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debs
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 Posted - 02 Nov 2010 : 3:24:34 PM
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Have had a few days off work, and to fill some time I have just read the epic Tail female topic! (all 80 odd pages!!!)
Am googly eyed now so will be going out for some fresh air....
Egberts insight is amazing. Loved reading about all the horses 'discussed' and of course looking at the lovely photo's.
Have all the prophecies been fulfilled? Would love to know...
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 02 Nov 2010 : 4:50:01 PM
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Gari, ( Egbert) has a wonderful insight into pedigrees and she is often right , but she did say to me one day, that often the horse standing in front of you may not be the one the pedigree indicates  although she was right about most I think
poor Gari has been ill and is fighting the battle of her life right now , so I hope you will all join me in praying for her. we spoke a few days ago and she is as optimistic as ever and when she beats this as I know she will , we are going to take a trip together to Kuwait to see a friend and his amazing stud! while some here may not know her , do look up her Carmargue tribute on here A/lines , you will see pictures of her and get an insight into her life
I am catching a flight home tonight and should be back in wet and cold east sussex tomorrow morning  |
   
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debs
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Posted - 02 Nov 2010 : 6:18:05 PM
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Oh no, please send her my best wishes, hope she returns to good health soon. Hope you both have a fantastic trip when she is better! x
The thread was amazing reading, and yes from the replies she was very accurate!
have a good flight.... no rain at the moment! |
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Fee
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Posted - 02 Nov 2010 : 6:50:26 PM
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Oh no! I do hope Gari recovers to full health. Sending her my very best 
When Gari analysed Polka's pedigree I had just got her and she was unbacked and we didn't know each other well so this thread made me look back on what Gari said about her. She said...
She is and is not her mother's girl...In disposition and character she will still have that honest, reliable character that is inherent to the Milordka dam line but with the addition of a trace of mischief...She will spook at a log because it will be fun but hold her ground when it is something like a fire snorting dragon! She should be rounder than her dam with a shorter head, balanced and not quite as fine but more robust, ready to take on the world. Polka is going to be a lot of fun! With her sire line to El Shaklan, by the way, she should also be quite a people lover...fascinated with them. She will do very well in halter, I'd think as she is loaded with top notch halter horses through her sire. Not only *El Shaklan and her sire and grandsire, but Kaiyoum was also a Res. US National Champion as Canadian and his sire Khemosabi was a US National Champion in both halter and performance. Raffon was a US National Champion and Bayanka was the dam of multiple champions to Nationals level and is doubled in the pedigree. She is a Kuhailan Moradi-of listening mare fame and prepared to signal the approach of danger. Polka also carries multiples of Amurath Sahib through both Bayanka and Arax. Amurath Sahib seems to impart great quality very consistently. What a great mare!
Wow! Now I'm out riding her that part in bold is so true!! When I think it's something huge and she'll lose it she faces it and stands like a little rock! Only today I was thinking that in 4 days I've had Polka 2 years!
Thank you Gari, hope you feel better soon xx 
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Bexandspooky
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Roseanne
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Posted - 02 Nov 2010 : 7:51:51 PM
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Can we send our very, very best wishes and positive thoughts to Gari please Lynda?
I'd love her to know I'm thinking about her and I am sure many more on AL would too.
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 02 Nov 2010 : 7:59:32 PM
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I will pass on your best wishes I know all from A/lines wishes her the best in her battle , she has been so brave and shrugs it all off as no big deal But I know thats just Gari being Gari
just off to the airport and its tipping down with rain  , the first for all the time I have been here. |
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Cinnypony
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Posted - 02 Nov 2010 : 8:51:50 PM
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Hope Gari feels better soon.
Her comments re Cinny were:
"What a fascinating pedigree! Sire line to Skowronek via *Nabor/Negatiw/Naseem and the dam line is to the Polish mare, Scherifa OA, bred in Syria and her strain is Gehelt El Scharif OA! Tends to breed as a strong Kuhailan. That said-WOW! Though her dam was bred by Michael Harris-one of the UK's most astute breeders, her bloodlines are drawn from the collection of Dr.s Theobold, if I recall correctly. Years and years ago Iona Bowring-McVean (Silver Sheen's owner and breeders of dozens of brilliant horses) took me to see the Theobolds and I was absolutely bowled over by their horses. All simply gorgeous. Those folks were what I would call the real deal-MASTER BREEDERS. Everything was textbook quality beauty and it certainly looks like Cinnabar Moth fits that paradigm. You are going to have a ball with her. Not only is beauty a standout in the pedigree but so is athletic riding horses. She may be 14 hands but you will have more fun with her than you would with a lot of 16 hand critters. Keep us posted!"
At the time Gari wrote this Cinny was recovering from strangles and I'd barely done anything with her - it'd been a difficult first 9 months of first horse ownership.
However since then Cinny has gone from v green to open level endurance horse, we do jumping and her temperament as we've grown to know each other is the sweetest and intelligent- so Gari was spot on. |
    
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lisa rachel
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Posted - 02 Nov 2010 : 9:26:15 PM
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Gari always says tail female to Bint Helwa are extremely sweet horses, this was SO true for my dear Audin, I have bred from his full sister, using purely by coincidence, a tail female Bint Helwa stallion ..though temperament was a major factor in choosing him.
The resulting foal is sweetness personified!
Bint Helwa's mum was the Ali Pasha Sherif mare Helwa ... which means sweet in Arabic!
Having said that obviously any ancestors can potentially contribute to the genetic make up of a horse and even then a lot of the genetic characteristics carried in a given horse's DNA will not be expressed, but may be passed on.
Gari is a kind and knowledgeable lady, I hope she will be feeling well enough soon to enjoy that Kuwait trip. |
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joanna_piana
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Posted - 02 Nov 2010 : 9:39:55 PM
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Sorry to hear Gari is not well sending her best wishes for a full recovery
Just had a quick flick through can't believe that topic started in 2006 how the time flies. Was most interested to read the comments about the Rodania lines being hot - Ishara has three lines to Rodania hmmmmmmm explains a lot  |
      
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Sadika
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Mrs DJ
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Posted - 06 Nov 2010 : 8:57:08 PM
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Best wishes to Gari - her fascinating threads made riveting reading.
Most of it was way too complicated for me to take in though 
Hope she feels better soon |
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jackiedo
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Posted - 07 Nov 2010 : 08:13:03 AM
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 07 Nov 2010 : 1:03:24 PM
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When I told her I was using AJA Justified on my Crimbo daughter Venus, she was so excited, she just knew it was going to be a marriage made in heaven , I have to agree she wasn't wrong there
I count myself honored to be a friend of Gari's and we have spent many a happy day getting up to" mischief" (that's what she calls having fun) together  here with me in Scottsdale one year edited for grammar
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kathleen
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Posted - 07 Nov 2010 : 7:28:33 PM
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I loved this topic so much
It took me untill page 40 to ask about my mare
Gari is fantastic i pmed 1st and she asked me to post this is what she said
Alliya's pedigree is fabulous! Her sire line goes back to the Ali Pasha Sherif stallion of Mahruss whose presence usually is indicative of exceptional intelligence and loyalty. Since her sire Mareschal traces to Mahruss via the stunning King Cotton Gold, one instantly senses that she would be very beautiful and with the chestnut coloring she would also carry that extra smidgen of all that is great in the pedigree's promise. Marechal's dam, Charming Shadows was nearly exquisite but because there is the renowned Kuhailan Rodania dam line, she would be beautiful AND robust as well. So, beautiful, kind and blessed with double Naziri in the pedigree, looks would always be a number one priority of the Mareschal dam line.
Alliya's dam line adds yet more lines to Naziri via Pale Shadow, dam of Bright Shadow, she adds the extra brilliance and quality as does Count Dorsaz. Finally tracing back to the excellent and exceptionally reliable for soundness, great riding and showing potential, Nuhra the gift mare from the Sheikh of Bahrain to the Earl of Athlone, she was a Wadnan Khirsniah.
Basically what it means is that you have one of the great mares with which you can have enormous fun breeding from, expecting with each different cover a horse of exceptional quality and beauty-they might look very different from one another, i.e., the Seglawi babies would be finer over all, more upright, and breathtaking while the Kuhailans would be more robust, brilliant moving. There are a number of horses I'd look at initially. First any of the Carmargues whose dam line makes them a Seglawi,e.g., Ali Khamsin, Arazi, WSA Charismma, et. al., then stallions like Tobago, Narim, Dervatiw Gwyddion for the more Kuhailan look and finally just about any straight Crabbet stallion to lock in the essence of Crabbet Park and the Crabbet Super Horse...Am particulary thinking of the Klinta stallions as they are fairly uniquely bred tracing to the wonderful Hamdani Simri, Sobha, with that exceptional quality and smoothness AND are now available in England.
You are truly blessed with a tremendous mare and will look forward to hearing how you breed her over the years! What fun! Thank you for posting the picture!
since then Alliya has had the lovely Masliya who is by the 100% Flashy crabbet Marbon Masadi by Naresh |
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Egbert
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Posted - 07 Nov 2010 : 10:19:01 PM
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Dearest All and Lynda,
Many thanks for your kind words and thoughts! Yes, please keep me in your prayers!
Gotta ask Kathleen....PICTURES???? Would love to see the filly!
Right now am up to my eyeballs with going back and forth to Stanford for medical treatment (3 hours each way) and preparing for the move to Arizona. For anyone who has moved a house you have lived in for 35 odd years....you have my deepest sympathy....
Life has indeed taken a challenging turn BUT have had a tremendous opportunity to meet some absolutely wonderful people and of course I am always trying to involve them with the Arabian horse!
Thank you once more for your kind thoughts!
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Callisto
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Posted - 07 Nov 2010 : 11:07:08 PM
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Good luck with your treatment and your move - hope it all goes well  |
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kathleen
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Egbert
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Posted - 08 Nov 2010 : 03:16:40 AM
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Callisto-Me too! Thank you!
Kathleen!
Wow! How does one spell A W E S O M E! What a super filly! Congrats on your selection of a great sire....Just couldn't be better! |
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kathleen
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debs
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kathleen
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numbbum
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Posted - 09 Nov 2010 : 5:50:51 PM
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| Gari, I don't know you personally, but from what I have just read you sound a fascinating, knowledgeable person who obviously has a great love of the Arabian breed. May the Angels be with you as you return to good health and your new home be filled with love, laughter and happiness. |
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T42
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Posted - 10 Nov 2010 : 9:54:17 PM
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Fascinating topic. My horse's dam is Focus Shayla, (sire is Kamarish), so I went onto all breeds & traced the dam line right back to the last one - A Saqlawiyah Jidraniyah. Does this mean my horse is Saqlawi? What does that mean? Do they have any particular character traits?
My last horse was Saqlawi - I know that because he was on the Polish database & that tells you what the dam line is.
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jaj
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Posted - 10 Nov 2010 : 10:12:45 PM
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Gari I'm so sorry to hear that you are ill at the moment and do wish you well very soon. Can't believe that you are moving house on top of everything else as well  !
You wrote lovely things about my Kuraishiya back a few years ago on the legenday tail female topic - she has had a gorgeous foal by Lynda's Charismma now so more genes to add to the pot !
Wishing you a safe move and a speedy recovery .
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