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angel2002
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Posted - 13 Aug 2010 :  09:28:43 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angel2002 to your friends list Send angel2002 a Private Message  Reply with Quote


Kharif.... You asked for advice, we have all told you the same thing and you do not seem to be listening??

I shall make this as clear as I can for your yearlings sake and yours...

PLEASE GET A SECOND OPINION FROM A DIFFERENT VET PRACTICE TODAY!!!!!!

Angel
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Kharif
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Posted - 13 Aug 2010 :  12:07:31 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kharif to your friends list Send Kharif a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am listening very clearly and I do understand how serious this is. I dont need patronised. The problem is that so many people have a different opinion on the subject and how it should be treated that unless you have experience of it you can only try and follow what you are told. My vet has 30 years horse experiance and I have used the practice for 16 years so I'm confident that they know what they are dealing with.

I have however had a second vet out (yesterday thanks)who has agreed that they are happy with him being turned about after checking him over and going over his case. I am also waiting on a call from a third vet to go over it again.

I have a new farrier booked for Monday morning to get him checked over and shaped.

The question I was asking was that could it be anything other than lami, given the symptoms and timeline. I'm not saying it wasnt lami but I want to check down every avenue.
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NatH
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Posted - 13 Aug 2010 :  12:42:11 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NatH to your friends list Send NatH a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well to answer your question I would think not.

The condition laminitis can be caused by lots of reasons.

Looking at the shape of your boys hoof it looks to me that 'rotation' has occurred at some point.

The reason I sounded so 'desparate' was that seeing the coronet breaking out like that was just what happended to my boy. He has his hoof completed removed on the one side, the Vet & Farrier were hoping to find an abcess. They didn't.

When he has follow up X-rays it showed that the abcess was coming from the pedal bone. An infection had got in some how and the infection attacked the pedal bone rendering it almost transparent on X-ray. Sadly there was nothing more that could be done.

Just seeing that little foot took me all the way back to the worst time of my life. Sorry to sound so dramatic.

All the best with your Farrier and I hope the 3rd Vet that you have contacted understands the horrors of laminitis, certainly in one so young.

Natalie
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vjc
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Posted - 13 Aug 2010 :  12:57:37 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vjc to your friends list Send vjc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nat i remember how you battled with your much loved boy, so sad

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peg
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Posted - 14 Aug 2010 :  10:31:44 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add peg to your friends list Send peg a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm afraid when I read this post originally I didn't reply because I thought it was a (sick) windup. Really sorry to hear what your poor horse is going through and I guess you should be applauded for getting a vet out. Like everyone else though I was stunned by the 'advice' you have been given. One example from your original post which worried me was that of the digital pulse being 'stronger' (original quote "He seems to be fine, his digital pulse is now stronger but I have noticed that his hoof's have split up near the coronary band. I called the vet but they werent too concerned as he wasnt lame")- in healthy horses the digital pulse should be almost unnoticable.

I don't think anyone was trying to patronise you at all - you stated that you posted this because you wanted advice from others - and that is what they gave you, even when in some cases it meant for respondents having to think back to and relive their own horrendous experiences. I'd say that is really generous.

If you prefer not to take anyone's word for it, something that you might find useful is this site: http://www.laminitisclinic.org. They list a helpline number and you could have a frank conversation with them about your horse and get advice from experts in the field. It costs £1/ minute which I think is extremely good value. I wish your horse a speedy recovery.

Edited by - peg on 14 Aug 2010 12:10:16 PM
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kirst
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Posted - 19 Aug 2010 :  10:16:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirst to your friends list Send kirst a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just wondering how your youngster is now?

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Kharif
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Posted - 23 Aug 2010 :  10:56:29 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kharif to your friends list Send Kharif a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for asking Kirst, he is fine now. Just keeping an eye on the crack. He didnt have lami, it was an abscess.



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kirst
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Posted - 24 Aug 2010 :  09:50:03 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirst to your friends list Send kirst a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's good (that it wasn't Lami). I have a brilliant farrier and if I suspect anything wrong with my horses feet I get him out before I call the vet - he is great when it comes to absesses etc and he is much cheaper!!


Edited by - kirst on 24 Aug 2010 12:50:01 PM
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pinkvboots
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Posted - 24 Aug 2010 :  12:40:23 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pinkvboots to your friends list Send pinkvboots a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kharif I am really glad your youngster didn't have Laminitis, I am sorry if you thought people were being hard, they just understand the seriousness of this awful condition and from my own experience once you have had to deal with Laminitis you never want to go through it again.
I think the vet that came out was wrong to say it was Laminitis and just leave you to it, and then to later find out the diagnosis was wrong, if that were me I would never be able to forgive them putting me through that.

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angel2002
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Posted - 24 Aug 2010 :  12:44:13 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angel2002 to your friends list Send angel2002 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Glad to hear that it wasn't Laminitis Kharif

Can I ask if you did get a new farrier?

Angel
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kirst
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Posted - 24 Aug 2010 :  12:47:20 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirst to your friends list Send kirst a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, I agree with what you have said Pinkyboots. I lost my beloved mare to Lami and never want to go through it again.

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