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misterei
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Mrs Vlacq
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 Posted - 10 Mar 2010 : 2:23:56 PM
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Rein back is an extremely important, useful thing but a tricky one to teach well. Arabs especially will anticipate a rein back if you teach it too soon so I leave it for later, personally, and I use a Western reinback as it works better for me.my horses
Great that he's so keen to have a go for you though. Onwards and upwards with this sunny weather 
I have to comment --- Why no hat??  |
    
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zooscat
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Posted - 10 Mar 2010 : 2:57:09 PM
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Please - what is a Western rein back? Excuse the ignorance! |
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Quarabian
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Posted - 10 Mar 2010 : 3:10:52 PM
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| I was a bit worried by all the head tossing and tail swishing. I usually start in a halter and progress to the bit once they are responding to pressure. That way they not hurting their mouth during the learning process. But hey, I don't lunge for 5 minutes either so we are working on a different system. I was also worried about your rider not wearing a hat. |
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Mrs Vlacq
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Posted - 10 Mar 2010 : 4:42:41 PM
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| A western rein back comes from seat / stirrup aids and no hand. A traditional english rein back relies on too much hand IMO. My wes instructor taught mt the aids on my open ridden horse - he knew how to rein back english style but I felt he was never happy. I did as I was told (wondering how on earth it would work) and he boldly paced backwards, perfectly straight. 2 attempts later he coulr RB the l;ength of the arena!! It's worth attending a western clinic just to learn that |
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alethea
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Posted - 10 Mar 2010 : 6:02:00 PM
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Steve
Teaching a very newly backed horse rein back is one of the worst things you can do. It will not achieve anything and can lead to problems.
I dont think Fharida looks very comfortable. Have you long reined her?? Her steering doesnt look too good and theres alot of tail swishing and she looks very unbalanced.
If i were you i would slow the training down abit. Establish the basics abit better first. There is no rush!
And i agree about the hat!!
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rosie
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Posted - 10 Mar 2010 : 6:19:26 PM
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when we back a horse, we tend to do a lot of work at walk initially before attempting trotting & rein back.
IMO a good walk helps the other paces in the future.
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Kharidian
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Posted - 10 Mar 2010 : 10:22:05 PM
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The horse has been backed for one week? Personally I would not be doing any work in the school at this point in time (other than initial mounting if you think she might shoot off). Instead I like to go for a quiet hack with a bombproof "nanny" horse + sensible rider and concentrating on free forward motion. For very newly backed youngsters I would ride part way, then dismount and lead, mounting again towards the end so they don't get too tired. As I have said in other posts, I always ensure a hack/walk is a circular route rather than there & back to reduce the possibility of napping.
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Pauline
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Posted - 10 Mar 2010 : 10:29:50 PM
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I would not teach a young horse to rein back until it is comfortable in all other paces. By all mean continue to do it in hand but not ridden yet.Your horse looks uncomfortable at trying to rein back.
About the hat: horses can kill regardless to whether it is well trained let alone a young newly backed youngster. I would never ride without a hat.
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Bex
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Posted - 11 Mar 2010 : 07:36:19 AM
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I have to say I felt a bit uncomfortable watching that video, sorry but I thought she looked confused and uncomfortable, I would slow right down and just concentrate on doing a bit more walking rather than all the trotting and forget about the reining back for now....... She's a lovely mare take your time with her!
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moatside
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jasjmm
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Posted - 11 Mar 2010 : 6:32:54 PM
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Can't see video, but Kharidian's comments seem sensible. My pet hate is people who back or re-back horses and immediately collect them up and ask for a perfect outline (not referring to your horse here Misterei, as I cannot see video or how they are going!) But to get them out on a lovely hack seeing the world with a steady companion, relaxed and forward going must be a good thing.
Later on, I do believe that they should go in any direction and although definitely not a "disciple", I always remember as great common sense, Monty Roberts saying that a horse should go in any direction and that we British were a bit paranoid about our horses going backwards. I think he was right on that. Anything can be an evasion (which going backwards in the wrong way certainly is), but Madaba happily goes in any direction I want him to, including reining back beautifully, and neck reins too. This does not and never has tempted him to go back indiscriminately, but if we had to walk back 20 foot, he would happily do it (although he'd give me that "what on earth are we doing" look. The only direction I object to going in, is up (!!!) which none of mine do (apart from an authorised "up" by Madaba over jumps!) |
    
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Reining Back - How early
