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Cinnypony
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Posted - 13 Jan 2011 : 8:37:34 PM
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Glad to hear she's happy - you listened to her and the result is that you have a happy girl.
Cinny is another one who is happier out as she'd rather be with her friends. I just make sure that they have enough forage that they can be warm from the inside whatever the weather and that there is either natural shelter or a field shelter.
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LYNDILOU
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 10:23:17 AM
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I KNOW my own horses and I KNOW they want to be in at night unless its summer, also I don't want them standing in mud all day AND night. neither do they. they hate the mud, they are after all Arabian horses, thinner in skin than natives , they cant cope with wet and windy conditions dispite what people who think they know best say. they also like their routine and because of that they get what they want, wouldn't life be easy for me if they just stood out 24/7! but its not going to happen full stop. |
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Arachnid
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England
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Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 10:58:53 AM
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Doesnt it largely depend on where the horse is turned out too? I wouldnt leave Spider out all night on the top of the South Downs which is very exposed despite good rugging etc. I might consider it if the grazing was several feet lower down and there was a field shelter or even hedging.I agree with Lynda, the mud is a deciding factor at the minute even for us (we dont normally get mud as the chalk drains so quickly) At this time of the year its nice to be able to dry their feet out apart from anything. |
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Callisto
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Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 11:18:03 AM
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Well today is miserable, our chiefly clay fields are full of standing water and horrible clinging mud. The two welsh x tb ponies are refusing to come out of the field shelter, and we have decided to keep the big ones in. If it improves later we will turn them out, but I see no point in having them stood out in the wind and rain, 6 inches deep in mud in places, churning the surface up even more. As far as I am concerned I strongly disagree with 24 hour stabling, but one has to make decisions based on what the situation is at the time. The part native ponies' refusal to leave their field shelter made my mind up for me (and yes they both have rugs on). |
Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta) Linda East Sussex |
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Kazzy
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England
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Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 11:26:05 AM
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At the end of the day we domesticated horses, we took them away from their naturel surroundings where they could get proper shelter from horrendous weather and we put them into fields were they cant escape.
My lad hates and I mean hates the rain and mud and I think I am being an unreasonable owner letting him stay out in the mud and rain, he much prefers to be in, even though we dont have muddy fields, just around the gateway, and if the field gate is shut and he cant get into his stable when its raining when I open the gate he goes in on his own. That tells me he would prefer to be in.
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lehla
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United Kingdom
336 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 2:32:12 PM
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well my my some people have got quite upset on this thread the person in question was asking for advice and people have given advice on what they would do just there opinion but it seems if everybody dosent agree then we are all wrong and should be burnt at the steak(only joking)whats the point of having a disscusion forum if people are going to get really upset we all have are own opinions and my personal opinion for what its worth have them out as much as possible jmo i have to day this is why i dont really post very much anymore lehla |
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Tzarina
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England
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Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 2:42:34 PM
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Hear, hear Lehla. Sorry you dont visit as often, I feel like that sometimes, but I refuse to let the minority spoil it for the majority. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but when you are rounded on when you dont agree with that person's way of thinking, that is when I get annoyed. Dont let others spoil it for you |
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"The horse is God's gift to mankind."
"The daughter who wont lift a finger in the house is the same child who cycles madly off in the pouring rain to spend all morning mucking out a stable."
"All horses deserve to be loved by at least one little girl during their life" |
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Rui
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Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 3:12:56 PM
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A forum such as this is a resource that is only as valuable as the opinions of the members that choose to reply are. The more members who reply, the more experience is contributed and that's what gives value to such a forum. Sometimes it's hard not to take things personally, but if we all do take them personally, it's hard to avoid becoming upset, at some point. If the reaction to such a situation is to stop posting, that is a contribution to make the forum less valuable, because when that happens,the member that takes such a decision will no longer be contributing with its own experience. In the end, that is detrimental to the forum as a whole.
No one is required to contribute, but if everyone stops contributing, this resource, which may have been valuable in so many ways, will become less valuable. That may be not so relevant for some time (or even most of the time), but if you happen to need to tap this valuable common knowledge, for some reason, and it's no longer here, then that loss may hit closer to home, too.
So, as an admin, I can only suggest, with the kind permission of all members, that things are not taken personally and that all keep contributing as much as possible to the amazing amount of knowledge about the Arab horse that this forum's members have shown time and again.
Thank you. |
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lehla
Silver Member
United Kingdom
336 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 7:55:39 PM
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RUI in all fairness some of the comments on this subject are nothing to do with experiences its damm right rudeness and seems to be singling certain people out for offering there experiences and advice lehla |
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Zenitha
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England
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Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 7:57:20 PM
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Very nicely put Rui
I bet poor Sheena wishes she'd never put this thread up !
It's funny because they are all different though - my new mare Alika is itching to get out in the mornings - gallops off tail in the air, has a sniff round, then decides she's had enough and comes back to the gate to be let back in ! She's really the only one like that though, the others are quite happy to stay out !
Sheena, I'm glad Verona is happy. The two foals of mine that have lived out all Winter are just as well grown, well covered and good mannered as the two that have stabled in at night. I think as long as you meet their individual needs, they're warm, well fed, have good company and a loving owner, horses are pretty easy to please. Shame the same can't be said for us owners
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natntaz
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England
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Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 8:04:00 PM
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Rui, As i have said in my post. I dont say to anyone they are wrong for keeping there horses out 24/7 but i also dont think they should judge how i keep mine. We are all doing what we think is right but for some reason we always get people being negative. I will defend what i think is best for my horses, but i do always try not to be rude but just to the point. |
Natalie Pix. Essex. Tariq ibn Radfan and Taroub |
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nikki83
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Posted - 14 Jan 2011 : 8:29:38 PM
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Hi Sheena! Glad you have found a soloution and that she is happier I also keep Dine on a livery yard where we have restricted turnout, he has been getting more and more grumpy but I have spoken to yard owner and come up with a solution which now means Dine is out all day and has a playmate 100% of the time. He is now a trillion times happier, had no more grumpy episodes since this arrangement. He still comes in at night, he has his tea and a few muches of hay and then normally nods off It makes me happy that he is happy Nikki x |
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suyents
Platinum Member
United Kingdom
1651 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jan 2011 : 6:19:21 PM
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Wise words Rui, but as one of the very first members of Arabian Lines i have to admit that i now think more than twice about contributing to many of the topics listed, in spite of the fact that i initially feel the desire to do so! There is just too much judgementaliam and sheer outright prejudice aired these days on the forums, for everyone to have the necessary strength of character needed to contribute, and all too often end up being personally attacked...Take a look at the people who used to post on here regularly ten years ago, most of them are still involved with Arabs, and we all loved Arabian Lines..where are they now, and how many of them are silent? |
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LYNDILOU
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Jan 2011 : 12:05:14 PM
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I am still here, just!, I dont tell anyone how they should keep their horses, I do try to give advice if it is asked for. I always hope that people will ask for advice and then weigh up All the options, thinking what is best for the horse before making any decisions . |
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Honeyb060674
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 Jan 2011 : 12:24:09 PM
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Its great that you have found a solution that keeps your lovely little girl happy! So many horses so many personalities..they're all different & need to be treated accordingly! Well done you for sorting things out |
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Tzarina
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England
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Posted - 16 Jan 2011 : 1:05:18 PM
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I have too agree with Suyen and Lynda, I'm still here, but always have to think now before I post, whereas in the old days, I just scribbled away. When you look at old posts, the amount of people who are no longer here, makes you wonder why, as said a lot of them are still Arab involved. I will always respect people's opinions and try to help where I can, but object to being told what to do because certain people think their way is right. What happened to democracy on here |
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"The horse is God's gift to mankind."
"The daughter who wont lift a finger in the house is the same child who cycles madly off in the pouring rain to spend all morning mucking out a stable."
"All horses deserve to be loved by at least one little girl during their life" |
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Fee
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Posted - 16 Jan 2011 : 1:45:59 PM
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Have to admit I dont notice anyone telling anyone what to do on here. The written word can be interpretated so wrongly as can the oral of course! Some people will come across in all different ways because of their personality, experiences and passion on a subject. It's just normal imo and not to be attacked. I like this forum and how it's run and i think the members are supportive. When I ask for advice it's good to gets lots and weigh everything up with your situation in mind. Life's too short. If people dont post anymore doesn't necessarily mean they dont like the members or the forum any longer.
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Rui
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Posted - 16 Jan 2011 : 2:59:49 PM
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Things in real life are never simple and, unfortunately, no one has the ultimate solution to every problem. The good thing about a site such as this, as I said before, is the incredible amount of knowledge provided by its members. Most of the times, whenever someone asks for help, there will be different solutions, offered by different members, according to their own experiences and what has worked well for them. I believe any posting by members offering their advice based on their own experiences is an act of generosity, because it means that they cared enough to spend time posting, trying to help. It falls to the reader to choose whatever he or she finds best for their own situation. It's like being in a restaurant where a buffet is being offered - hopefully there will be plenty of choices, but it's one's responsibility to choose what to eat. Sometimes the choices made are excellent, sometimes they could better.
Choosing an advice over another is not detrimental for anyone who provided the advice the member chose not to follow. Getting personal over other member's choices or advice provided is not needed and it can actually put off members asking for help. If that happens, seems no one gains from it, and it's even a bit paradoxical - if someone posts with the intent of helping another member and that has the consequence that the member may refrain from posting for help again, the original goal will have been totally missed.
So, my appeal, if you want to see it like that, is for all of you to keep on posting helping others with your most valuable knowledge and experience, while keeping in mind that the overall goal is to help others, to enjoy the common love for Arabian horse, and to have an experience that's as much rewarding to everybody as possible. If possible, please avoid anything that may be detrimental to achieve all these goals.
Please accept my apologies for the long post.
Thank you .
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