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angelarab
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Posted - 19 Jun 2009 :  08:21:35 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add angelarab to your friends list Send angelarab a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you accrue lieu hours at your place of work, what are you allowed to use them for?
I have 6 1/2 hours and asked early in week if i could finish 2 hours early today, (my job list is upto date etc) to be told, you are not really meant to use them for personal time, that's what your holidays are for! lou are can be used for dental/docs etc!!!.
I don't get paid o/t only lou hours.
My doc has an eve surgery and i go to the dentist 2 year and have never had a sick day!



"Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened."
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Edited by - angelarab on 19 Jun 2009 08:50:17 AM
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gossy
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Posted - 19 Jun 2009 :  08:28:03 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gossy to your friends list Send gossy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/Timeoffandholidays/DG_10029788

take at look here, its lieu time, and we allow anyone to take time accrued for anything, they dont have to give a reason, we pay for doctors/dentist and other things, ie weddings, but time that has been worked and you are entitled to take off i think you are allowed and it can be personal time. hope this makes sense!

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sub
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Posted - 19 Jun 2009 :  08:47:13 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sub to your friends list Send sub a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You can take lieu time for anything - it is hours owed to you.
Stand your ground as they can only refuse due to operational requirements.
You are not required to use your lieu or annual leave for appointments with dentist, dr etc... with any company.

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angelarab
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Posted - 19 Jun 2009 :  08:55:29 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angelarab to your friends list Send angelarab a Private Message  Reply with Quote
thanks for spell check, i am rubbish
Think they are trying to push me out feel like i am suffering Chinese water torcher. Going to take my contract home tonight and phone ACAS, thanks for your help Gossy and Sub, i feel quite upset i am trying my best for them and they treat me like

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brychens mum
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Posted - 19 Jun 2009 :  09:31:09 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add brychens mum to your friends list Send brychens mum a Private Message  Reply with Quote
depends on the terms of your employment contract. I am supposed to work a 37 hour week, its unusual if I do less than 40 hours and in April did between 45 to 56+ hours per week. My contract is 37 hours or such time is required - the concept of lieu leave isnt recoginised here! Im not moaning though as I love my job and the firm I work for is great.
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Gerri
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Posted - 19 Jun 2009 :  09:53:33 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gerri to your friends list Send Gerri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It seems a bit unfair to me if you give your time and more surely it swings and roundabouts they should appreciate it and bend a little for you now and again the trouble is the better you are it seems the more you are taken for granted, it seems to be the way of the world
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gossy
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Posted - 19 Jun 2009 :  10:19:56 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gossy to your friends list Send gossy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://employmenttribunalprotection.co.uk/employers/ask-experts.html

you can get an online answer now!! i think you are entitled to take it for whatever you like.

Paula

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BabsR
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Posted - 19 Jun 2009 :  10:37:00 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BabsR to your friends list Send BabsR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Agree there.......you are definitely entitled to take `owed hours` for whatever purpose and do not have to state the reasons !!

Provided you give sufficient notice to allow for staffing levels, your Firm cannot refuse you, to take your lieu hours at a time you require

You are right....some Companies do put on the `willing worker`....stick to your guns girl!!

Babs

www.SunrayAngloArabianStud.co.uk

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angelarab
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Posted - 19 Jun 2009 :  11:04:47 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angelarab to your friends list Send angelarab a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by brychens mum

depends on the terms of your employment contract. I am supposed to work a 37 hour week, its unusual if I do less than 40 hours and in April did between 45 to 56+ hours per week. My contract is 37 hours or such time is required - the concept of lieu leave isnt recoginised here! Im not moaning though as I love my job and the firm I work for is great.


What industry are you in? do you get anything in return for your extra hours, money, choccies or even a thank you?

"Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened."
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Nut
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Posted - 19 Jun 2009 :  11:24:59 AM  Show Profile  Click to see Nut's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add Nut to your friends list Send Nut a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We have standard contracts that show a 37.5 hour week but other than our administration team whom work to the set 9-530pm hours the rest of our client facing staff work the 'hours required to get the job done'. There is no official time in lieu policy and we do not pay overtime but I would like to think we are flexible and when we go away on weekend events I dont expect them in at 9am on the monday morning unless they have a client meeting or pre agreed deliverables. We do not make them take time off for dentist/doctor/ sick leave and if they have worked hard then we are quite flexible on leaving early for the weekend etc. Its swings and roundabouts and this more flexible system seems to work for us. Hope you get this resolved to your satisfaction.

www.ndlarabians.webs.com

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brychens mum
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Posted - 19 Jun 2009 :  12:25:25 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add brychens mum to your friends list Send brychens mum a Private Message  Reply with Quote
'What industry are you in? do you get anything in return for your extra hours, money, choccies or even a thank you?'

that made be chuckle.

I am in accountancy, I get to keep my job and progress which given the current climate is good enough for me! The directors that run the business work even madder hours!!!

mind you I did get a great bonus this year which has paid for car and will pay for new horsey when I find it. I am really lucky to have this job as its a brill firm.
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jacki
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Posted - 19 Jun 2009 :  1:42:06 PM  Show Profile  Send jacki an AOL message  Click to see jacki's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add jacki to your friends list Send jacki a Private Message  Reply with Quote
toil is just that you cant be told what to use it for and you should just have to notify when you want it. my other half sometimes takes a toil day between n rest days n ends up with a week off paid!
his last employer was so short staffed that toil couldnt be taken safley so at the end of 2 months hay paid toil hours at basic rate! he left after this happened 5 months in a row

sittingbourne kent
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Sarah_Jane
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Posted - 19 Jun 2009 :  2:05:28 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sarah_Jane to your friends list Send Sarah_Jane a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Your employer sounds horrible, why dont you tell them that you HAVE got a Docs appointment

Mid Cornwall
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precious
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Posted - 19 Jun 2009 :  2:55:38 PM  Show Profile  Click to see precious's MSN Messenger address Bookmark this reply Add precious to your friends list Send precious a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dito they dont sound very nice.
if any of my team have lou hours owed to them as long as they give me notice they can take them off for what ever reason.
Def ring ACAS found out where you stand and start building a list up of situations like this incase you need it in future


Gemma Thompson
Birmingham West Midlands
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ashquar
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Posted - 19 Jun 2009 :  9:47:51 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ashquar to your friends list Send ashquar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Angel,
I am so glad I work for myself. If I want a day or week off, I can.
There is a downside no sick pay, no holiday pay and no work no pay but I can live with that.
It's just hard sometimes but it always comes right in the end.


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angelarab
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Posted - 19 Jun 2009 :  11:05:14 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angelarab to your friends list Send angelarab a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well i did take my lieu hours and will take whats coming on Monday.. but check out my news on Horse discussion!, well worth it

"Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains unawakened."
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