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Nichole Waller
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 Posted - 31 May 2009 : 8:15:25 PM
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I notice in a lot of pictures that Arab's have the top part of their mane shaved / clipped.
Being a new Arab owner can you tel me why they do this? I'm taking my 4 year old to a local in-hand class in June, do i need to clip his mane?
How much should i take off?
I'm not sure he has ever had clippers near him...! If he doesn't like the clippers, can i do it with scissors?
Is their a book i can buy on showing Arabs that tells me all the tips / requirements so i don't have to keep asking you good people such silly questions..? 
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Judith S
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Posted - 31 May 2009 : 8:23:31 PM
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You have opened a can of worms with your post!!! This subject has been talked about in great depth many time over on here! To do a "bridle path" or not?! My arabs all have full manes - but then I don't show them.....but according to breed standard Arabs are supposed to have full manes...........correct me if I am wrong!?
I am sure you will get many answers to your post! At the end of the day - decide if you want to do it or not!!! |
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pintoarabian
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karen d
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Kharidian
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Posted - 31 May 2009 : 8:28:53 PM
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Nichole,
It's "fashion", in a word. Around 15 years ago (or so), only imported horses were allowed to be shown with a bridlepath (I think it used to be prevalent only in the US), and only in the year they were imported as, after that the mane had to be allowed to grow out.....then all and sundry jumped on the band-wagon and the rules have changed and most people now clip.
Personally I am against it and will not clip a bridlepath; however at the UK International last year I think I was probably the only one in my class who had not been clipped (and I showed Kharidian traditionally too, but that's another story).
Don't do it!
Caryn
PS Where is this local show?
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Edited by - Kharidian on 31 May 2009 8:29:51 PM |
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BeckyBoodle
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Posted - 31 May 2009 : 8:33:36 PM
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I prefer unclipped, but it is preference.
Did you find out if Lisa Dunn still has Omar El Sireff and Shahliah? My girl is by them too.
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Nichole Waller
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Posted - 31 May 2009 : 8:43:15 PM
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The local show is at Brook Farm Training Centre, Stapleford Abbotts, Essex on 21st June. It's a general showing show and i was going to take my boy in the Arab / Anglo Arab & PBA in hand class. As he is 4 he can't do the youngstock class and he's not backed yet (although did sit on him today bare back....)so can't do the ridden classes.
As i've only had him 3 weeks, i just want to see how he behaves when he's out. I imagine it will be very low key (although i really don't know as i've never been to a showing show )
I'm still trying to get the end of his tail white (instead of wee stained yellow... ). Have tried the shampoo's recommended by AL in one of my previous posts (spent a fortune at the local saddlery) and tried biological washing powder, but still got a yellow tail... He does appear to have a few brown hairs running through his tail so maybe it's supposed to be more yellow than white....!
I better practice trotting him up and down and see if i can get him to stand square..
I'll think about the 'bridal path'... |
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BabsR
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Posted - 31 May 2009 : 8:47:57 PM
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Absolutely NOT COMPULSERY Just a matter of choice. So why hassle your boy with clippers if no need
Hogging an extended bridle path is just another fashion fad which began in USA and has made its way across the water to us.
Personally IMO, `natural` is best
Good luck and have fun with your Boy
Babs
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loulou
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Posted - 31 May 2009 : 8:56:52 PM
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Hi Nicole
Good luck at Brook Farm. To be honest it is a lo w key show and like post before it is completly your preference. Personally go with your instinct and what you prefer - i like the shaved mane! And all mine are shaved But they wouldn't expect it at brook and possibly will ask why you shaved it!!
If you get the chance Nicole try and go to Hocon at Braintree this Saturday and have a good watch - it can be a great learning curve to see how different people present their horses but you will get excellent ideas on how you want to present your horse.
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Judith S
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Posted - 31 May 2009 : 9:02:59 PM
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| A cheap & cheerful shampoo that does work is the Gold Lable one for greys.....I've used it for year on Sly (grey Arab who would rather be brown!) - for tail/mane...soak hair liberly apply GL shampoo - work in - leave for 10 mins - rinse off & do the same again!! |
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Nichole Waller
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Posted - 31 May 2009 : 9:07:33 PM
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Beckyboodle i've pm'd you.
Loulou - what a shame i can't make Saturday (Family BBQ for Nephew's Birthday so will be really popular if bale out...) I must try and get to a few more shows to give me more of an idea what's required.
There is another one fairly local in July (Dunmow way i think..?) Again just a general show with an Arab class, but as both me and my boy are such beginners we have to start somewhere...
Thanks everyone for your help. |
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kimzi
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Posted - 31 May 2009 : 9:51:43 PM
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Hi Nichole, which show is it?
If you're July one is felsted scrub up good as there is always a good turnout. |
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Nichole Waller
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Posted - 31 May 2009 : 10:09:29 PM
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| Thanks Kimzi, yes i think it is Felstead. I'll see how we get on at Brook Farm on 21st and then decide if i'm going. Thanks for the tip. |
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Cage Alma Arabians
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Posted - 03 Jun 2009 : 7:40:35 PM
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We NEVER put bridle paths in. Don't like them and they are not necessary. As the horse trots out the mane flows back showing the neck anyway. And the judge walks round and looks at the horse from both sides.
Another unnecessary fashion!!
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gossy
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Posted - 03 Jun 2009 : 7:42:27 PM
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unfortunately mine has shaved hers herself on the nearest tree, she has mane at the top and bottom but mohican in the middle, very attractive(NOT) |
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Goldenmane
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Posted - 03 Jun 2009 : 7:55:42 PM
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A mohican arab . Personally, I think it is a terrible shame to shave any part of a horse, but especially an arab. |
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donna72_uk
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Posted - 03 Jun 2009 : 8:11:32 PM
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| Hi Nichole when i first got Star he had a shaved bridle path and i was quite in shock lol i said in my head didn't they know your not suppose to do that with an arabSo i grew it all out well after going to watch at Towerlands the same year i realised a lot of the horses had it done and i came on here and asked the same question you have so really its your choice personally i prefer a full mane |
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Songbird
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Posted - 04 Jun 2009 : 10:23:45 AM
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| I'm not a fan myself of shaved manes but if I show in hand I sometimes compromise by doing a tiny tight neat crest plait for the area which would be shaved . That way you can have the best of both worlds . I've seen lots of top pros do that in the past before they all rushed for the clippers! |
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MinHe
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Posted - 04 Jun 2009 : 12:04:45 PM
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Since you're doing an 'open show' where there will be lots of other breeds present, I'd recommend you DON'T do it. Why not? Because it's one of the things that makes other equestrians point and laugh at Arabs as not being 'real horses'.
As others have said, it's nothing more than a fashion fad, like wearing jeans cut so low your rear cleavage shows whenever you bend - and about as attractive.
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jasjmm
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Posted - 04 Jun 2009 : 1:16:24 PM
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Hi Nichole
The bridle path is supposed to give an opportunity for a judge to see the horse's clean throatlatch and head better. If you are going to mixed or local shows, I wouldn't bother. If you are going to show at any really big shows, then I think they can look better. I must admit, I fought putting a bridle path into Madaba, my stallion's mane for years, but finally did one last year and I have to say it really suited him. Always worth considering too though, how long they take to grow out!! I will put bridle path back in this year (as soon as I can mend my clippers!) but only because I will probably show Madaba at UKIAHS again. That said, Marwan al Shaqab appeared on the International circuit last year WITHOUT a bridle path (this is a horse that has been World Champion 3 times). I did hear that they were out of favour in the US (or possibly his handler thought he had nothing to prove anyway!!!)
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alethea
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Posted - 04 Jun 2009 : 1:42:17 PM
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Karen d.....you know you love the shaved manes really!!! lol  
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Roseanne
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Posted - 04 Jun 2009 : 2:52:18 PM
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They take a while too grow out, as jasjmm says, but my concern with a chestnut would be that the hair often grows back grey!! So beware as there are lovely champion Arabs out there which will have a distinct greying area behind the ears if and when they do grow their manes back. I have greys anyway but wouldn't do it because mine are out 24/7 and I believe they need the mane to take the rain away from the head and neck area.
Enjoy the show! |
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lisa rachel
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gossy
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Posted - 04 Jun 2009 : 11:27:07 PM
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| well my filly has scrubbed out all of her mane, any ideas???? i will post pics tomorrow!! |
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Otto
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Posted - 05 Jun 2009 : 12:38:28 PM
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My gelding has a shaved mane - to be honest I wish I hadn't done it although it looks OK, quite attractive in some ways. My dilemma now is when to grow it back because obviously its going to take ages and it is going to look terrible for a while - I really don't want to shorten the rest of it to level the growth out because he has a gorgeous long wavy mane.
If in doubt don't shave the mane as like I'm finding once done it is a pain to "un do"!!!
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amy_southworth
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Posted - 05 Jun 2009 : 1:03:28 PM
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Shaved Manes without an ounce of doubt for me!!!!  |
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