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alethea
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Posted - 14 Aug 2010 :  12:41:25 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add alethea to your friends list Send alethea a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would just like to set the record straight.
The gelding in question is not a rig.
He was gelded at my yard. I personally saw the whole procedure. He had two testicles that were fully dropped. No retained testicle. And the op was performed successfully.
I have spoken to my vet who performed this op and they said there is no way he is a rig.
Hope this clears things up for you all.
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Kazzy
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Posted - 14 Aug 2010 :  12:59:26 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kazzy to your friends list Send Kazzy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kastell, speaking from my own experiences and no one elses, I was told by the vet at the hospital were I took him to be gelded that normally by the time they are a yearling it should have dropped but obviously some cases would differ.

I personelly wouldnt buy a colt that had a full brother that had the *rig castration* just incase but everyone is differnet.

Mine was done 14 years ago and it cost me nearly £400 then to have him gelded and apparently it was quite straight forward and they found his missing testicle quite quickly so they didnt have to do abdomemn surgery.

The price might have got cheaper these days with more knowledge also it may have got dearer with inflation I dont know, its something I havent had to deal with since.

Janet



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marionpack
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Posted - 15 Aug 2010 :  11:07:22 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add marionpack to your friends list Send marionpack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know of 2 horses that aren't rigs (both have been blood tested) but they still mount mares as if they were entire, also in dogs if a testicle has not dropped it is hereditary and if the hidden testacle is not removed it can turn cancerous in time

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Vera
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Posted - 15 Aug 2010 :  11:35:13 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Vera to your friends list Send Vera a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sounds to me like he's 'riggy' rather than a true rig.

I knew a Section C gelding who was gelded properly at 3 who would not only get erect but actually mount and enter mares. I know that he was gelded properly because I assisted the vet. He remained riggy for his whole life.


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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 15 Aug 2010 :  12:22:37 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Strangely men who have chosen to be castrated ( pedophiles), have still sometimes gone on to re offend because they dont always loose their desires !
As for horses although there is a leaning towards the thoughts that it is an hereditary trait, my vet says it can and WILL occur in any mammal at anytime without any hereditary history, humans too! using a mating with no history wont guarantee it wont occur.


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Kharidian
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Posted - 15 Aug 2010 :  9:57:47 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kharidian to your friends list Send Kharidian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I may be wrong (and am happy to be corrected!) but I understood that even if both testicles are removed, if a little of the spermatic cord is retained then this can also produce hormones (testosterone, I presume) that can account for "riggy" behaviour. Therefore, even a correctly gelded colt can display stallion-like behaviour?

Caryn

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aka "Roger".................................... aka "Chips"

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