hatch at Trinioth Consultants).
There are so many feeds on the market so one has to be careful not to mix up vitamins and minerals as the wrong balance can lead to problems. |
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MinHe
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tamila
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Posted - 26 Oct 2012 : 9:20:42 PM
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| That's right Minhe. The feed is still the same as it was with Badminton but not quite as good as when it was produced by Triple Crown. You have to feed a little bit more than before but it is still a wonderful feed. |
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