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debsnboz
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Posted - 22 Aug 2010 :  11:39:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add debsnboz to your friends list Send debsnboz a Private Message  Reply with Quote


As you can see Borris has nasty scabs on his white heel. There has been something threatening on there for a few weeks. I went away for 2 nights last week, and before I went put some bio skin oil on his heel as it had been looking a bit dodgy. i have used in on there before and am not sure it did anything positive but i didn't want o just leave it. He has it on the skin on his tail and it has worked there to stop him scratching. But the scabs apear to be where the oil was - conincidence???

I have been washing it with hibiscrub and using fungatrol for a couple of days. Originally the scabs were really thick so I soaked them off with hibiscrub. The skin around the scabs is also warm and red when washed.It does not looking like it is getting better by leaps and bounds.

He lives out 24/7 and last winter had no traces of any mud fever despite very muddy conditions!

Any ideas
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Casmin
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  12:14:16 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Casmin to your friends list Send Casmin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My mare has the same problem on her white heels and she didnt have any mud fever last winter either, I think it as combination of Sun and Dew / Damp weather ,I am hibiscrubbing and using Sudocreme and it seems to be helping xx

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debsnboz
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  12:17:05 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debsnboz to your friends list Send debsnboz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Are you soaking the scabs off each time?? Was going to use sudocreme - the cheaper option- but was told fungatrol loads better. By the shop that was - mug alert??????? I am worrie dI am making it worse somehow??
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Casmin
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  12:27:51 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Casmin to your friends list Send Casmin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't think you are making it worse. Tonight I have put vaseline on to soften them and will wash it of with hibicrub then dry and put on sudocreme in the morning, she hates having it done bless her as it must be so sore ,Oh and I might try zinc and caster oil as a barrier see if thats helps xx


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clio
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  02:02:14 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add clio to your friends list Send clio a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OOOh that looks sore :(
Try a bit of liquid parafin ... it will soften up the scabs and is great for healing, we use it alot and used a product called pig oil (google it) for this kind of thing in the cobs (not sure if you can still get it) but it contained liquid parafin and worked a treat.


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Sue J
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  09:47:27 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sue J to your friends list Send Sue J a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was given a sample of Keratex leg and hoof wash as a free sample (Kindly donated by Karatex who sponsored EGB's Cirencester ride)
I have found this to be much less irritant that Hibiscrub for this purpose. My mare suffers from this problem and this year I have washed the scabs off with the Keratex then once her legs were dry, used Sudocrem and found this has worked better than anything I have tried before.

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Spangle
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  09:53:23 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Spangle to your friends list Send Spangle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What are you feeding? Anything with Alfa in it? I have found that can cause skin scabbing?

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Suelin
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  10:53:21 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Suelin to your friends list Send Suelin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ollie suffers with this. We have tried all sorts of lotions and potions and spent fortunes with the vet. The only thing that works is Camrosa and it is brilliant. This summer I have used it as a preventative and it is working well with no scabbing this year so far. Saves a lot of pain for the horse and a lot of grief and expense for me as well.
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Gix
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  10:59:34 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gix to your friends list Send Gix a Private Message  Reply with Quote
we used to use zinc and castor oil cream with a few drops of friars balsalm mixed in on my mums mare, acts as barrier and friars balsalm is antiseptic. Also cow salve (like vaseline but with iodine in it) worked well when I worked on the stud.
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Kharidian
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  11:25:36 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kharidian to your friends list Send Kharidian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I can't see the picture, however in my experience I would not wash at all. I use liberal amounts of Sudocreme daily and after a couple of days you can usually work off the loose scabs with your fingers (only if they're loose). I would also spray with purple spray in case there is an underlying fungal infection.

This has always worked for me and I agree that it tends to be sun/wet grass etc that causes these scabby heels rather than mud.

Caryn

Kharidian (Prince Sadik x Khiri)........ Alkara Cassino (H Tobago x Rose Aboud)
aka "Roger".................................... aka "Chips"

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Freya and Ceece
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  11:27:19 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Freya and Ceece to your friends list Send Freya and Ceece a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would try something milder than hibiscrub, I've found that if anything it can make it more sore and scabby. Camrosa has also worked well for me, but it does look worse when you first put it on (don't forget a clean rag to wipe it off your hands!).
I stopped taking the scabs off myself and let the ointment soften them off and found it healed much more quickly. Haven't had any problems the past two months. As soon as her legs were healed up and the hair was back to normal, I just kept moisturising it with baby moisturiser.

No hour of life is wasted that is spent in the saddle. ~Winston Churchill

(Even if it ends with a minute in the mud)
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debsnboz
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  4:56:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debsnboz to your friends list Send debsnboz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cheers guys. Just ordered tub Camerosa. Don't tell the OH about the £26 it cost tho............
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Suelin
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  5:19:07 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Suelin to your friends list Send Suelin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Debsnboz, you will need far more than that to clear it if it has hold. It took me most of last winter to get rid but having done it, it is great as a preventative. You will need to be in for the long haul probably. PM me if you want any further help with this. Follow the instructions to the letter and don't give up.
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navaho621
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Posted - 24 Aug 2010 :  12:16:06 AM  Show Profile  Click to see navaho621's MSN Messenger address  Send navaho621 a Yahoo! Message Bookmark this reply Add navaho621 to your friends list Send navaho621 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ditto what Kharidian said, sudocreme, cheap & cheerful! My boy always gets this through the summer, though has never suffered with mud fever, so definitely the sun/wet grass that causes it....also seemed worse when he was out on ground with lots of buttercups! Just applied liberally & its always cleared up quickly.
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