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sab2
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Posted - 06 Apr 2010 :  1:34:16 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sab2 to your friends list Send sab2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh dear how heartbreaking , poor little mite and poor mare as well, i do agree this type of breeding should be left to the experts. Hope the mare is ok.
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Clutha
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Posted - 06 Apr 2010 :  8:03:21 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Clutha to your friends list Send Clutha a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As awful as the photo is, that the poor mite died on the way out may not have been a bad thing, would hope it wasn't aware of anything. At a yard I was at there were 5 foals (polo ponies) born by the same stallion from different high class mares. 1 couldn't suckle, failed to thrive & had to be pts within few weeks thinner than when it was born. 1 born looking 'unfinished' & as though his coat was on skew whiff. had open sores where skin hadn't knitted, partially blind & brain damaged. some people took him on. now 2 years old, runs in circles & into things, always looks poor, what kind of a life does he have? blind in a field, mentally not coping with life. the third colt was born with a hind leg on backwards. unfortunately he was alive so had to be loaded into a barrow & brought into box (had foaled in the day). desperately tried to stand & feed, vet came & pts. only the 2 fillies were okay. what are the odds on that?

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LYNDILOU
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Posted - 06 Apr 2010 :  8:54:41 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LYNDILOU to your friends list Send LYNDILOU a Private Message  Reply with Quote
that is very sad , but it does not mean it was because of inbreeding necessarily , I was asked to go and help with a mare who had lost her foal in the night, it was exactly like that , but the mare and stallion were not related , not arabs one was a cob the other a Spanish lusitana ,so dont always think this is only related to close in breeding. I wont recommend in breeding but Judith Forbis wrote about this very subject in her books referring to a remote area cut off by mountains where horses inbred for generations . the results were strong healthy animals (obviously only the strongest survived ) weakness only showed up when the horses were brought out and then outcrossed with other's! much study has been done and in the right hands with careful selection of the best, line breeding and even inbreeding does not have to mean genetically poor specimins .


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george
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Wales
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Posted - 07 Apr 2010 :  9:11:05 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add george to your friends list Send george a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for everyone's comments, I agree that done carefully there is good reason for keeping important bloodlines, I myself would not, as it would be way over my head I'd have to do a hell of a lot of homework to understand it before even contemplating the idea. I believe the foal was dead for quite a while and, as Clutha said that's probably a blessing, the vet said there was no way it would have survived anyway. Poor little thing was so perfect every other way though, it's just so sad.

George xxx
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jackiedo
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Posted - 31 May 2010 :  09:50:06 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jackiedo to your friends list Send jackiedo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It is sad, but sadly even some totally unrelated human babies are born with deformities.
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george
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Wales
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Posted - 31 May 2010 :  12:53:29 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add george to your friends list Send george a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have just heard that the stallion has had 2 other foals born similar although the reliability of the person who told me is in doubt, but I know one of them was a wry nose and I tried to explain that this is not hereditary (please correct me if I am wrong) as far as I'm aware. I just hope that people will stop using this stallion as he is not licenced anyway

George xxx
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