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alkarif
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  4:04:04 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add alkarif to your friends list Send alkarif a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have just been on the Horse and Hound Forum and there is a topic on the New section entitled "Breed of Horses that you hate!" bet most of you can guess thet the arab is featured on most of the thread. Why? because we are not out there enough promoting our arabs at grass roots levels. We are too insular, keeping ourselves to ourselves then when we really do compete people are gobsmacked that these "Scatty" Arabs can actually perform at any discipline and worse than that even beat THEM at their own game. Come on folks this has gone on for years and we are still beating the same drum. Get onto that Horse and Hound Forum and create about the arab bashing but more to the point get out and compete in the real world prove the quality and versatility. We already know the qualities of this amazing breed to many others are ignorant to the facts about them it is up to us to take them out on a level playing field not just hide away at Arab Shows.



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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  4:20:48 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Horse and hound Forum , (horses you hate?) anyone who hates any horse whatever the breed doesnt deserve the drippings off my nose or my! (excuse the terminology)


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leiat8
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  5:05:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add leiat8 to your friends list Send leiat8 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
have just read it all and decided i shan't bother leaving a comment as i can see myself getting into trouble!!!! i cant believe how petty and childish some people are


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Roseanne
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  5:05:56 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roseanne to your friends list Send Roseanne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well said Linda! I agree; I've always loved all horses, I just admire Arabs in a huge way for so many reasons, not least their wonderful, elegant, well proportioned looks. After all, I used to 'ride' on a wall, with a doormat for a saddle and string with loops knotted in for my stirrups and a dog lead as my reins...

What I'd like to know is (I haven't seen H & H) is what people's justification is for 'hating Arabs'?

Roseanne
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Pashon2001
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  5:18:37 PM  Show Profile  Send Pashon2001 an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Pashon2001 to your friends list Send Pashon2001 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I totally agree Lynda!!


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JESSIEMAE
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  5:31:33 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JESSIEMAE to your friends list Send JESSIEMAE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What a dreadful subject for H & H to draft up ! I love all horses, it just so happens that Arabs are my favourite!

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Callisto
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  5:43:51 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Callisto to your friends list Send Callisto a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't think you can blame H & H for the topics that appear on their forum - anyone can post a new thread. Must admit I stopped going there a couple of years ago, got fed up with some of the ridiculous posts and also the very nasty nature of some of the replies. Given the amount of general prejudice against Arabs in the horse world it's hardly surprising that they are an easy target. I also agree that the topic title itself is fairly poisonous - just because I love Arabs doesn't mean I feel the need to bash other breeds, I am a horse lover, and they all have their place.

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Delyth
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  6:11:40 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Delyth to your friends list Send Delyth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There are some weird people about !!
The only people who 'bash' the Arabain are the people not intelligent enough to understand them - simple !!

Edited by - Delyth on 23 Aug 2010 8:07:57 PM
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george
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  6:44:22 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add george to your friends list Send george a Private Message  Reply with Quote
totally agree with Delyth!

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Dark Angel
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  7:29:37 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dark Angel to your friends list Send Dark Angel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What a vile topic for a public forum. If a person can feel as strong an emotion as 'hate' for any breed of horse then in my view they shouldn't be near any horse at all! It's probably a troll just trying to stir up trouble and they don't justify any type of response.


Caroline

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george
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  7:57:35 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add george to your friends list Send george a Private Message  Reply with Quote
just wrote out a perfect post for H&H after reg'n, only to bl**dy lose it all when I went to post it completely off the boil now and I was so proud of that one, lol, oh well, I will leave it to some one else now to put them in there place, some of the things they have said are so ridiculous, how can anybody call the Arabian "UGLY" and "poncy" and someone put that they have never known an Arab to prove themselves in SJ or Dressage ignorant imbeciles in MO

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stuart
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  8:03:13 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stuart to your friends list Send stuart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by LYNDILOU

Horse and hound Forum , (horses you hate?) anyone who hates any horse whatever the breed doesnt deserve the drippings off my nose or my! (excuse the terminology)


Lynda! .......see a Proctologist poste haste!..
.....but seriously - having 'crossed over' to this breed a few years ago, informed and well thought out posts in reply to critics would go a long way, and, acknowledge that it may be some time before a 'Pure' Arabian wins at the highest level of Olympic disciplines[; That realised - it is time to promote what we do with them and let it be seen in a positive/proactive light!

North Norfolk
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MinHe
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  8:49:42 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MinHe to your friends list Send MinHe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Have just read the entire H&H thread and can't believe how some people are over-reacting. Yes, *some* posters on that thread did not like Arabs, but there were just as many that did not like Appaloosas, coloured cobs, TBs and native ponies! And for every person who did not like Arabs, there was at least one other in favour!

Going in all guns blazing into a fairly laid-back thread as this one is/was is not going to convert anyone to liking Arabs - more the opposite!

And interesting too the posters there that started by saying "I don't like Arabs", who then qualified that by saying "but I do like the old-fashioned solid sort"!!!!!

Really, this thread is nothing to get wound up about - no actual "hate" in there at all.

Keren
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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  8:53:52 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Seen one recently Stuart, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with my
I think what Delyth said was Factual, and I think they wouldn't know a good horse if it bit them on the


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Nut
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  8:58:25 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Nut's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add Nut to your friends list Send Nut a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ive just taken a read through all the posts under that topic and yes there are a few people that have said arabs arent their cup of tea however there are far more that have said they are and far more that have stated other breeds arent their cup of tea. There is one rude poster that has listed not just arabs but 9 or 10 breeds and given rather rude comments on why each one is horrid but its one persons opinion. Its a strange topic to cover and most people posting have said 'i dont hate any breed, i just have a preference of x', well don't we all.

I dont think it needs us to defend the breed; if we want to show the wider horse community what they are really like get them out at grass roots level and prove them wrong.

Just my opinion :)

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Anne C
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  8:59:28 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Anne C to your friends list Send Anne C a Private Message  Reply with Quote

I've read it all as well, didn't think it was too bad either. There was actually quite a bit of support for Arabs. The general opinion seemed to be that it was the 'ponsy' new type of Arab that wasn't popular. It didn't seem to be Arab bashing in particular, was just people's opinions as to why they didn't like this or that breed.



Anne
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Nichole Waller
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  9:56:54 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nichole Waller to your friends list Send Nichole Waller a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ummm i've just read all 10 pages. Very glad to see the few posts of those standing up for the Arabs.. I've just added my twopence worth...

I think coloured cobs got a bit of a bashing as well..

I don't hate any breed, but there are certain types that i might not consider buying.


Edited by - Nichole Waller on 23 Aug 2010 10:36:28 PM
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Nichole Waller
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  10:17:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nichole Waller to your friends list Send Nichole Waller a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well just found another topic on the H & H forum called "What's your favourite breed..." Arabs are winning hands down at the moment...

And yes i've added my twopence worth again...


Edited by - Nichole Waller on 23 Aug 2010 10:47:40 PM
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maracz
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  10:48:23 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add maracz to your friends list Send maracz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is classic as im sure that the hottest topic on the lines was to do with us slating each others horses at our own national show????
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MinHe
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  11:10:12 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MinHe to your friends list Send MinHe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by maracz

This is classic as im sure that the hottest topic on the lines was to do with us slating each others horses at our own national show????


I went and looked right after the article was published and could not find anything on the forum, so it evidently was not an issue with non-Arab people!

Keren
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Vicki M
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  11:55:36 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vicki M to your friends list Send Vicki M a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have replied but in a general way. I think the use of the word "Hate" is the problem and nothing else. On reading through the topics I too was of the impression that it is simply a preference topic just set out with the wrong word.

I did reply with a general nice comment about all breeds but of course I love my Arabs and this was mentioned


Vicki M
Al Karif Arabians
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pinkvboots
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Posted - 24 Aug 2010 :  12:54:24 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pinkvboots to your friends list Send pinkvboots a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Your right Vicky M Hate is a very strong word to use, I think its very shallow to use "hate" especially when you dont really know what your talking about.

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joanna_piana
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Posted - 24 Aug 2010 :  2:01:12 PM  Show Profile  Click to see joanna_piana's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add joanna_piana to your friends list Send joanna_piana a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I find the H&H forum hilarious at times, I'm more of a lurker on there but you can tell the majority of posters are kids. Anyway I also put my twopennysworth in. I do find it odd that people can call themself a horselover but "hate" certain breeds. I might not want to own anything but an arab but I don't think i've ever met a horse I didn't like.


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lottieherts
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Posted - 24 Aug 2010 :  2:57:51 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lottieherts to your friends list Send lottieherts a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Snuck a look on the forum - Ha ha ha - there's a first - Arabs - ugly????!!!

Each to their own.




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