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ikle pickle
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 :  2:51:18 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ikle pickle to your friends list Send ikle pickle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello every one I was hoping for a little advise if possible about an 8 year old anglo arab mare me and my hubby have just bought This girl has not had a very good start in life and has not been treated very well at all! She has been around the circuit quite a few times, has bred foals and has literally done nothing under saddle:(

She comes to us on Tuesday and with the time we have had with her all be it little she has started to do really well with allot of the issues she has:) When we first met her and she was having her bridle on by the people who i am very good friends with whom rescued her from the sales, she was literally on her back feet so to avoid having her bridle on:(
When i got on her she stood beautifully but then when i asked her to move forward she simply would not move! At this point as i have been out of the saddle for quite some time and after her outburst with the bridle i was very reluctant to push her out of fear of what she was capable of:(
I got off and said that as beautiful as she was i simply would not be able to do this girl justice:( Some one else had come to see her and they got on and did manage to get her to move for a short time:( She then just stopped and would not move. As i watched on i saw a horse that was ready for giving up on life and literally laying on the floor and saying do what you want i don't care!
I then decided to have another go and took her out:) She napped and refused to go forward so i tapped her with the whip and she went with out discussion:) Whilst out she simply did not respond to my leg at all, but if i opened my rein to the left or right she went in that direction:) I was a little puzzled and realised she new very little:(

Any way i have had the dentist, back man, the vet and spent some time with her and she is now excepting her bridle and is doing better in the school:) At the moment she is in a loose ring French link and goes with an extremely high head carriage and was hoping you guys may be able to offer a little bit of advise?

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rosie
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 :  3:00:17 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rosie to your friends list Send rosie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If shes done very little, I would be tempted to go back to the very basics & work with her on the lunge, & then progress to long-reining.
Good luck.




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justine
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 :  3:37:34 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add justine to your friends list Send justine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would re-break her.
Turn her away for a month to chill and forget, though she wont! If you cant do this, just take her right back. Get to know her. Take her for walks in hand, lunging, long reining.... You can sit on her back and cuddle her.... All stress free!
I always use Neu Schule double jointed snaffles from breaking to forever! They seem to accept and come onto the bit easily.
I have a mare now that sounds similar to yours, she knew no leg aids and obviously had a rough time. She is now great, a sweet loving easy mare (tonto on sales page) though not an arab she thinks she is one as she lives with them, she is nanny to my youngsters. Though I am worried about selling her to the right home, I feel I dont give her enough of my time, she deserves the best home in the world!
Good luck with your new friend.

jbassindale
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 :  4:37:36 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mrs Vlacq to your friends list Send Mrs Vlacq a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Agree -start again. The FL is fine, but if you want an easier bit to accept then the lozenges as Justine suggests are superb - never known a horse not like them!
Lunge and longrein her, off her headcollar if needs be, then off her bit once she has soften and relaxed with you. Set up reliable and consistent voice aids and spend as much time as you and she needs to click. Obstacles, walking out, trips to the beech or woodlands. Get everything else right and the head carriage will sort itself out.

Anglos are very very intelligent and with the wrong people/handling they will shut down, often out of self preservation. There's probably a very lovely personality in there for you to bring out. Good luck!


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kathleen
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 :  5:18:25 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kathleen to your friends list Send kathleen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just give her time off to get to know you both no hassle and then I would slowly start again at the start of the basics walking out, long reining and slowly on to lunging just take your time

good luck

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BabsR
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 :  7:20:42 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BabsR to your friends list Send BabsR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Echo all that has been said......time, patience TLC lots of praise...
Anglos are very bright and so do not need lessons "drummed in"...little and often, with lots of freedom play. Long reining is preferable to lunging, otherwise Anglos can quickly get bored going round and round in endless circles!!

Is your mare a registered Anglo?....would love to know her breeding and see pics of her.

I`m sure she will reward you in return and good luck for the future

Babs
www.SunrayAngloArabianStud.co.uk

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ikle pickle
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 :  7:47:28 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikle pickle to your friends list Send ikle pickle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you so much for your advise:) I have no ideas what her blood lines are sadly:( But i do have a photo for you all:)


Would you get the bit with the prongs ie fulmer or loose ring etc? Thank you so much again xx
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debs
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 :  9:42:54 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add debs to your friends list Send debs a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No advise ....just good wishes!

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ikle pickle
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Posted - 06 Jun 2010 :  10:14:26 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikle pickle to your friends list Send ikle pickle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you debs:) Is there a way i could find out her blood lines ? xx
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BabsR
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Posted - 07 Jun 2010 :  08:49:36 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BabsR to your friends list Send BabsR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You are stating she is an Anglo Arab Do you not have any registration papers? which is the only proof she is as you say.

Unless you have details of her Sire and/or Dam it will be impossible to find her bloodline.

You obviously have given her excellent care as she is in good condition now and I am sure will repay you for all your TLC. Good luck for the future in all you achieve together

Agree, the gentle bit may help.. Happy Mouth Fulmer Cheek with mulen mouthpice...the cheek pieces will aid with steering by placing a gentle feel on her lower cheek


Edited by - BabsR on 07 Jun 2010 09:01:07 AM
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Montikka
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Posted - 07 Jun 2010 :  09:48:15 AM  Show Profile  Send Montikka an AOL message Bookmark this reply Add Montikka to your friends list Send Montikka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great advice above, she looks very nice

I'm sure you'll get there as you have two very important things on your side; you CARE and you are not afraid to ask for advice. Best of luck with her


Louise, Warwickshire
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Nichole Waller
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Posted - 07 Jun 2010 :  2:11:54 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nichole Waller to your friends list Send Nichole Waller a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Agree, very good advice above. She does look a lovely mare and i wish you both a long and happy future.

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