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Pheebs
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Posted - 15 Apr 2012 :  8:16:21 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Pheebs to your friends list Send Pheebs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have just seen an advert for an 11 month old filly. This is what it says.

Trotting filly, 3 quarter bred, blue & white. Out of Billy Boy.
13.2hh, 11 months old. Recently broken, showing good potential.
Good to shoe & box, 100% in traffic. Just been wormed.
Price: £950 ovno

Who breaks in a horse at 11 months old???
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hazelcat74
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Posted - 15 Apr 2012 :  8:19:33 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hazelcat74 to your friends list Send hazelcat74 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Unbelievable! A girl who used to loan a horse at our yard has just bought a horse which is 2 in June and is broken to ride and drive!!!! People just so selfish and irresponsible!!
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sab2
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Posted - 15 Apr 2012 :  8:21:55 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sab2 to your friends list Send sab2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Poor little thing, lets hope she finds a nice loving home with somebody who will turn her away and allow her to be a baby again, i don,t go on that site as i get very annoyed at some of the adverts.
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littlearabians
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Posted - 15 Apr 2012 :  8:23:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit littlearabians's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add littlearabians to your friends list Send littlearabians a Private Message  Reply with Quote
its compleatly normal for people who does trotting racing, to break them to harness between 8-13 months old, then after they know very very basics they get turned away to be babies again.

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Pheebs
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Posted - 15 Apr 2012 :  8:24:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pheebs to your friends list Send Pheebs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think that's far too young
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george
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Posted - 15 Apr 2012 :  8:54:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add george to your friends list Send george a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Far far too young and it should be outlawed to break ANY horse before three!! and that's a year younger than I would touch them myself

George xxx
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MinHe
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Posted - 15 Apr 2012 :  9:41:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MinHe to your friends list Send MinHe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The trotting community in the UK are not exactly famous for horse welfare...

Keren
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natntaz
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Posted - 16 Apr 2012 :  10:08:22 AM  Show Profile  Click to see natntaz's MSN Messenger address  Send natntaz a Yahoo! Message Bookmark this reply Add natntaz to your friends list Send natntaz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have known many people that do this and have NEVER known them to turn them away. I agree it
Should never be allowed but quite often you are dealing with ignorant people who think because its been done like this for years and years that it is acceptable when it isn't



Natalie Pix. Essex. Tariq ibn Radfan and Taroub
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basbob
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Posted - 16 Apr 2012 :  11:54:00 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add basbob to your friends list Send basbob a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A lot of QH breeders will sit on them as yearlings but not start work with them for at least another year - it's not necessarily cruel depending on how the horse is physically and mentally - wrong to work them though as their bones aren't ready, but just to sit on doesn't do a mature horse any harm.
I thought lots of things like this were wrong until I witnessed them

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sasha
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Posted - 16 Apr 2012 :  6:38:35 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sasha to your friends list Send sasha a Private Message  Reply with Quote


I have also seen this advert..on DD?.I whinced, thinking exactly the same, but I know it is common to break to harness at 2 year old.
My young driving horse was broken at 2 , then turned away. I bought him at 2 1/2 and didn't drive him until 2 weeks ago..he is now 4 years old so has matured quite a lot and had time to grow up.
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garnet
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Posted - 16 Apr 2012 :  7:13:29 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add garnet to your friends list Send garnet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There is an awful lot of this on DD. Our lad Sam, who was lightly broken at the end of his 3yo summer and then properly broken at 4 before being bought by us at 6 and still regarded as quite 'baby', was very much the exception. Also lots of weaned colts at meat money - WHY? (by which I mean why are they bred in the first place?)

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brychens mum
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Posted - 16 Apr 2012 :  9:03:03 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add brychens mum to your friends list Send brychens mum a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You think this is bad? A very nice lady came to look at a saddle - had for sale on ebay. We got chatting and having met my old boy (welsh cob) she showed me some photos of a truley lovely welsh section c colt she paid £70 for at Holmefirth to save from the meat man. He was bred in the purple,pulled of his dam way too young as his sire line didn't fit with the breeding policy of the stud who bought his in foal dam. Shame on them. Nice lady coped with dealing with an upset just weaned colt, got him gelded and sold to another decent home. Good on her, shame on the top yorkshire welsh c breeders who did this.
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brack369
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Posted - 16 Apr 2012 :  10:58:28 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add brack369 to your friends list Send brack369 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Makes me so angry when I see those poor horses still with their fluffy tails being belted down the road in a cart. I'm afraid I've given them a few choice words in the past particularly when ive seen them being handy with the whip.

The racing industry is just as bad though

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KittyB
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Posted - 17 Apr 2012 :  1:47:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KittyB to your friends list Send KittyB a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I personally don't work my youngsters under saddle until they're 4, but I know lots of people who start at 3 (and earlier). I like to take my time with them, let them mature and grow before serious questions are asked of them. In my experience, this makes for a horse that carries on a useful working life well into its 20's and not put out to grass (or pts) in late teens. What I actually do get concerned about are those horses/ponies you see at HOYS when they are only 4 or 5. How much work and schooling have these youngsters had to do to get there makes me cringe! Just my HO ...

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P.S
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Posted - 18 Apr 2012 :  7:19:23 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add P.S to your friends list Send P.S a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I work on a hunt yard where all the horses are imported from Ireland- we have just found out through the grape vine that one of ours was hunting as a 2 yr old over there :( poor lad- hes always been a misery guts- hes just turned 7 and been diagnosed with 3 kissing spine and shot hocks, the oldest on the yard is 9 and has navicular from being hammered too young. No wonder they are so good at the job- so many miles on the clock.
How they are taught to jump?- taped in and whacked with branches till they jump the hedge again and again- one is so terrified of the whip that i get the feeling i could put him at a jump he'd attempt it knowing full well he wouldn't make it just to avoid the whip.
They vast majority are terrified about you going any where near their ears from twitching.
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natntaz
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Posted - 20 Apr 2012 :  08:39:48 AM  Show Profile  Click to see natntaz's MSN Messenger address  Send natntaz a Yahoo! Message Bookmark this reply Add natntaz to your friends list Send natntaz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
P.s that is so sad, makes me so angry



Natalie Pix. Essex. Tariq ibn Radfan and Taroub
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Justme123
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Posted - 27 Apr 2012 :  10:30:48 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Justme123 to your friends list Send Justme123 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is really shocking, the poor filly, why can't she be allowed to be a baby!!
Shame on these people!!!

Edited by - Justme123 on 27 Apr 2012 10:31:29 PM
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