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KittyB
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Posted - 16 Nov 2010 :  1:59:27 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add KittyB to your friends list Send KittyB a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Can anyone recommend a good Alfalfa free chop? I've been happy with Dengie Hi Fi Lite for years, but now want to go alfalfa free.


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Callisto
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Posted - 16 Nov 2010 :  3:33:02 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ours quite liked apple chaff, it has lower protein levels etc. than Alfalfa based products.

Edited to add

We decided to stick to alfalfa because of the fact that it has higher protein levels etc.

Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
East Sussex

Edited by - Callisto on 16 Nov 2010 5:45:23 PM
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Pasha
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Posted - 16 Nov 2010 :  3:51:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pasha to your friends list Send Pasha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What's wrong with Alfafa? Just changed mine from Happy Hoof to Alfa A Mollasses Free as Pasha thrived on Alfa A his whole life until he got Cushings Lami and we took him off it.

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templars
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Posted - 16 Nov 2010 :  6:10:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add templars to your friends list Send templars a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Isn't Mollichop Alfalfa free?

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Suelin
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Posted - 16 Nov 2010 :  7:03:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Suelin to your friends list Send Suelin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Honeychop. Made with oat straw.
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Misshana
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Posted - 16 Nov 2010 :  10:30:18 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Misshana to your friends list Send Misshana a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We are using Ossichaff this year. Garlic or sweet flavour. Mine doesnt like mollichop. He's a veteren now and a feed stockist told me feeding alfa all the time is like feeding an older person brussels/broccoli all the time. So far he's doing real well on Ossichaff and its cheaper!!
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Vera
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Posted - 16 Nov 2010 :  11:04:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vera to your friends list Send Vera a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Readigrass or Graze On is grass with absolutely nothing added.


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loosefur
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 :  08:19:04 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add loosefur to your friends list Send loosefur a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Most chops and chaffs are packed full of molasses which of course we all should be avoiding feeding to our horses. Dengie now do a HiFi Molasses Free but if you want to go alfalfa free then Just Grass by Dodson and Horall is a good option, better than Readigrass as it is mixed species grasses rather than just a ryegrass based chop like Readigrass. Alfalfa can be fed fairly safely to some horses but many horses cannot tolerate it - it can lead to poor quality hooves, skin problems, behaviourial problems, ulcers etc.
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barbara.gregory
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 :  08:51:55 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add barbara.gregory to your friends list Send barbara.gregory a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Since I stopped using alfalfa my horses no longer get mud fever.

Barbara

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Zan
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 :  09:18:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit Zan's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Zan to your friends list Send Zan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Has anyone used Badminton Easy Rider? I believe it is low in sugar and alfalfa free, and am looking for something suitable for a good doer who has had laminitis before I got him-- think the straight dried grass chaffs might not be a good idea for him.

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Vera
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 :  10:35:46 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vera to your friends list Send Vera a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Heather - I feed it to my ponies. What I like is that I can give them a scoop full so they are happy with a 'big' dinner. With so many feeds you can only give the really good doers a tiny handful.


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phoenixbruka
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 :  1:39:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit phoenixbruka's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add phoenixbruka to your friends list Send phoenixbruka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My boy has L.V. so he has redigrass or graze on, freeze dried grass with nothing added, smells lovely and they adore it!

susie


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Kazzy
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 :  4:51:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kazzy to your friends list Send Kazzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was thinking of changing from Happy hoof becuase it contains Alfalfa and my lad suffers LV, even though he got it this year and wasnt on any feed whatsoever but the last bag of happy hoof as changed again!!! Its full of hard bits of Alfalfa or something similar and he doesnt like it one bit.

He is a right fuss pot with what he eats though and doesnt like Molasasses fullstop so any feed with a lot of molassases in he wont eat it.

Janet



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KittyB
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 :  4:51:54 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KittyB to your friends list Send KittyB a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nothing wrong with alfalfa (!) but am trying an alternative diet due to skin problems and the general consensus on this forum seems to be that alfalfa can be part of the problem.

Thanks for all your suggestions . Think I'll try either D&H Just Grass or the Badminton Easy Rider if I can get hold of it.


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Kazzy
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 :  5:00:40 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kazzy to your friends list Send Kazzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ANyone use Dodson and Horrell safe and sound? Looks ok and by what I can read there is no Alfalfa in it.

Janet



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Zan
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 :  5:19:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit Zan's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add Zan to your friends list Send Zan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Vera---will give it a try. I have been feeding him Happyhoof, which is recommended by the Laminitis Trust, and was shocked to discover that it actually has a fairly high molasses content.

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phoenixbruka
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 :  6:32:26 PM  Show Profile  Visit phoenixbruka's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add phoenixbruka to your friends list Send phoenixbruka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
D+H safe and sound is full of alfalfa, one of my liveries has it


www.liveryatcordwell.co.uk

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KittyB
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Posted - 17 Nov 2010 :  8:16:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KittyB to your friends list Send KittyB a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Having looked through Badminton Feeds' webpages, their Supreme Chaff and/or Herbal Chaff sounds the sort of stuff I'm looking for. Alfalfa free and low molasses.




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plum
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 :  07:32:21 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add plum to your friends list Send plum a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Im really confused now!!! I have been feeding my mare what I thought was healthy fibre based diet of speedibeet and alfa A oil with pink powder. She was very ill last year and lost loads of weight and all the weight gain feeds just seemed to make her worse.It was only the grass this summer that saved her and helped her gain weight.SO should I now drop the Alfa and feed her one of the grasses could it be causing a problem too she has dropped a little weight again recently.
If so which rass product is the best for weight gain and is it ok to feed soya oil too!!!
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Callisto
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Posted - 18 Nov 2010 :  08:04:49 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If your mare is happy on Alfa then there is no reason to stop feeding it. Her slight weight loss may well be seasonal. She could well drop more weight if you take her off the Alfa A Oil and put her on a less nutritious chaff.

We have fed ours Readigrass in addition (to supplement hay ration) at night.

Our 6 are on a combination (amount depending on size) of horse & pony nuts, sugarbeet and Alfa A in the morning, turned out during the day, horse & pony mix, sugerbeet and Alfa A in the evening (with chopped apples), hay ration overnught. Access to mineral lick in stables. They are all looking very healthy

Zahkira (GR Amaretto x Taffetta)
Linda
East Sussex

Edited by - Callisto on 18 Nov 2010 08:08:09 AM
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