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carole ferguson
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Posted - 25 Aug 2009 :  3:01:48 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add carole ferguson to your friends list Send carole ferguson a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Again,

I can't find any fillies named Safira or Safia - and nothing bred to Majid - but my information is only up to the very early 1930's - but the Muntz had several mares - and they certainly used arabian's on them.
Cup Moss - mare born 1910 - had a filly in 1921 called Kissing Cup by Riyal (Arabian - probably born 1910)
Fairyland - 1909 - by Mikado (Fell) - had a filly in 1917 called Darling of the Gods by Feysul (Arabian) - and a filly in 1919 called Good Fairy by a horse called Silver Bullet (don't know how this was bred)
Foxhams Blue Fairy was by a Dartmoor out of Fairyland - born 1926- and bred several foals - but sire not quoted.
Sugar Plum 1913- out of Pink May - had several foals including a filly in 1918 by Arthurs Pride -another called Silver Cage born 1920 by Silver Bullet -and Barley Sugar - 1921 by London Pride.
The Dart 1917 - had a filly in 1922 by Riyal (Arab)
Coraline - 1923 - by The Leat (by Dwarka) out of Cora was bought from Sylvia Calmady Hamlyn- but I can't find any progeny - but she may be in the later stud books.
I can see from the information I have - that Arabian stallions were used - as were the Welsh later on - as my old Dartmoor mare Boveycombe Barley shows from her pedigree.
I will see if my friend can get hold of the later stud books - then I will have a look through them.
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 01 Sep 2009 :  3:44:10 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Me back again, Melynda, Please can you add the breeding for BRYNHEULOG SHIPRAHN, I don't have it, is Shiprahn out of Pigeon too...????. and I'm wondering if there are any more..and what colour they are.. ( I've added B El Cid (1969)Grey. PBAR Vol X. page 9.)
Your Data S. pedigree should say SAFIA ( Not Safira).
Thanks Sue

Sue

Edited by - Rozy Rider on 01 Sep 2009 3:50:43 PM
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Melynda
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Posted - 01 Sep 2009 :  4:30:29 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Melynda to your friends list Send Melynda a Private Message  Reply with Quote
BRYNHEULOG SHIPRAHN
Sorry but I can't check it as she is in PBAR VI which I haven't got.
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Pelle
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Posted - 01 Sep 2009 :  6:47:15 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pelle to your friends list Send Pelle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Brynheulog Shiphrah 1961 Br/ch
by Kerim AHSB VIII
ex Pigeon PBA VI
Miss L G Lewis
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Nimlat
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Posted - 02 Sep 2009 :  11:00:43 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nimlat to your friends list Send Nimlat a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Peter Upton has a reference to Mabroud, born 1907,(NPS vol 18)
imported c.1923 from India by N.W.Muir. Played polo. -
in his book "The Arab Horse".
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 03 Sep 2009 :  12:41:45 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for your imput folks.I'd take a guess that Dartmoor feature in this crossbread breeding. I've found Mrs Oscar J Muntz with Dartmoors, prefix Foxham and Kavora, also Polo and Riding ponies,Stallions and mares, bred and bought in and winning at County Shows all around the 1934 - 1939, as I only have NPS Vol.XXII & XXIII.
Thanks again folks..
Sue

Sue
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Rozy Rider
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Posted - 11 Sep 2009 :  9:55:08 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rozy Rider to your friends list Send Rozy Rider a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Leaving you Pelle 's pic of Majid 1930, the only one found so far..Thanks Pelle a great job...

Majid 1930.
Only Part Bred Arab stock found so far.

Carol keep looking...can you find any of the part breds listed by Majid, if you want me to list them again..just ask..& Thanks
Sue

Sue

Edited by - Rozy Rider on 11 Sep 2009 10:06:47 PM
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