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taranstorm
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 Posted - 22 Jun 2010 : 10:06:51 AM
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Ditto what precious have said as he is happy loving foal who just need help to raise money to lead better quality life!  |
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carrots
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Jun 2010 : 10:34:04 AM
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I dont often post on AL, but I have seen this story all over the internet.
I have had to have a foal PTS and its heartbreaking, totaly, but do these foals ask to be born, no. We breed them, we decide on the stallion to put the mare to, and at that very point we are entering into an unwritten contract with the foal. Our side states that we will do everything within our power to give that foal a long healthy life full of love and kindness, never to see it sad, sorry or hurt in any way, to ensure that should we need to find it a new home, that home be caring, loving and understanding, we agree to tend to its every need, including all medical, never to raise our hands or voice to that foal....the foals side states nothing.....it didnt ask to be born.
I feel that personally I would have had to have this little chap PTS, to put him through the pain and uncertainty of what could be a number of serious operations, would be cruel, its very sad but mother nature can be a very cruel friend, born in the wild this chap would not live. Even if he survived the operations, he would possibly never lead a truely healthy life, unable to gallop with joy (breathing problems) and there is the posibilty that he would never be able to graze as nature intended..............he is not my foal and what ever the owners decide to do will, in their opinion be the right thing, and I wish them all the luck in the world if they decide to help him, if not them my prayers are with them. |
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littlearabians
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Posted - 22 Jun 2010 : 10:49:53 AM
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I do agree with you to a certain point... as yes every life does deserve a chance... however if the filly I showed pictures of needed 2 of these very expensive operations to be capable of eating, how many do you thing this poor boy will need??? ... we will not just be looking at collecting £4000 it would more likely be £4000 times 3 or 4.... and still after all that you cant gaurantee that he will be capable of eating solids... is it fair to let him go through all this pain and suffering?? can you honestly feel good about donating all that money... when perfectly healthy horses are starved or PTS/ slaugther, and you with gaurantee could save many healthy souls for the same money??
Also in my world a 6 year old girl does not have any thing to say in a question of quality of life... and keeping him alive because he is the friend of a 6 year old girl is again in my view very selfish... and just trying to avoid hurting the girl... well sorry, but even a young girl will have to learn that sometimes you just cant save every soul you meet.
I do belive that all the trouble of getting him to suckle was natures way of trying to put him to sleep, however humans are very skilled at keeping things alive even though it might have been better off dead. |
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Pauline
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England
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Posted - 22 Jun 2010 : 10:52:07 AM
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Vera
As you have bought up the subject of this poor little fellow What has happened to the little pony you have as a livery. The one with the deformed face.
I send my good luck to the owners of the little foal and what ever they decide to do for the best I'm with them.
After three years of desperately wanting a foal from my mare I can see why they want to save the little chap.
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Esther
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Jun 2010 : 11:37:58 AM
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If you've got time, it's worth reading the full thread on the NFED.
My understanding as to what has happened from reading that thread is thus:
- Deformed foal is born, but seems to be a plucky little critter so owner decides to investigate whether anything can be done with him.
- Owner posts on website to ask if anyone has had a similar experience that she can learn from. In that first post she says she's fully aware his could be a hopeless case, but she wants to investigate her options first before calling it a day. She also says she's had the RSPCA check him over and they have no immediate welfare concerns.
- Someone on the website suggests she goes to the press to see if anyone can offer any help or advice as there may be a vet out there with experience of these things, and/or he may be an interesting case study for a vet hospital.
- Someone from the local paper contacts her through the website and offers to run the story.
- The national media pick up on it and it then takes on a life of its own, with a load of mis-quotes and with the emphasis on fundraising rather than a search for advice.
- The moderator closes the thread, confirming that there are no plans for an operation, no-one even knows if there is an operation that would work, and the owner has never requested money from the general public.
Having witnessed a similar run in with the media with someone I know, where a story took on a life of its own and she ended up too scared to leave the house, I have some sympathy with the woman. All she wanted to do was investigate her options before making a final decision.
I know when I worked on a large stud farm, the odd deformed one we had we would run on till weaning if they were viable and then make a decision then, as it meant that the mares got to use their milk, were less traumatised by the foal going as they'd be about ready to say goodbye anyway at weaning time, and the foals got a chance at life - sometimes they do surprise you and legs straighten up or heads don't look so bad. This is no different from what I can see. |
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Callisto
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Posted - 22 Jun 2010 : 11:54:50 AM
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| Poor woman, what a nightmare, thank you for setting us straight Esther. I wish her all the best with the poor foal, and that the media give her a break. |
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kimzi
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Posted - 22 Jun 2010 : 12:11:25 PM
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I spoke with diego's owner jane last night as i understood that her initial wish was to glean as much information about the condition as possible just as i did when daisy was born, there is so much that hasnt been said publicly and wont be said publicly, she is trueley not to blame for anything that has happened. When daisy was born some loveley people on here posted links about other foals in other parts of the world who were affected maybe they can post these links again?
She did not choose to breed a foal. Enough said. |
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Rosinante
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Hungary
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Posted - 23 Jun 2010 : 11:10:43 PM
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Hi everybody, a friend sent me the article about Diego. I'm a Hungarian woman (so sorry for my English, it's far from being perfect ), I have a horse asylum for ill and aged horses, and among them I have a 6 years old gelding with severe Wry Nose Syndrome. I adopted him from a stud when he was 5 months old. He wasn't operated, and of course he can't be ridden as he would have difficulties with breathing, but he has an absolutely happy life with his friends; ha can play, graze, etc.
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Goldenmane
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Jun 2010 : 12:00:47 PM
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| Rosinante, welcome to Arabianlines. Your gelding is lovely(in fact, I would love him more because of his looks if he was mine). Your English is excellent! |
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taranstorm
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alison
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Wales
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Posted - 24 Jun 2010 : 1:09:21 PM
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Rosinante, what a super looking boy he is and such a wonderful colour. He does look happy and content, well done you for adopting him and welcome to AL.
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Eeyore
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Posted - 24 Jun 2010 : 1:15:15 PM
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Your boy looks very happy Rosinate
He is a lovely colour and has such a beautiful kind eye 
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alethea
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Jun 2010 : 1:18:48 PM
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Rosinante  to arabian lines and thanks for sharing pictures of your lovely boy.
Alethea
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Rosinante
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Tzarina
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England
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Posted - 24 Jun 2010 : 6:31:44 PM
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Rosinante welcome to ArabianLines . What a fabulous name
Well done you for adopting the chestnut gelding (name not mentioned). I'm sure he is extra special and he looks so happy and contented. The picture with the sheet and the other pony shows how contented he is despite his condition. |
    
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precious
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England
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Posted - 25 Jun 2010 : 11:03:43 AM
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welcome to AL Rosinante :)
Pimpa is lovely and so nice to hear a horse with a wry nose living a happy horse life :) well done for taking on this lad.
Hope you can get in touch with Diegos owner and can help her with her hard decision ahead x |
     
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Fundraising for operation on disfigured foal?...
