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egyptianstallion
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Posted - 10 Nov 2009 :  6:59:34 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add egyptianstallion to your friends list Send egyptianstallion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello

My 16yr gelding tyed up for the first time about a month ago, we had the vet and blood tests and there was nothing else wrong with him.
He had 10days off and i have been doing a little bit of light work walking for 20 mins. Ever since his little episode he has been very stiff more that normal which i understand. Just wanted to ask if any one can give any advise on getting my boy back on form and any suggestions on any supplements i can get him? Was thinking about cortaflex he is on glucosamine at the mo.

Thank you

charlotte x


Surrey/Berkshire http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ibn+kysari
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Kharidian
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Posted - 10 Nov 2009 :  9:35:58 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kharidian to your friends list Send Kharidian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry to hear this; can you pinpoint anything different in his exercise routine that may have triggered this episode? Kharidian had an episode (just once) many years ago - we were out in harness and a prat on a motorbike thought it would be fun to get his wheel right behind the trap and rev for all he was worth, Kharidian obviously wanted to get away but I held him (we were on a busy road at the time) but the fight/flight instinct tensed him up so much that he had a relatively minor case of azoturia (stiff hind legs that day, abnormal Ck and Ast levels in the blood, minor stiffness which resolved in a few days) which has never returned.

I wouldn't think that Cortaflex or Glucosamine would help, as azoturia is actually a muscle problem rather than a joint problem. Vitamim E and Selenium are the recommended supplements but hopefully your boy's incident will be a one-off.

Caryn

Kharidian (Prince Sadik x Khiri)........ Alkara Cassino (H Tobago x Rose Aboud)
aka "Roger".................................... aka "Chips"

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Valentine Arabians
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Posted - 11 Nov 2009 :  05:33:41 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Valentine Arabians to your friends list Send Valentine Arabians a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Our foundation mare had an episode of azoturia about 6 years ago. I searched the internet for everything and anything! It was suggested that 'Lysine, Selenium & Vitamin E' given as a continuous maintenance dose helps. I have been giving it to her since then and she is fine, no stiffness or apparent problems and no further tying up.

Caryn is right, azoturia is a muscle problem not a joint/stiffness problem...maybe he has 'put' something out with the muscle cramping and a tweek from a back person will help to resolve your boy's problems. Good luck.

Liz


Liz & Walter Downes
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LIV
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Posted - 11 Nov 2009 :  08:37:03 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LIV to your friends list Send LIV a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi

Baileys Outshine is suitable for feeding to horses with azoturia. Here is the link:-
http://www.baileyshorsefeeds.co.uk/whatproduct/supplements/outshine.htm


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shfwarrior
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Posted - 11 Nov 2009 :  2:33:52 PM  Show Profile  Send shfwarrior an AOL message  Click to see shfwarrior's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add shfwarrior to your friends list Send shfwarrior a Private Message  Reply with Quote
an old fashioned preventative is 1tsp of bicarb of soda in drinking water reduced the chances of recurrance cheers sue


Dymchurch,Kent
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egyptianstallion
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Posted - 11 Nov 2009 :  3:58:40 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add egyptianstallion to your friends list Send egyptianstallion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you for your replies he is on outshine and have put him back on high fibre nuts rather than a mix. Someone said about bicarb s may try this.
Saw this on my local tack shop has anyone ever tried it? http://www.equine-america.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=tye-gard.

Thank you again

x


Surrey/Berkshire http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ibn+kysari

Edited by - egyptianstallion on 14 Nov 2009 2:40:27 PM
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phoenixbruka
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Posted - 14 Nov 2009 :  4:14:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit phoenixbruka's Homepage Bookmark this reply Add phoenixbruka to your friends list Send phoenixbruka a Private Message  Reply with Quote
the effects can last many many weeks after an attack, I'd have a chat to your vet and possibly have more blood tests done to see if the enzyme levels are still up

My boy was once in for 6 weeks on box rest after an attack ( and not a MEGA bad one either!)

Working them to soon can result in permanent damage to the muscles if the enzymes got to them in the attack.

I'd air on the side of caution if it was mine

susie


www.liveryatcordwell.co.uk
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