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sabinelenny
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 Posted - 25 Jul 2010 : 8:48:07 PM
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Hi!
We have just had our first foal born and the vet told me to worm her from 4 weeks onwards every 4 weeks until 6 months. Our field is poo picked every day and was rested before mum and foal went onto it. We are doing worm egg count at the yard and our horses worm counts are always 0-low.
It just seems a bit excessive.
What do you all do? Grateful for any recommendations.
Thanks Sabine
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cookie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 Jul 2010 : 10:34:48 PM
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I always worm as your vet has indicated,actually start at 2weeks !Always use panacur as this is the safest for the tiny foals.you can progress to eraquel or similar when foal is about 4 months.Always check on the packet that it is suitable for foals,and always try to esimate the weight as acuratly as you can,good luck,
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sab2
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Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 10:05:14 AM
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| Mine are wormed at 7 days then every 21 days as you said above panacur first then strongid p, it was the lady at the foaling bank that gave me advice on worming. |
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BabsR
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England
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Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 10:35:12 AM
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Well.....perhaps I am of the old school and think that too much worming is detrimental We are in danger of creating "super worms" by too regular worming, and several articles have appeared in H & H
stating this fact.
What your vet has advised for your foal seems to be rather excessive IMHO
I worm mare approx 4-6 weeks before foaling and then foal, at 6-8 weekly intervals thereafter
At maturity, we worm Spring,Summer,Autumn and Winter. The most reliable indication for a worming programme is doing a worm count of the dung and administering the appropriate wormer, based on the results of that analysis
Babs
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weirton
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Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 11:50:57 AM
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Being 'old school' too I totally agree with Babs.
This is the method we have always used and it has never let us down. If in any doubt have a worm count done on the foal and be guided by it. You can cause more problems than you started with. If it ain't broke don't fix it!
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BabsR
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England
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Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 12:28:54 PM
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I do believe, dare I say it, that Chemical Companies and "some" Veterinary Practices seem to care more about making money and give less consideration to what is really in the best interest of the horse
these days.....money, money, appearing to be the overriding incentive
All drugs, whilst having their benefits used in moderation.....can, with over use, certainly lead to other serious complications. I would certainly be questioning worming a week old foal, then every 21 days 
Too many drugs being administered these days....not all are beneficial to the Horses` wellbeing 
Babs
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Zarena
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Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 1:50:21 PM
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| Another vote for Babs' opinion here. Over worming is like overdoing anything else and will build resistance. |
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pinkvboots
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 1:53:39 PM
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| I agree with Bab's too I only worm 4 times a year at the end of each season and the worm count always comes back 0. |
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Jingo
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 4:24:32 PM
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Our broodmares are wormed just before they foal - yes we also poo pick the paddocks. Our foals are usually wormed at mares foal heat with panacur - it seems to settle their tums if they scour at this time and then we also worm with panacur every 4 weeks until they are six months old. After that they can be put onto the normal worming regime along with the others.
Foals are very susceptible to picking up worms and I would rather worm than have any chance of worm damage from redworm etc at this early age. Sorry jmho - not vets (altho he agrees). |
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 8:06:34 PM
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Wary of overdosing and resitance too, but this is working for us: worm before foaling when the mares leave winter quarters and go onto rested fields. Then baby gets Panacur at 4-6 wks (depends on mares seasons) and the best of the grass and rested fields. Then every 6 wks until weaning when they are done a week or so after taking off mum in case they are at all stressed. Our weanlings winter in and always get a good redworm treatment before being roughed off in Spring - it really is never worth scrimping on worming a youngster.
As the yard is on counts and worming accordingly do a count on foalie a month after that first worming to keep an eye on things. |
    
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Edited by - Mrs Vlacq on 27 Jul 2010 2:38:14 PM |
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zapphire1
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England
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Posted - 26 Jul 2010 : 8:36:31 PM
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we worm our mares within in (no less)then 2 weeks before foaling
once foals are born they are wormed at 4/6 weeks old the only two products that have been tested on foals are Equimax (for foals from 2 weeks old)which is good if you buy a mare already due to foal with unknow history
PANACUR IS ONLY SUITABLE from 6 weeks old, remenber every wormer you put
to your equines mouth
you are giving them a bit of A chemical ( POISON )
also if you are having worm count done on your horses and foals why would you risk over worming just because a vet says so,
if your broodmares have been wormed throughout theres no need to worm foals until four/six weeks,
some worming product tips
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EQUIMAX <from 2 weeks
ERAQUELL
TABLETS< as above
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PYRATAPE P< from 4 weeks
STRONGID P
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PANACUR EQUINE GUARD <from six weeks
PANACUR GRANULES
PANACUR PASTE
ERAQUELL PASTE
EQVALAN
NOROMECTIN
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EQVALAN DUO < from 2 months
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EQUEST<from 4 months
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Jamana
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England
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Posted - 27 Jul 2010 : 3:50:03 PM
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Our foals are wormed exactly as Jingo describes.  |
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whirlwindhorses
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England
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Posted - 27 Jul 2010 : 6:08:50 PM
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I worm mine at 4 weeks old with Panacur and then at 8 and 16 weeks with Ivermectin. Then i wean them at 6 months and worm them with Equest a few days before they go off to their new home. I would never worm a foal less than 6 weeks old with Ivermectin. I do usually worm my mares the day the foal is born, with Ivermectin, this is supposed to prevent scour on foal heat but it doesn't always. I have wormed foals safely with Panacur at 7 days in the past on vet recomendation.
Copied off the outside of a box containing a tube of Panacur paste: Safe for young foals and pregnant mares. For the control of diarrhoea caused by Strongyloides Westeri, in 2-3 week-old suckling foals, administer one syringe per 90kg bodyweight on a single occasion. |
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Berryscroft
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England
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Posted - 06 Aug 2010 : 09:26:08 AM
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I thought I would bring this topic up to the front again following the very sad loss of my friend's yearling TB filly to a rare tapeworm burden. 
The topic is entitled 'Poorly Yearling with mystery symptoms-UPDATE'.
http://www.arabianlines.com/forum1/topic_new.asp?TOPIC_ID=41732
This filly had been wormed regularly with the most 'popular' wormers - have a read and at least you may then be equipped with a bit more information and can make your own decisions regarding worming foals and youngstock.
Link added for better reference |
     
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Sue J
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Wales
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Posted - 16 Aug 2010 : 11:03:06 AM
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I recently wormed my foal with Panacur at 8wks old, but before doing so I had a worm count done with the result of less than 100 (low count) and his dam came back as a nil count. She was last wormed 6wks prior to his birth.
I will do another worm count before worming again but in any case will worm for tape worm in October. |
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Edited by - Sue J on 16 Aug 2010 11:03:44 AM |
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