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JESSIEMAE
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England
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Posted - 06 Aug 2010 :  8:53:45 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JESSIEMAE to your friends list Send JESSIEMAE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Terri, I am so sorry to hear this news. I too, have had a nightmare with a worm burden. I bought a rescue mare in October last year, many people here will know her as there were lots of postings on here about her.

Shulay Montana, my little lady, came to me in October, extremely thin and poor. I am so fortunate that my vet took one look at her and 'lets get the bloodwork done first as it will tell me the most'. The tests picked up a parasite burden that hadn't been cleared in spite of me worming her with 'a five day well known wormer' as soon as she arrived.

It's a few months ago now and I can't exactly remember what 'worm' it was but he prescribed a 'cattle wormer' and measured this out for me. I couldn't believe the difference this made to my mare in less than three weeks. Her coat went from 'dull and staring' to a lovely shine, she gained weight and almost immediately stopped her from standing, listlessly staring into space with no appetite what so ever in spite of resembling a toast rack.

She has now made a full recovery to a beautiful,fit,contented little mare.

I can't emphasize enough how dangerous it is too 'just read the info on the packet'

I trust my vet implicitly and he has treated out horses for the last 30 years... Gosh this shows my age and his..!

Thank you so much for posting this as I feel sure it will help other people.

Liza x


Edited by - JESSIEMAE on 07 Aug 2010 09:28:15 AM
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 07 Aug 2010 :  12:21:12 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So very sorry to hear of this sad loss.

Please remember folks that the Worm Counts will not show up the presence of Tape Worms, you need a Blood Test to check for Tapes. Your vet will arrange this. Also, remember to worm for Tapes,
and once you've got Tapes on the field, they are not going to go away.

I had a similar problem a few yaers ago with a young horse, the vet advised to worm for tapes that day and also took some blood to check for these. The next morning I found evidence of tapes in the droppings and by the time the second blood result came back, which took about 10 days, it was clear and the horse was better. My test went to Liverpool and they followed it up with all the relavent advice.
Sue

Sue

Edited by - Rozy Rider on 07 Aug 2010 12:36:41 AM
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zapphire1
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Posted - 14 Aug 2010 :  10:48:12 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add zapphire1 to your friends list Send zapphire1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ive not had a internet connect for a while,and iam so sorry to read your post about her,poor little girl god bless her,
rozy rider is 100% right regards to blood test are the only way to find
tape worm,on another note
i remember a few years ago my friend had a jumping pony with unknow history he worm him with everything the pony looked well ie weight coat etc won and won everything one morning he went to his stable and found him saddly dead,postm should worms in blood stream he couldnt believe it as he owned him for over a year it broke his heart,

about 10 yrs ago my daughter was working for a stud,and she fell in love with a sec D she brought him and the breeder offered her a sec c for £50 iswell , i wasnt best please when they arrived the sec d was fine and age 10 yrs is still fine ,but it turned out she offered the sec c for £50 pounds as her vet said that he was really sick ,i hit the roof when i saw him not only because the sec c was only 4.1/2mths old,that was bad enough but the sec c was skin and bone with the bigest pot belly you would ever have seen, well i wormed the life out of him and he didnt have droppings he had bean shoots thats what it looked like ,i was luckie that he was so young in the end as it save his life, and when the breeder saw him the cheeky cow ,demaned we`d have him gelded as he was better the his full brother,and she lied and said he wasnt registered i phoned the wpcs and they sent me his papers and gave her a warning for with holding pappers!!!

but anyway i know how hard it is to lose such young horse and like someone else said it will be a life saver to others ,and i like to give you a big thank you for such good information although its quite shocking ,

i do have one question why can`t you post the wormers ?????????????????????on this forum as we have all said what we use on the forum (worming horses)if not expect lots of PM and count me in on that too,

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Pashon2001
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Posted - 15 Aug 2010 :  02:28:10 AM  Show Profile  Send Pashon2001 an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Pashon2001 to your friends list Send Pashon2001 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is very scary. I lost a foal I sold to someone many years ago who had been wormed regularly but had a tapeworm, which killed him.............so sad. I worm all my horses regularly now but only afterworm counts. I took in a mare a couple of months ago which had an extremely high worm count, but having wormed her nothing came out. It just goes to show, wormers arent that good! She is being retested now. hopefully the vets wormer did the trick.
So sorry to hear of the loss of the yearling. Nothing I say will compensate.


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Jamana
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Posted - 15 Aug 2010 :  08:01:40 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jamana to your friends list Send Jamana a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jessiemae, was your mare suffering from liver fluke? It is not unusual on horses that graze on wet or marshy pasture esp if cattle or Donkeys have been on the land in the previous 10 years and will cause the symptoms you describe.

There is no drug licsenced for horses that treats Liver Fluke so that would poss be the 'cattle wormer' your vet prescribed? It is called Fasinex and is a liquid rather than a past. A blood test will show the presence of Fluke.

How sad to her about this poor filly, but it is so helpful that the owners have been brave enough to allow Berryscroft to share their story. We have a rep from a large wormer company visiting the stud this week so I will pick his brains about this type of tape worm.

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ella
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Posted - 16 Aug 2010 :  5:52:13 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ella to your friends list Send ella a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Reading through your post again - are you saying the 2 foals were given Moxidectin in July but still showed a huge roundworm burden when given Pyrantel 3 weeks later? Or was it tapeworm that were seen in the droppings?




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BabsR
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Posted - 16 Aug 2010 :  6:09:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BabsR to your friends list Send BabsR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Roundworm, are, by their very description just that, whereas tapeworm are very different, being flat and segmented in appearance..... both easily distinguishable from each other.

Babs
www.SunrayAngloArabianstud.co.uk

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BabsR
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Posted - 16 Aug 2010 :  6:10:50 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BabsR to your friends list Send BabsR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Roundworm, are, by their very description just that, whereas tapeworm are very different, being flat and segmented in appearance..... both easily distinguishable from each other.

Babs
www.SunrayAngloArabianstud.co.uk

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JulieBeattie1
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Posted - 16 Aug 2010 :  9:59:14 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JulieBeattie1 to your friends list Send JulieBeattie1 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What sad and awful news. My heart goes out to your friend who must be absolutely heartbroken.
I will certainly take note of what advice has come out of this discussion.

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