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oddellie
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 Posted - 02 Jan 2010 : 7:18:14 PM
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can anyone give me any advice,on a horse i have for sale .The buyer wants the horse for a 8 week trial period and lives 100s of miles away from me,i have spoken about us doing a contract but how else can i protect myself.Or should i ask for a deposit as anyone ever been in this poistion before as i dont know what to do thks .
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susan p
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Gerri
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England
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Posted - 02 Jan 2010 : 7:31:57 PM
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| I did that once, I was interested in a mare, so I gave the woman half the purchase price and had the mare on loan for 4 weeks, with the mare to be returned or paid for in full after the 4 week period. It worked really well,as I was pretty sure that if she was willing to let us have her for the trial period that the mare must be what she said it was, and after the initial settling in period she was as good as gold, so we were all happy, I bought her, she checked me out first, came and looked where I would be keeping her asked for the name of my vet and farrier etc. if the horse is really genuine then the owners usually don't mind a trial period, is someone lives close by then the trial period can be done over a period of time with the horse at the persons who is selling but not if they live 100 miles away. |
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Sahir
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England
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Posted - 02 Jan 2010 : 7:39:54 PM
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Not under any circumstances - tell the buyer they can have any trial whilst in your yard but DON'T let them take your horse away from you until a) you are happy with them (the buyer) and b) you have been paid in full in cash (or wait until the cheque has cleared before saying good bye to your horse) A "contract" means nothing - if
they decide to take your horse away & sell her/him the "contract" wont be worth the paper it's written on, sad but true!!!!! It's terrible to have to be like this, but better than being ripped off and losing your lovely horse to God knows what end. Of course there are genuine, honest people looking to buy but then they wouldn't expect you to agree to your horse being taken away for 8 weeks hundreds of miles away.
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s.jade
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Posted - 02 Jan 2010 : 7:45:58 PM
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The right sounding home for my boy was 300 miles away!
What we agreed was full sale price was paid to me, with a guarantee in writing that if he wasn't as described or they weren't suited - I would give a full refund after the 4 week trial.
He had to be insured, and returned in the same condition, we had it written into the contract that any costs incurred due to damage to him/poor health on return would be deducted from the refund - no travel costs were incurred by me - that was all the buyers cost to collect and return him.
All went well, he is still there 3 years on and none of us could have wished for a better outcome  |
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Rach1
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England
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Posted - 02 Jan 2010 : 7:52:30 PM
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if in doubt - leave it out. you will only kick your self if it all goes wrong. You dont know this person from a bar of soap, quite frankly i m o they are taking the p.
Plenty more buyers out there.
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xsara
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Posted - 02 Jan 2010 : 9:10:40 PM
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| i am just wondering why 8 weeks surely four weeks is more than sufficient enough we have sold horses who went on a two week trial period and we dropped the horse of so we knew exactly where the horse was going. And it worked well they got vetted and were sold. |
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munchie
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Posted - 02 Jan 2010 : 9:39:36 PM
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I'm sure we all wouldn't say no to a free horse for 8 weeks! 
Why can't they get it vetted by a local vet and come down with a good instructor to ride it? Then they can pay for it with an agreement to refund in full minus any vets bills/out of pocket injuries after 4 weeks?
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Holly
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England
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Posted - 02 Jan 2010 : 11:07:31 PM
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slightly different scenario but when i brought Cristle fron Nikki (who posts on here) i viewed cristle in Cardif but live at the bottom of Cornwall. Nikki agreed for me to take Cristle on a 3 month loan period and if we were both happy after the 3 months then i could buy her. Before I picked cristle up Nikki got Debbie(who posts on here) to visit my yard and check me out. Nikki and I then wrote a contract between us and both signed it etc. Nikki kept all Cristles documents until I paid for her. After the 3 month loan period was up Nikki came down to Cornwall to visit me and Cristle where i gave her the cash and she gave me all the paper work. We also became friends and have kept in contact ever since.
Of course things can go wrong but some people are genuine so you need to listen to your gut instinct.
Another scenario that ive been in was when I brought my first arabian from Michael Harris in Devon..I took Nakeeta home after only paying a quater of her price as a deposit and then paid Michael in monthly installments over 6 months. There was no contracr drawn up just a simple hand written agreement hand scribbled by Michael. Again he didnt give me Nakeetas documents until he recieved the last payment.
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Kazhak
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Posted - 03 Jan 2010 : 03:57:07 AM
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Hi, I guess it really depends,
We had a horse up for sale & the potential buyer requested a trial to see if the horse was suitable which is fair enough,
we had a written agreement that also included medical stuff too, as if the horse was injured at their establishment while on trial with them & they deiced they didn't want him we didn't want to be stuck with vet bills, so that was included in an agreement, lucky nothing happened to him & the people were really happy with him & bought him.
Different story & slightly different, we leased a mare to some people 100s of kilometers away, it was written in an agreement that they had to return the horse after 18 months we didn't get the horse back until almost 3 years later, they refused to return her & kept asking for her papers they even said they'd buy her but she wasn't for sale only for lease as a special favour to friends of my dads, eventually we went to see her & they had neglected her badly,
I would advise you to be very careful about this one, if they are so far away it makes it hard for you to check on the mare, & a question why they would need 8 weeks to trial the horse. I would say no, it sounds a little dodgey to me.. |
     
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Sirius
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debs
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 06:25:28 AM
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| is the buyer known to ALiners??? Maybe if someonee knew them? |
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nikki
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 11:26:23 AM
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hiya holly,
yes and hasn't cristle just had the bestest home i could of ever wished for her!!
but i am sure it was a 6 month loan?
6 months, 3 months, a few weeks, i still be prepared and would rather do it that way to make sure the horse has a good home.
Thankfully as holly says, Debbie kindly visited holly to check on her horses and yard, so thankyou again debbie.
I did ask holly for personel details, such as a utility bill, copy of drivers licence.
I also loaned another horse, and they were meant to buying the horse at the end of the agreement, and kept on making up a load of tosh, so the horse came back.
But as others said i would always listen to your gut instinct. |
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oddellie
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England
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Posted - 04 Jan 2010 : 9:06:56 PM
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thks for your advice no the person who wants her is not even a arab person,think i will say no thks |
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