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Nacelle
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Posted - 18 Apr 2011 :  8:27:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Nacelle to your friends list Send Nacelle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
D is somewhat limping on her off fore. I thought it might have been laminitis as the vet did say it can occur in one foot, but keeping her in off grass hasnt helped. Neither has letting her walk around in a small area. Keeping her in seems to stress her out more though. She just stands at the door and nods her head up and down all day.
The vet is coming out on thursday but does anyone here have any idea?
I thought maybe she might have bruised this one now, but i cant find any sign on her foot to suggest it.
The ground here is different though. Its seems to be more stoney and the mud is sticky. It seems to build up quite quickly in her feet. The mud wasnt like this at the other place. I never had these kinds of problems there.
If it was laminitis then it would be stress related as i dont think shes eaten enough grass to cause it. The laminitis clinic site does say that stress from travelling and the loss of a long term companion can cause it
Shes still not eating all of her feed. Its only been a week since we moved again so i am hoping that she will start feeling better and eat more.
She looks like shes lost some weight since we first moved as well. She is making friends with the other two horses there, but there is a third horse that she was in a seperate field with before she went lame that is for sale.
I dont want her to get attached to that one as if shes sold then D wont be happy when shes taken away.
She probably still misses the little shetland as well.
Other than wait for the vet to come and advise i dont know what else to do for her.
NOthing has gone right since we moved.
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Fleas
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Posted - 18 Apr 2011 :  8:36:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Fleas to your friends list Send Fleas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Pulled a tendon or ligament damage? has she been haring about in her new place at all? has she any lumps in the leg at all?
Could you section off a small piece of field for her to be in as opposed to a stable so she stresses less whilst you wait for the vet?

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Nacelle
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Posted - 18 Apr 2011 :  8:48:46 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nacelle to your friends list Send Nacelle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No lumps, bumps or strange swellings. I sectioned off a small area around the stable with little grass for her.
She did go a bit nuts when we first arrived there. She trotted up and down the side of the field for a while, but that was a few days before she went lame and she was fine the next day after that.
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Tomos
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Posted - 18 Apr 2011 :  9:03:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tomos to your friends list Send Tomos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Could be an abcess ? most lameness problems are in the foot, there isn't always heat, and pain from an abcess could make her tuck up a bit,

Mandy

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Callisto
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Posted - 18 Apr 2011 :  9:07:02 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My first thought was also possibly an abcess - have you detected any heat in the foot at all?

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Nacelle
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Posted - 18 Apr 2011 :  10:05:06 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nacelle to your friends list Send Nacelle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Theres no unusual heat or signs of abscessing. When she abscessed in her other foot the symptoms were very obvious as she could hardly put any weight on it till it burst.
I cant find the digital pulse either but im not sure where it is exactly anyway.
Someone thought it might have been a pulled tendon but there nothing to suggest that and the way shes standing suggests foot.
It could be an abscess thats forming though in the foot without maybe any outward signs.
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Zan
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Posted - 19 Apr 2011 :  09:18:31 AM  Show Profile  Visit Zan's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Zan to your friends list Send Zan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It might be laminitis--even if it was caused by grass, removing her from the grass might not necessarily have an immediate effect. How old is she? Cushings related laminitis sometimes presents in one foot only, so if she is in her teens it might be that.I would give the vet a ring and ask him to bring x-ray equipment. If it is Cushings related laminitis the pedal bone can rotate very quickly, and it would be better to find out what is going on inside the foot as soon as you can.
I hope it isn't that, and the vet might come along and find a simple reason with an easy solutioin, but if he has the x-ray equipment with him it would save time waiting for a second visit.

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pinkvboots
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Posted - 19 Apr 2011 :  12:17:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pinkvboots to your friends list Send pinkvboots a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If its stony ground where she is turned out she could have bruised the sole, this can take weeks to heal, it could be laminitis the vet will check if the digital pulse is normal, ask the vet to show you how to find it, its easy enough, I tend to check Arabi's quite often only as I have had one with Lami (bit of paranoid behaviour) that way by checking yourself you can notice any change in the pulse as you will be used to how it should be normally, I hope its not lami fingers crossed for you


Edited by - pinkvboots on 19 Apr 2011 12:21:50 PM
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jasjmm
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Posted - 19 Apr 2011 :  6:52:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jasjmm to your friends list Send jasjmm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just had an incredibly deep seated abscess with Madaba over New Year. Absolutely NOTHING to see, farrier and vet checked it, then eventually found a tiny bit of puss in corner of foot. Hopping lame, almost couldn't put his foot to the ground. Hot poulticed for 3 days then dry poulticed. Lameness went away. Next time the farrier came, she found the old hole when paring his foot back, so we did finally know it had been an abscess!!

Change of ground and bruised sole sounds likely too though? Good luck with her,



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badders
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Posted - 19 Apr 2011 :  8:07:28 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add badders to your friends list Send badders a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Our arab gelding went lame last year. Not obviously laminitic, xrays confirmed pedal bone drop and rotation of 30 plus degrees. Nothing in all other feet, MRI to try and diagnose the cause. Nothing. Then I insisted on blood testing and he was found to have Equine Metabolic Syndrom which had caused this. Lots of pennies later, many months of stable rest and gradualk turnout and some magic trail medicing he is now out for 8 hrs a day being a horse again - not lame. worth talking to your vet about? Is you horse moulting properly and not putting on odd pads of fat - a tell tell sign. Good luck finding the cause.
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Nacelle
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Posted - 19 Apr 2011 :  9:16:07 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nacelle to your friends list Send Nacelle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Its looking more like an abscess i think. She was a bit worse today and was hopping around on it but when i had another look i did find a dark squishy area on the sole just down from the frog at the side, not on the point. Its a bit warm on that area but not around it.
I gave her extra danilon and she doesnt seem too bothered by it, but it is obviously painful for her.
I cant find the pulse though. Will have to ask the vet to show me, but if she had a big pulse going i doubt it would be hard to find.
She does seem to be moulting normally but has lost some weight due to move and not eating properly.
Will let you know what the vet says.
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Nacelle
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Posted - 21 Apr 2011 :  10:39:39 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nacelle to your friends list Send Nacelle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well the vet came and pared away some hoof. There was a hole with some pus in the sole, so it looks like its an abscess.
I put a poultice on it and hopefully that will draw it out.
The poor thing was worse this morning before the vet came and could hardly stand on the foot. The vet gave me stronger pain killers and said if it doesnt improve then she wants to do some x rays.
I just hope there isnt anything more serious going on in there. Shes been miserable since the moves and didnt even take a snap at the vet! And she always likes to bite the vet.
So worried now. Shes eating a bit more but still not finishing off all her feed.
I feel so awful. If we hadnt moved none of this would have happened.
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zebedeedeb
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Posted - 21 Apr 2011 :  11:01:51 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add zebedeedeb to your friends list Send zebedeedeb a Private Message  Reply with Quote
dont blame yourself, these things happen,, i bought my 18 month old arabxnew forest mare from the new forest sales,, she was extremely lame and i was the only one bidding on her,, it turned out she had abcessess in all 4 feet,,because she was unhandled it was 3 weeks before i could get the farrier to look at them.. but a few days after draining them she picked up and has made a full recovery, however she still has very tender soles, even after using keratex ,, and now she has just turned 8 and we are doing our horsemanship diploma together,, good luck and keep positive ,, best wishes deb xx

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saddlebred
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Posted - 22 Apr 2011 :  08:34:35 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add saddlebred to your friends list Send saddlebred a Private Message  Reply with Quote
She will be feeling rough if she has an abcess. They are so painful in the foot. Fayre was walking like she had broken her leg when she had hers. Once it has burst I am sure she will start eating again. They do take a while to settle when they have moved - as you know.

I am sure that now that she will have the sun on her back and some Dr. Green she will soon settle and be feeling back to her normal self.
Big hugs to you. You have been having a rough time of it.

Based Bewdley Worcs
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Fee
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Posted - 22 Apr 2011 :  11:42:30 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Fee to your friends list Send Fee a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nacelle sorry to say again I know how you feel, but I do!

When I moved my horses and had to change vet and farrier whom I loved then one thing after another going wrong with them, including abscesses which I'd never experienced before! I just had my had head in my hands blaming myself saying what the hell have you done! I wanted to go back, I wanted everything to go back to how it was. But I had a spark that told me to keep moving forward even though 'forward' felt like two steps back sometimes!

I know we're all on our individual journeys but they can be similar at times. I have to tell you I wouldn't change that move I made for a second! I now see the bigger picture. I see and understand what I had to do and learn and why. I'm sure one day you too will look back and see that. Although tough it was the best route for what had to be learned. Keep following your horse, they know what journey and route to take you on and why. It will all come good for you if you keep listening. Learning can be so damn hard sometimes!

Fee

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Nacelle
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Posted - 22 Apr 2011 :  7:19:26 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nacelle to your friends list Send Nacelle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for all the advice. I just dont know what else i can do.
The abscess is coming out with the poultice, but your right, she is walking like she has a broken leg! Her foot looks a real mess at the moment with yellow pus coming out of the sole but all i can do is change the poultice twice a day and hope the painkillers kick in.
I got some bran to go in her feed and made it all mashy with soaked high fibre cubes. I hope she eats it.
She was feeling quite hot today as it was hot and sunny. For some reason she was stood out in the sun and not in her shelter.
Im getting really worried, she seems so down at the moment. I dont want her to give up.
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