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LYNDILOU
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 Posted - 25 Nov 2010 : 08:32:13 AM
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feed lindseed anymore and how?
I used to cook it which was messy and took ages, people in the old days used to say it was poisonous to be fed raw, but I use it for myself as flaxseed, full of OMega 3, ground up bought that way in health food shops, so how is it dangerous?
I have bought a big bag of it from my feed merchants ( much cheaper than health food shops) to grind up myself , but I wonder if I gave it to the horses this way or would I still need to cook it? any thoughts?
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pinkvboots
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 : 08:40:40 AM
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| We buy our linseed already cooked and its ground and dried into a powder, it looks a darkish brown colour bit like the texture of breadcrumbs, if you have bought a bag from your feed shop my guess would be its already cooked and dried so its safe to feed in this form, simple systems sell it this way if you look on their website you can see how it looks. |
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doug ault
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 : 08:41:50 AM
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Hi Lyndilou
we used to feed boiled linseed but as you said it is soooo messy. We now use linseed lozenges and linseed/grass pellets. Linseed ALWAYS has to be boiled - just found this on the web
"Linseed is highly nutritious and rich in proteins and oils. It is the small brown seed of the flax or linen plant.
Fed as a linseed jelly, cake or oil it has the benefits of improving the horse's condition and produce a glossy shine to an equine coat.
Linseed is also available in an oil-extracted cake for feeding to horses. The linseed cake is sometimes an ingredient in coarse horse feed mixes.
To benefit a horse or pony linseed must be cooked before it can be fed - either as a linseed jelly or tea.
When raw or uncooked linseed is poisonous to horses - it contains cyanide containing compounds linustatin, linamarin and neolinustatin as well as an enzyme which liberates the poison cyanide if the linseed is fed raw."
Hope this helps
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LYNDILOU
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doug ault
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 : 09:03:51 AM
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| Dont worry too much, all almonds, hazelnuts etc, contain cyanide in the skins,( you would have to eat a lot to have any detremental efect...) as a natural protection against boreing insects,in fact you can distinguish cyanide by the smell of almonds, |
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LYNDILOU
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moatside
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weirton
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 : 10:43:12 AM
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I soak mine overnight and cook in the microwave with the barley.
Never use uncooked, a friend lost a horse by doing this.
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 : 10:45:50 AM
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| Yes - you can get linseed cake ready to fed now - little flat pellets and just add a handful to feed. It's excellent useable protein which is why it has dramatic results. |
    
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 : 10:58:18 AM
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I have just copied this off a web site , so I think I will live ! however I wont feed it uncooked to the horses
Cyanide: Like many other foods (cashews, some beans, and others), flax contains very small amounts of cyanide compounds, especially when consumed raw. Heat, especially on dry flax seeds, breaks these compounds down. However, our bodies have a capacity to neutralize a certain amount of these compounds, and the U.S. government agencies say that 2 tablespoons of flaxseed (~3 T of flax meal) is certainly safe and is probably an “effective dose” for health purposes. Various researchers who have used up to 6 daily tablespoons of the seed in different studies indicate that the amount they were using was safe.
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Vera
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 : 11:28:36 AM
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More and more people in this country are feeding it raw as the amounts fed aren't big enough to cause a problem.
I lived in Germany for 11 years and it was certainly fed raw over there.
I feed my lot micronised linseed. You can get it cheaply from Charnwood Mills by the sack. |
    
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LYNDILOU
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Qui Gon Jinn
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 : 12:22:31 PM
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I wondered about linseed too as the feed company I'm about to order from have Linseed Lozenges.
Does anyone else feed these and if so how much do you use and how do you find them. Sorry to hi-jack your thread Linda. |
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sab2
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 : 12:25:20 PM
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| I feed linseed everyday to my lot , i use Simple Systems feeds and buy their large bags of cooked Linseed, gives the horses a lovely shine on their coats. |
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Eeyore
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 : 1:22:48 PM
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I feed micronised linseed from Charnwood milling in the summer. They will deliver a sack to you no problem.
In the winter I use l'Anson linseed lozenges. The reason I only use these in winter is that they have added glucose and both of mine are good doers. I get these from my local feed merchant and when I bought my first bag I contacted the company to ask about how much to feed. They were really helpful and you only need to feed a small amount. They can be sprinkled onto feeds or fed as treats |
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lehla
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 : 2:28:24 PM
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| hi linda i feed ground linseed to jack i buy it in a big sack i just grind it in a small seed/coffee grinder by grinding it it releases the stuff that is supposed to be dangerous to horses so by grinding it is perfectly safe also jmo that by not cooking it you are not loosing any of the nutrients and jmo again buying the lozenge you loose nutrients but also gain sugar which for my horse i didnt want so grinding was the way to go for me i also use the same linseed but i dont grind it as its not harmful to humans like you spinkle on cereal and into smoothies hope this helps lehla |
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Vera
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 : 2:58:40 PM
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| I will just clarify that when I say about feeding the linseed raw I mean exactly how Lehla describes. The seeds are ground up and fed as is - no cooking or micronising. The whole seed isn't fed. |
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templars
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 : 5:40:48 PM
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We feed linseed cake as well.
And as for cyanide - don't worry too much - it's in lettuce as well. You can kill rabbits with too much lettuce! Mind you, a handful before bedtime can help you sleep and if you get mastitis, line your bra with it and it helps with that too!
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 : 6:26:11 PM
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What do you grind it with Donna? I used my blender tonight but it over heated also what quantity do you feed it? I thought a cup full per feed might be benificial? |
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lehla
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 : 6:40:45 PM
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| linda you can use a small coffee grinder/seed grinder i use a cup a day depending what you are using it for would depend on how much you use general supplement/ weight gain /joints/skin i suppose the list is endless as it has many benifits hope this helps lehla |
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xsara
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 : 7:00:41 PM
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| I just feed linseed oil from the saddlery puts a shine on there coats near instantly |
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Jess.And.Tiger
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Posted - 25 Nov 2010 : 11:31:55 PM
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twice a day for my boy, only thing that helps his mane itching funnily enough!!!
He has it in oil form!!! He LOVES it!!!
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doug ault
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Posted - 26 Nov 2010 : 05:02:04 AM
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| Rachel, the stuff in lettuce is what the Victorians called laudnum, Opium to you and me, its that white sap that runs out when you cut it. at least the bunnys die happy....and never eat spuds that have green skins, lots of cyanide in that... |
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Edited by - doug ault on 26 Nov 2010 05:04:23 AM |
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Does anyone...............?
I ground some up and sprinkle it on my breakfast!
