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rasaljadi
Bronze Member
England
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 Posted - 20 May 2010 : 9:30:04 PM
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Can anyone tell me if there is a weed killer thats kills all weeds, its a horse pasture field so don't want to kill the grass.
I have the product called pastor though it does not kill some weeds.
or am i better getting someone in to spray it for me.
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MinHe
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 20 May 2010 : 10:12:10 PM
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Better getting someone in - there are all sorts of hoops to jump through nowadays regarding spraying and a qualified specialist will know what is the best treatment for your particular weed problem 
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Suelin
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 21 May 2010 : 07:28:34 AM
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| We use Grazon 90. Kills the weeds and leaves the grass. I used to have someone spray it on but now I have it to the stage that I can spot spray it paddock by paddock. Excellent product. |
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moatside
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England
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delly-b
Gold Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 May 2010 : 4:15:04 PM
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I tried Pastor last year, but not sure it really did much looking at this years buttercups 
Barrier H I use for the dreaded Ragwort... either that or pulling up and I am trying salt in the hole too in the paddock they are grazing in.
I have just had the field tested for the PH, so I can add lime.... this should help stop the spread of buttercups next year, but need to spray and top them off soon. Think ill try grazon this year... seems recommended by a lot of people. |
       
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Suelin
Platinum Member
England
2514 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2010 : 7:52:35 PM
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| Note to everyone, if you want to buy herbicides now you have to give your Holding Number and name and address to the merchant before they will let you buy. More legislation!! |
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Judith S
Platinum Member
Wales
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Posted - 21 May 2010 : 7:57:09 PM
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| You've had to give your holding number for a few years but many places have ignored this. You are now supposed to have an operators licence for spraying, or be known personally by the supplier to be actively farming??? |
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Vera
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United Kingdom
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rasaljadi
Bronze Member
England
78 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2010 : 8:56:55 PM
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| Thanks veryone, can you buy from the internet? |
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Suelin
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 22 May 2010 : 02:48:05 AM
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That's interesting Judith, my merchant has only started to ask this year. The law is such an ass.
I expect that one can buy online but the same rules would apply I guess. Personally I always go in to the merchants to buy stuff like this. |
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Svanemosen
Bronze Member
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Posted - 22 May 2010 : 07:31:25 AM
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We also use a product that kills all weed but leave the grass.
The only thing is it kills the clover too !
This year I have done it myself and left a few thistles since some of the horses loves to eat the flowers on them. I have been told thistles holds much oil and nutrition. Only they need to be careful when collecting
If we cut some and let them dry a few days - all the horses choose them over the grass.
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buffy
Gold Member
Scotland
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Posted - 22 May 2010 : 10:01:26 AM
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Grazon 90 sounds as if it would be the best for dockens and buttercups. How much would I need to buy for an acre? My small paddock is infested with them and we still don't have much grass!!
How long do you need to keep them off the ground after spraying?
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Pop
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 22 May 2010 : 10:38:59 AM
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Grazon is brilliant, i've found it the best. But if you want it to make a good job of the buttercups you need to cut them and then spray a few days later.
It says keep them off for 7 days I think, but I always leave it for 14 days, just to be safe. |
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Judith S
Platinum Member
Wales
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Posted - 22 May 2010 : 11:33:53 AM
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Best not to cut before spraying - the Grazon is absorbed through the leaf into the roots.
1 litre will be more than enough for 1 acre. |
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Pop
Platinum Member
England
3051 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2010 : 09:16:23 AM
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| Yes, don't cut before spraying, except the buttercups which do need to be cut before spraying otherwise its not effective, that's not my opinion, I got in a land management expert to deal with them and thats what he did and it worked immediately, whereas just spraying them didn't.. |
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angel2002
Platinum Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 May 2010 : 1:10:05 PM
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I agree with Pop, I use Grazon 90 but it has no effect on the dreaded creeping buttercups UNLESS you cut them first and spray a few days later.
Horses have to be kept off for a minimum of one week and all weeds are dead by end of 3 weeks. You do have to wait 6 weeks after spraying before you can re-seed and can't spray for a year if you have already re-seeded.
Cost me around £48 plus vat for a 1 litre bottle, I use 30ml to 5ltrs of water in a sprayer.
Brilliant stuff!
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Angel
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craig8661
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Pop
Platinum Member
England
3051 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2010 : 08:50:01 AM
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Hello Angel2002, we're a pair eh? First its  , now  .
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angel2002
Platinum Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 May 2010 : 11:56:47 AM
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Hiya Pop
Very rare to be able to have a discussion or air your views on here without things getting  and childish. Nice to find someone who I can have a with and then have a with!
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Angel
Passion Arabians
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minimate
New Member
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Posted - 25 May 2010 : 12:27:01 PM
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Hi,
In order to purchase some of Grazon I have just made a few searches regarding obtaining a Holding number for the piece of land.
Apparently the website I looked at says the Holding number scheme is a Defra register - one of the uses of which is locate animals in the case of disease.
- Not sure if I want to register now as I am not sure I want the location of my horses to be known in such circumstances
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angel2002
Platinum Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 May 2010 : 1:59:47 PM
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Hi minimate,
Try you local agricultural merchant/feed merchant, I didn't give any details when I bought mine Although it does say on the label I should have some kind of certificate for spraying.
What area do you live in?
Edited to add - Found this for you, I don't think they ask for anything other than you understanding the rules of using a pesticide www.progreen.co.uk |
Angel
Passion Arabians
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delly-b
Gold Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 May 2010 : 8:53:24 PM
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Hi again
just to say I ordered some headland polo from the above site on Saturday and didn't have to give my holding number. I spoke to them this morning and they said courier picked the parcel up from them yesterday and I should have it by tomorrow... I'll let you know what happens :-)
After looking at all the products I thought this one was best for me as I also have ragwort... Thonow wondering if I too should top the buttercups??? |
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Pop
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 26 May 2010 : 09:22:05 AM
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Maybe what you have is stronger than Grazon and will kill the buttercups without cutting, really don't know but Grazon doesnt kill Ragwort, so maybe not as strong, if thats how it works. I only get about 5 to 10 (first year) ragwort plants each year so I dig them out, but I did try Grazon on one of them last year and it looked like it had worked because the leaves died but I dug it up and the roots were still alive. If you are sraying yourself, you could try spraying a small patch of the Buttercups, give it a week or so and see what happens. As I recall, the buttercups look like they are going to die, but then seem to recover, so maybe try a small patch of cut and a small patch of uncut. Im assuming that if you go ahead and spray them all uncut, and it doesnt work, you have to wait a year before treating again?, but maybe not if you are spot spraying, but not sure. I had a terrible OCD phase with weeds, but I'm over it now. |
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sasha
Gold Member
United Kingdom
518 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2010 : 11:56:16 AM
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I had my field sprayed last week, now any buttercups, daisies, dandelions,and every other odd weed are all curled up and on their way out.
I used Depitox (2.4d) and Isomec (cmpp) I mix the Isomec in with the Depitox because I have trefoil in the field ( a clover type weed with yellow flowers and other weedkillers don't do anything.
Grazon is too expensive when you have 5 acres to do, although I know its very good. |
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Suelin
Platinum Member
England
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Posted - 26 May 2010 : 5:16:24 PM
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| I have always found that Grazon kills ragwort with no trouble at all. Are using the correct proportions? |
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horsey
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England
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