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hazelcat74
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 Posted - 06 Sep 2011 : 10:14:00 PM
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Years ago I owned an arab x connemara mare who had a prophets thumb mark on her neck. Haven't seen many horses have one and just wondered how common/uncommon they are. I was told it is usually arabs/part arabs and TBs that have them, but not sure if this is right. Read about the legend of how they were given the mark by Moses, lovely story 
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Jessica
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Posted - 06 Sep 2011 : 10:19:17 PM
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My boy has one (or at least thats what my mother says that it is!)
Imran's is on his butty  i'll get a picture posted and maybe you can confirm! I dont know of the history surrounding the 'thumb print' but i'll 'google' it now.
Interesting! I'd like to see other pictures too if anybody has any to share :) |
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hazelcat74
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Posted - 06 Sep 2011 : 10:23:37 PM
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| Actually may have got the Moses bit wrong, think it was Muhammed (spelling?) so long ago I can't remember! |
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Callisto
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Posted - 06 Sep 2011 : 10:30:17 PM
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It is a prophets thumb print. Here is the story of Mohammeds mares: A birthmark in the form of an indentation, usually found on the side of a horse’s neck. It’s believed that a horse with suck a mark will be outstanding, as it is allegedly a descendant of one of the five brood mares that the Prophet Mohammed particularly treasured and marked with his own thumbprint. A widespread belief tells of how any horse that has a groove in its neck is to be treasured and treated with great respect as it believed to come from a the line of horses that belonged to the Prophet Mahomet. If you can place your thumb gently into the groove on the neck, which is known as the 'Prophet's Thumb Print', then the horse is allegedly connected to one of the five brood mares that Mahomet owned, and therefore sacred. The five mares of Mohammed by Ilil Arbel, Ph.D. The hot desert wind blew against the tent, driving the dust inside. Fatima walked softly in, carrying an earthenware jug full of cold water, and handed it to the Prophet. "Please, stop tormenting yourself, Mohammed," she said, "drink some water!" "I will drink when the test is over, and the horses can drink, too. I cannot drink knowing they are thirsty," said the Prophet to his daughter. "I do not understand this test, nor do I like it," said Fatima angrily. "Depriving the horses from drinking for three full days is cruel. I cannot believe you would do it, a man who loves animals better than himself!" "I must. Allah commanded me -- would you have me disobey God? The spread of Islam depends greatly on the loyalty and strength of our horses. The best of these horses, said Allah, will be honored till the end of time... But it is the evening of the third day now, so let us go to the horses and conduct the test." He took a horn that hung at the tent’s entrance, and walked toward an enclosure where about a hundred horses were confined, a little distance from the water hole of the oasis. The horses looked reproachfully at their beloved master as he quickly opened the gate. Tormented by thirst, the horses galloped to the water hole, but before they could reach it, Mohammed raised the horn to his lips and sounded the call for war. The horses ignored it. They were so thirsty that perhaps they couldn’t even hear it, and went on galloping toward the water. But not all of them. Five mares stopped. Without hesitation, they turned around and returned to Mohammed, ready to do whatever was required of them. The Prophet stroked their silky manes, tears in his eyes. He led them to the water and envisioned the glorious future as they drank. He knew that these mares would foal the finest of Arab horses, the only horses of pure blood, the horses that would help bring Islam to every corner of the Earth.
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Pop
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Posted - 06 Sep 2011 : 10:42:21 PM
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| Mats has one on her neck and one on her bum, difficult to get a picture because she is convince that cameras are edible. |
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HelenW
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Posted - 06 Sep 2011 : 10:56:24 PM
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| Elly has one on her neck........she is the second chestnut in my sig strip. |
   
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HelenW
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Posted - 06 Sep 2011 : 10:58:15 PM
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| Forgot to say if you enlarge her picture you can see it |
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impy
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Posted - 07 Sep 2011 : 01:18:48 AM
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| Rushka has 2, parallel to each other half way up his neck. I'll try to find a photo. |
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Goldenmane
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Posted - 07 Sep 2011 : 10:07:41 AM
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A long time ago somebody came to buy my friends horse, saw my Arab chestnut mare with a Prophets mark on her chest and offered me a lot of money for her. I refused |
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BabsR
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littlearabians
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Posted - 07 Sep 2011 : 10:57:19 AM
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Its a very nice story, but Ive seen it severltimes in warmbloods too.
My Pamir mare has one, my old TB had one... and my old vet used to say its acturlly a muscle trauma. |
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razgold
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Posted - 07 Sep 2011 : 1:27:39 PM
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actually that's quite true it is muscle trauma usually due to a kick. I have a young colt that has one on his neck that you can put your hand in and that was due to him being kicked as a foal by another horse. I also have a couple other horses that have much smaller ones.
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Zannyzan
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Posted - 07 Sep 2011 : 2:28:57 PM
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| My Dutch warmblood has a prophets thumb on his neck. My last horse had one too and she was an Irish sports horse |
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Kharidian
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Posted - 07 Sep 2011 : 4:17:33 PM
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Roger has one on the nearside of his neck (not so apparent at the moment as he's getting his winter coat). I can conclusively say it is NOT a muscle trauma as I've known him all his life (I delivered him!) and know every single injury he's ever had!
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aka "Roger".................................... aka "Chips"
     
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george
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Posted - 07 Sep 2011 : 6:40:15 PM
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| My little grey mare in 2nd sig pic Teebie has one at the base of her neck....she's very special anyway I too don;t think it is from a kick |
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Mags
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Posted - 07 Sep 2011 : 8:13:36 PM
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| I must be very lucky nearly every horse iv had has had one |
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onelifeliveit
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Posted - 08 Sep 2011 : 07:02:01 AM
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| my filly has two on her neck she's never had a muscle trauma either as i've known her from birth. She is a little monster sometimes though, ha ha, can't imagine her behaving like the mares in the legend, but who knows maybe one day? I love her too bits though |
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Sahir
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Posted - 08 Sep 2011 : 8:52:24 PM
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My lovely Ormmal who is nearly 23yrs of age has a Prophets Thumb Print on her neck on the offside.
She was born with it but despite that, some "know-it-all" said she must have staked herself when she was young  She is one very special lady |
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hazelcat74
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Posted - 09 Sep 2011 : 4:02:24 PM
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| Seems from the replies that it is mainly found in arabs/TBs and warmbloods, never seen a pony with one. Don't think my mare's was from a injury either, and she was a special girl, sadly died at just 14. |
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Tizzi10
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Posted - 09 Sep 2011 : 9:24:33 PM
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| My mother in laws welsh section d has one on his neck and its mentioned on his passport done as a foal. I have a friend with a connie who had one and my old tb did too. |
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Callisto
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Posted - 09 Sep 2011 : 9:33:50 PM
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| My welsh x tb has one on his shoulder, and I don't think it is the result of a trauma (he has arab blood about 9 generations back ), and he is very special |
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littlearabians
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Posted - 09 Sep 2011 : 9:34:10 PM
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My Pamir mare showing her "thumb" mark
edited to say.... Kwiryna WOULD come to me rather then drink if I asked her to... I have never had as loyal and intelligent a horse as her. |
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Pasch
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Posted - 09 Sep 2011 : 11:55:44 PM
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| Hazelcat,I have seen it in a pony,too.I don't know if she has any arab blood in her. |
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ejbear
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Posted - 10 Sep 2011 : 6:48:12 PM
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| Hi Etmann has two, one on his neck and one on his shoulder. I like to believe the story |
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