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pintoarabian
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Scotland
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 Posted - 07 Jan 2010 : 7:30:13 PM
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| One of the treatments our filly was given on the vet's recommendation was 15 soluble aspirin every second day to thin the blood to help bloodflow into her hooves. This treatment went on for many weeks. Bear in mind she is a pure bred and was a yearling at the time so a more mature, larger horse might need more. I hasten to add that this was only one of a range of last ditch things that were tried with her to pull her back from the brink. They worked! By the way, her laminitis was induced by toxins leaking into her system from a bacterial gut infection. |
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rhoni
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Jan 2010 : 8:40:18 PM
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| Just seen this - best wishes to all and hope Honey can prove them all wrong again! |
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honey
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N. Ireland
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Posted - 07 Jan 2010 : 9:53:21 PM
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| thankyou. She was a little sore tonight with yesterdays trim so shes on metacam at the min and sedalin twice a day, so hope she doesn't get worse. |
    
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Jumanji
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Scotland
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Posted - 07 Jan 2010 : 10:16:50 PM
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Been reading this topic with great interest,
I have a very dedicated friend with a pony willing to fight ,who tried everything with the vet and farrier ,to no avail,and read and did exactly as told in JAMIE JACKSONS book ,PREVENTION AND CURE,from removing his shoes to living a totally grass free life.
He is now starting his 3rd year in his second life.
Still grass free,shoe free,drugs free,wormer free,totally toxin free Living on hay and oat by product pellets.However ,happy and ALIVE.
He lives with me and i watched all of the past 3 yrs with the most amazing interest.
She is a real special person ,who never ever gave up,it wasn't working for her pony ,so she looked for other options.
Hopefully she will join us and come on here and tell you all her story,and hopefully her story might help others.
Cheryl. |
Edited by - Jumanji on 07 Jan 2010 10:19:56 PM |
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honey
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N. Ireland
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Posted - 07 Jan 2010 : 10:51:15 PM
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| thats lovely cheryl i hope she comes on and tells all. i think a lot more is known about lami now and i would love to learn other methods out there that could be the answer. |
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Jumanji
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Scotland
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Posted - 07 Jan 2010 : 11:28:58 PM
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Im sure she will ,in the meantime please get a hold of that book,it truely is an amazin read,you will benefit masses just by reading it.
Also you will understand more about why she is sounder with long toes, and how moving around is very important to increase blood flow and help her.
Best wishes, Cheryl |
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jaj
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Jan 2010 : 12:44:43 AM
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| I've just sent the link for the book to my friend who I'm sure will find it useful, thank you! |
     
Kuraishiya (Maleik el Kheil/Kazra el Saghira) and Sahara Bey (Kuraishiya/WSA Charismma) |
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Jumanji
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Scotland
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Posted - 09 Jan 2010 : 11:34:08 AM
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Hi all sorry to hear of all these lamnitis stories. Cheryl has been telling me about it and asked me to write a wee note about my experience with nasty persistent case of laminitis with my pony. He had on and off bouts of laminitis for several years culminating in severe attack that led to him being immobilised heart bars box rest etc etc. X rays showed some rotation, souls bulging downwards all very desperate. Despite his obvious suffering - (would recover then go backwards)there was something in him that seemed not to want to give up so I decided having had the Jamie Jackson Founder Prevention and Cure the natural Way book for about a year read & re-read, worried about 'jumping off the cliff' of conventional thought on dealing with this horrible condition that the time had come. I reached this conclusion after having to fib to farrier coming to re-fit heartbars that I had to go to Glasgow that day and would not be there when he came - truth was I could not bear to watch my boy endure the shoes being taken off and put back on again. I called a AANHCP barefoot trimmer, Nic Hill, and he promised to come the Friday. So having paid £90 for shoes Monday paid £40 to get them off Friday! It was a difficult moment but I truly felt that having tried time and again the way I'd been told and got nowhere this was his last hope. After all doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different reslt is the definition of insanity - Shoes off, stable door open, hay nets in stable & outside. Only feed speedibeet & salt/mineral lick - NO HAPPY HOOF etc all got bloody molases in them check labels very carefully! Let him move if he wants to. This was Janary 2007. Day by day he moved a little more. Trimmed every 3 weeks very little at a time - we ended up with huge wierd toes sticking out but the new growth correct and within a couple of months he was sound in boots on ok going and school. Toes took ages to get grown out but to have chopped them would have been too drastic a step which sounds like what happened to the pony here. Also chopping back toes sets up opportnity for infection to get in - ugh! More cider viniger on these feet... Please give the Jamie Jackson book a look. It is a big step but if yo have tried all other avenues what have you to lose. If your horse just has not lost will to live they will thank you for it. I asked vet about what I was doing to make sre they'd still give me pain killers for him whilst we started change and they agreed. Now most impressed with results.
Ticket now sound - spent most of 2008 summer sound and working and all of last season at SERC pleasure rides - except when I get stupid ideas abot trying him on oats - NO, did not work - haylage ? - NO (after recent 2 week attempt the pulse and slight footiness came back - what a twit I am...) He is very sensitive to sugar levels. Think underlying issue with him long term fattness had lead to upset metabolism which is not very sensitive to change. Thats the other thing about this. Try to stip everything out to find what triggers it. Ticket no longer flu vac's as this upsets him, gets tetenus as that kills you qicker that laminitis might. Also on herbal wormers. There are usually alternatives to most commonly used things eg homeopathic etc. Whilst I remember homeopathic pharmacy Ainsworths have been highly recommended to me for laminitis remedies - very helpful and knowledgable. Could ramble on all day - please contact Cheryl if I can be of any help. Also check out safergrass.org lady in US right into - yes title a giveaway - safer grass for horses. My boy problems also related to grazing on ex-dairy cow pastre - eek! Wrong grass, too much fertiliser recipe for disaster. Another good one and great books Pete Ramey - hes so enthusastic about getting these horses sound - his website - hoofrehab.com I think. And yes, going now - also learned Eqine Touch whilst Ticket ill and this really helped him and his poor twisted sore body to heal. Good luck, Jane |
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loosefur
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Posted - 12 Jan 2010 : 3:42:14 PM
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What a great story Jumanji - much kudos to you for taking the plunge... it's not easy when vets/farriers are telling you one thing but your gut is telling you it's just not working. Jaime Jackson's Founder book is amazing, I urge everyone to read it, whether their horse suffers or not, because ALL horses can get lami.
I spent two weeks before Christmas in the US being trained by Jaime Jackson and will be going on to do further training with Nick Hill. Jaime is a lovely person and very inspiring - he recommends things because he knows they work, time after time. Hopefully lots of people will read about your success story and head down the same path. |
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honey
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N. Ireland
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Posted - 12 Jan 2010 : 6:20:19 PM
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| i agree in the past we always took shoes off if lame as the way forward. i have told my sister to invest in some boots for her and take shoes off completely. All my lot are barefoot, gizzy competes on all terrain and has never had shoes on, and my stallions near 11 an also bare foot all his life!. |
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Jumanji
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Scotland
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Posted - 12 Jan 2010 : 8:23:27 PM
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WOW ,Angela,i read somewhere that you'd done training in the US ,but did not realise it was with the man himself.Well done you.Nick Hill,he's in Inverness(is he the same Nick) an yr ,well a long way away.Janes pony Ticket is a real success story for Nic.Exactly as that book describes is what Ticket endured.
Nick has been trimming my youngster for bout yr and half now,he did 504 km last yr barefoot,this yr he will take on a novice season,will be very interesting.
Out of interest did you take Ged's shoes off?
Regards Cheryl'
Honey,How is Honey doing???????????????
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loosefur
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Posted - 12 Jan 2010 : 9:13:44 PM
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Hey Cheryl - I forgot that was your log in name! Yep same Nick. He's the only qualified Field Instructor in the UK so wherever he goes I have to go to get my field training in! For the rest I'll be heading over to the continent.
I have taken Ged's shoes off - back in August but just after I broke a bone in my foot so wasn't able to work him. His foot structures are very weak, years of shoeing have taken their toll, but once he's back in work I'm hoping they'll strengthen up and improve quickly. The Easyboot Gloves are a good fit on him though so you'll hopefully see him out and about this season, along with Haj and new boy Sid. All happily barefoot! |
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xsara
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Posted - 15 Jan 2010 : 11:00:57 PM
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| Hi thanks for your stories and hope i thought i would give a little update. She seems alot happier in her self and not just as sore as she was i turned her out and she seems alot more comfortable in her self and at first instance you wouldn't even know she was lame even cornering alot better, but she still is not 100% sound. I had the equine touch lady work on her muscles again tonight and she was much improved from the first time she seen her but she still had pain in the left side of wither area and her right tendon in her shoulder which brought alot of heat to the area, so a bit more box rest and see how she is. I plan to get a couple of more trims to bring her feet in line then taking her shoes of and putting her out to the field for the summer which will hopefully solve the problem o and i have ordered a copy of that book so looking forward to the reading |
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