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MinHe
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  6:17:17 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add MinHe to your friends list Send MinHe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This has been posted before on AL, but a reminder never hurts...

My old mare, Biba, was injured badly last night as a result of being tied up with baler twine. Lyn, her loaner, believed it would break if anything happened - instead, Biba pulled back and the FENCE broke. Biba panicked and ran off, pulling the rail behind her, and got herself staked in the off-hind pastern. Luckily Lyn (who I cannot fault) had a gut feeting that the inch or so of wood sticking out of Biba's leg was worse that it looked, so she got her to the vet ASAP where an x-ray revealed there was anther 8-10cm sticking into the leg, up against the tendon. It was touch and go, but Biba was operated on and mercifully the tendon was not damaged.

So we now have Biba at an expensive vet hospital in Newmarket. Although the operation was a success, we now have to get through the healing process without complications. And all this because of baler twine!

It is a *myth* that modern baler twine breaks. The belief is a hang-over from the days when baler twine was a natural product, not artificial as it is today. The difference was demonstrated to me by an old farmer who still used the natural sort. For years, I had a stock of this for tying up, but alas it is all gone now.

I NEVER use the orange/blue twine myself, and certainly would absolutely never use the stuff that is used on big bales - it is nothing but a trap masquerading as a safeguard.

Also, the high breaking strain of baler twine makes it a danger if it gets wrapped around your/your horse's legs. So make sure you cut all loops of twine before you throw it away - and dispose of it safely to the dump in old feed bags or similar.

Keren

Edited by - MinHe on 04 Feb 2012 6:20:01 PM
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sab2
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  6:35:14 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sab2 to your friends list Send sab2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am very sorry to read this , fingers crossed for your old girl that she recovers fully.I agree the modern baler twine is lethal, we found out the hard way a few years ago nothing too serious but enough to give us a scare, thanks for reminding us all of the danger.
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george
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  6:37:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add george to your friends list Send george a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So sorry to hear your horse has been hurt, I tie up with twine but always cut a few strands off to make it weaker as Blue snapped a few lead reins instead of the twine it alerted me to the fact that it is very strong! hope Biba gets better soon without any complications x

George xxx
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carole ferguson
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  6:53:53 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add carole ferguson to your friends list Send carole ferguson a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hope Biba is O.K.

Years ago - we think the gipsies tried to take a horse from the livery yard I was at. I went out to bring in my mare - and I saw a friend's big hunter gelding looking a bit sad. He had what is apparently called a pikey twitch - which was a loop of baler twine around his bottom jaw. His poor bottom lip was terribly swollen - but by the time the Vet arrived - I was able to cut the twine off with a very sharp penknife. The vet said had it not been removed - he would have lost his lower jaw as the blood supply was basically cut off.
The Vet told us this was a pikey twitch - and they had obviously tried to steal the horse - but failed.

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joanna_piana
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  6:56:44 PM  Show Profile  Click to see joanna_piana's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add joanna_piana to your friends list Send joanna_piana a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hope your mare will make a fully recovery and thankfully it wasn't worse. I still use bailer twine but like George I only use a few of the strands so they will break straight away.


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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  7:03:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrs Vlacq to your friends list Send Mrs Vlacq a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hope your girl makes a speedy recovery - it is terrifying when such events unfold
We do use some 'nylon' string for tying up, but its stuff we purposely left out to photo degrade to weaken it! My stock of sisel has ended, so I've invested in some Equipings, not that we tie up much, and the trailer has safety rings. It frightens me when I see horses tied to the wagon all day at shows etc and nobody around to check on them.


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Callisto
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  7:35:43 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
All best wishes for a speedy recovery, and thanks for the reminder.

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Quarabian
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  7:53:14 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Quarabian to your friends list Send Quarabian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
While baler twine is definately dangerous to all livestock not just horses it is worth considering teaching your horses to tie up properly or not tie them at all. With youngsters I only put the lead rope through a tie up ring and hold the other end so that I can give and take. The other option is a tie up ring I came across used by Clinton Anderson. It is a ring which allows the rope to slide through if the horse pulls back. You have to use a long rope it works because the horse usually stops after a few feet if he doesn't feel trapped. You can then adjust the rope to a shorter length again. I thought this would be so much better for arabs who dislike being tied. Certainly much better than tying to something that is suposed to break which can be a shock in itself and a danger if you are standing too close at the time.

Butr thanks for bringin this up MinHe. Baler twine can make a mess of cloven hooves if it gets caught up between the clefts.
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Kes
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  8:43:34 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kes to your friends list Send Kes a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I use the Velcro break point thingies, but also never leave my horse unattended tied-up. I have seen people leave yards altogether, locking the gate behind them, with horses left on the yard tied-up to a tie ring, on baler twine.


Carole & Kes, West Sussex.
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MirandaToo
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  8:46:52 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MirandaToo to your friends list Send MirandaToo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry to hear this. Hope Biba is OK and back to fitness soon. What a nasty accident, but so easily done...... The equipings sound like a good idea.x
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Kes
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  8:52:25 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kes to your friends list Send Kes a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry, meant to say , hope Biba makes a full and speedy recovery.


Carole & Kes, West Sussex.
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Quarabian
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  9:00:25 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Quarabian to your friends list Send Quarabian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes me too forgot to wish Biba a speedy recovery.
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natntaz
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Hope your mare Biba makes a good recovery x



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nerissanic
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Posted - 04 Feb 2012 :  11:11:28 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nerissanic to your friends list Send nerissanic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
oh poor girl - i hope biba makes a full recovery.
baling twine can certainly be lethal stuff but can also be magic stuff and useful for temporarily fixing things!
i tried making some velcro-thingies but my mare soon worked out how to get undone so now i use a very long lead rope and don't tie her up at all after she got the lead rope over her head and panicked.
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Vik1
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Posted - 05 Feb 2012 :  11:14:02 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vik1 to your friends list Send Vik1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh that sounds terrible. I hope she gets better soon. When I got Storm I started using one of those trailer rope things. It has a normal clip at the end that attaches to the headcollar and the other end is a funny looking clip that if pulled hard it comes loose.
Ive got one for the stable and one for the trailer.

Im also very wary about tying horses up with quite long leadropes. Velvet was once tied up outside the stable (even tho rope wasnt that long) and she leaned over her door. She got her rope caught on the underside of the door hinge, panicked and fell. Luckily escaping serious damage to her neck.
Since then Im also paranoid about headcollar/bridle/reins on in stables, again because of the hinge (it sticks out). Even when they dont have any of these on, I always make sure the hinge bolt is covered by a rug over the stable door.

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complete novice
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Posted - 05 Feb 2012 :  3:42:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add complete novice to your friends list Send complete novice a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hope Biba soon makes a full recovery, pleased to hear there was no tendon damage.
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Touchofblue
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Posted - 05 Feb 2012 :  6:08:02 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Touchofblue to your friends list Send Touchofblue a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Totally agree modern baler string is lethal
People I know vaguely had mended their horses neck rug with baler string
Horse got caught in a fence--and paid with its life as the neck rug did not tear.

Hope your horse makes a full recovery OP
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Pashon2001
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Posted - 05 Feb 2012 :  7:27:48 PM  Show Profile  Send Pashon2001 an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Pashon2001 to your friends list Send Pashon2001 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I will not tie ANYTHING up, no matter how old/young etc etc. I also put a rope through the ring and hold the end. If that isnt sufficient then I wait til I have someone to hold said beasty.


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Meggie-Lu
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Posted - 06 Feb 2012 :  2:31:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Meggie-Lu to your friends list Send Meggie-Lu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank goodness she is ok. I find hair bands are good looping them through the metal ring and they break really well but also hold well.

Danger Mouse
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pinkvboots
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Posted - 06 Feb 2012 :  3:14:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pinkvboots to your friends list Send pinkvboots a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am also with Pashon on this one I never tie my horses up seen so many nasty situations I just wont take the risk now, hope your horse has a speedy recovery.

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littlearabians
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Posted - 06 Feb 2012 :  3:30:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit littlearabians's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add littlearabians to your friends list Send littlearabians a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Im sorry for your horse, and hope for speedy recovery.

I always use this for youngsters, and it is fab http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWtvdBzJDNw
I bought mine in a tackshop in Denmark and I love it, it has so you can adjust the pull when teaching to tye up, but if the horse panicks it can pull the rope straight through and will not get hurt... its on ebay as The Clip - Ultimate horse tying & training tool endorsed by Josh Lyons...
I do tye my horses up at times, but its all depending on what im doing with them, quite often I just hold the lead and do what ever i need to.

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Meggie-Lu
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Posted - 06 Feb 2012 :  3:43:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Meggie-Lu to your friends list Send Meggie-Lu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Littlearabians what a fab bit of kit! Im defo getting one of them!

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