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kharnie1780
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 Posted - 23 Jul 2011 : 10:11:17 PM
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Hi, I am trying to find any breeding info for my horse but sadly when I bought him (2001) the lady hadnt got his papers from the previous owner. She did take down his date of birth - 10/06/1997 and name as Kharn but could be Khan and probably has extra to it but thats all she took.
I am looking for any help on how I can trace him as I would love to know how he is bred. He is believed to be polish arab. Would probably have been bay/grey or rose grey when registered.
Thanks for any help
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 24 Jul 2011 : 10:59:45 AM
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Difficult with so little information. Can you trace the last but one owner? Also a photo and full desription would help and where he was in the country.
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Callisto
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Posted - 24 Jul 2011 : 12:34:21 PM
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The only one I can find with that DOB is Murhib, chestnut.
There is Azadik Khan AHSB 29446 grey by Om el Azadik x Marediva
MAS Khan El Ajuz AHSB 29642 Chestnut by Crystal Raj x Shaleemah Star
Ashlyngs Yasakhan AHSB 29181 grey by Ibn Mikhan x Countess Symone
Khazino AHSB 29597 Bay by El Kaba x Royal Georgina
Elkana Nahseem Bay by Indian Sabre x Anatalya
This one sounds promising if you are sure about the Polish link - but would involve dyslexia:- Akhiran, bay by Fawor (bay, Polish) x Marih Lela (Grey)
Shakahn, bay by Syr Valiant (black) x Saahir (black) |
  Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
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kharnie1780
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Posted - 24 Jul 2011 : 1:35:18 PM
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Will try and add a photo for you, the owner before me was a friend and the one she got him from who I dont believe bred him was in the Navy so havent been able to track her down :(
Callisto thank you so much :) There are a couple of possibilities there...the grey azadik khan as would be easy to miss the first part of the name off, do you know the DOB for that one?
Also lol the dyslexic spelling one...it really could be as she may have called him Kharn for short or thought thats what it was! what was the DOB on that one? Do they give any breeder details? maybe if I can go back to breeders someone may remember him? He would have looked more bay as a foal then went grey, dont know what the breeder would have classed him as, to be fair though he could have even been chestnut to start off as many go grey dont they?
Sorry if im rambling im excited to maybe find something after all these years :D
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kharnie1780
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Posted - 24 Jul 2011 : 1:40:04 PM
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He was much darker than this pic, its hard to find one with him as chestnut looking. he had a dark mane and tail, stripe down his face too. will see what other pics I have.
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kharnie1780
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Posted - 24 Jul 2011 : 1:54:41 PM
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| he's not the first 2 found those on google....lol will check the rest :D |
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Callisto
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Posted - 24 Jul 2011 : 2:02:43 PM
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Hi Kharnie
All the possibles listed above only had 1997 as their date of birth. My grey girl was bright chestnut as a foal so that is a possibility. Your main problem will be if he wasn't registered in the first place, or if his name was actually something completely different.... My mare's known as Lily with us, her previous owners called her Kira and Kizzy, but her registered name is Zahkira (but she came with her papers so I know exactly who she is).
Akhiran was bred by Mrs Pam Brown. |
Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
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Callisto
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Posted - 24 Jul 2011 : 2:23:08 PM
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There is also Kharmativ - chestnut by Normativ (Russian, grey) out of Khaleb men Dhahab (chestnut) bred by Ms Jane Stevens (only 1 she is listed as breeding)
ETA also Kernal - chestnut by Kamilo x Flamira, both grandparents grey on Dam's side, bred by Mrs C P Thomas-Everard.
Ashlyngs Yarzakhan was bred by Mrs S I Higgins
Shakahn was bred by Mrs Karen Whittard (from Abdon, Shropshire)
Elkana Naseem was bred by Mrs L J Sawyer
Khazino (his dam was grey) was bred by Mrs Diane Jeffries |
Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
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Edited by - Callisto on 24 Jul 2011 2:30:22 PM |
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Callisto
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Posted - 24 Jul 2011 : 3:56:57 PM
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| It's not Khamativ - he's still chestnut and has competed in endurance. |
Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 24 Jul 2011 : 4:51:29 PM
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Akhiran would almost certainly have been bred at Silverdale as they had Marih Lela.
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Callisto
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Posted - 24 Jul 2011 : 5:29:17 PM
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Only one more with 'Khan' in the name
SHABAKHAN OF TEMPLARCROFT - AHSB*29239
Foal Date 1997
Color Chestnut
Gender Stallion
Sire ZIBAK
AHSB*13971 Chestnut 1982
Dam EISOR PRINCESS MALINKA
AHSB*24799 Chestnut 1993
Dam's Sire RINGING SOVEREIGN
AHSB*11420 Chestnut 1979
Studbook
Reference
Volume 18 Page 137
Breeder MR ERIC F. BRANDIE
He has grey ancestors at the grandparent/great grandparent level.
Cannot find anything with Kharn or Karn as part of the name |
Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
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Edited by - Callisto on 24 Jul 2011 5:32:42 PM |
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Lindsay
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Posted - 24 Jul 2011 : 5:50:26 PM
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| The Brandie's own Templarcroft Arabians and last I heard that boy was still with them. Contact them and see they might be able to either confirm or eliminate that boy. |
   
Paidir dóibhsean le fiántas ina gcroíthe acu, atá coinnithe i gcaighin |
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Sadika
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Posted - 24 Jul 2011 : 6:10:50 PM
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| Akhiran was bred in N Lancs by my friend the late Pauline Brown - present whereabouts unknow. Azadik Khan is a very well-known show gelding so it's not him. |
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Misshana
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Posted - 24 Jul 2011 : 11:06:55 PM
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| MAS Khan el Ajuz used to be mine. Now lives in Scotland, so its not him |
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kharnie1780
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Posted - 24 Jul 2011 : 11:53:30 PM
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Akhiran could be promising but not sure how I can follow this up now if the breeder is sadly no longer with us? I've looked at his sire but cant find a picture for the dam yet but he certainly has a look of him now (not in the younger pics but as he's matured).
Thanks everyone for all the help too, fingers crossed one of them is my boy :D |
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kharnie1780
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Posted - 25 Jul 2011 : 12:16:46 AM
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not Akhiran found him, still bay and been in same home since a foal etc :(
Dont think im ever going to find him, I dont know the other ladies name who was in the navy either so thats no help. |
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kharnie1780
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Posted - 25 Jul 2011 : 09:59:07 AM
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| managed to find out he came from Pilsley which is Chesterfield, Dervyshire but cant find the womans name who she got him from. I know of one breeder in chesterfield but he doesnt look like their stock. I cant imagine the woman went far for him though as she left him in a bare muddy paddock starving so I cant imagine she cared enough to travel far for him. She only had this one horse too. |
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Melynda
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Posted - 25 Jul 2011 : 5:17:46 PM
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There is a KHARN on NED.
Grey (Rose grey), Arab, Male, no date of birth.
Height 147 cm
Registered with Pet-ID Equine
No further details. If this is your chap someone might have lost the original papers and just registered him as an Arab with Pet-ID Equine. I don't know if it is worth contacting them to see if they hold any further details. There might even be a microchip.
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There is a KHAN
No colour, No breed, Male, Born 1997
Registered with EGB |
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Pashon2001
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Callisto
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Posted - 25 Jul 2011 : 5:30:08 PM
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Entry on the EGB database:-
Khan (10047)
Year of Birth: 1997 Colour: GREY Sex: G
There are 0 result(s) for this horse
This horse has no entries in the database
So it doesn't look as though this horse (if it is your boy) did much in endurance (although he could have just done pleasure rides). |
Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
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kharnie1780
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Posted - 26 Jul 2011 : 08:54:17 AM
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The Khan on NED and EGB is my boy but I have registered him on there. We do low level endurance. I have owned him from a 3 year old (now 14) and my friend owned him from a yearling so its the breeder and woman who owned him until a yearling that i'm trying to trace back :( The woman who owned him as a yearling lived in Chesterfield so im assuming he was bred in that area as she neglected him so I can imagine her going far to buy him. Could be wrong though!
So frustrating, if I could find the second woman I could find everything but I have no name for her and that she was in the navy :( I dont think I will ever find out but was worth trying. |
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