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LYNDILOU
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Joannebnd007
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 Posted - 15 Nov 2007 : 01:19:26 AM
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( It's Sandie, I have to use Joannes login as mine is AOL and has never worked )
Hi Egbert
Could you email me at setapsell@aol.com so I can ask a bit more about this filly ( Fawaura ). I dont want to clog up this thread with her |
Edited by - Joannebnd007 on 15 Nov 2007 01:20:17 AM |
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Egbert
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Posted - 16 Nov 2007 : 11:51:35 AM
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Originally posted by erica gilesHello Egbert could you please have a look at Marbon Mystic Star for me. Very interesterd to hear what you have to say about him thanks in advance 
Hi Erica,
What color is he? With that pedigree, sire line to Skowronek, dam line to Dajania, he is a double Kuhailan Dajania by strain, i.e., pure in the strain; he has to be very substantial, beautiful with eyes that are lovingly expressive but should be huge by the time he is 8 years of age. If he is a gray he is finer and with a bit of a 'ham' in his pedigree as Hanif is down there on the dam's side. He was the showman of showmen. Mystic Star should be a phenomenal ride as well. All in all he looks like he should be a very important Crabbet stallion when he grows up!
Tahir,
Azaliya must be stunning, elegant! Sire line Nazeer, dam line:Sahara PASB, Kuhailan but with definite Seglawi elements...Brilliant mover, great riding horse potential and a mare that you should be able to love and show in hand, too. She should be a superb broodmare as well. Very reliable. Faults might be that she is a tad on the long side and can be a bit dippy backed if ridden to early. The Polish dam line means she will be slow to mature and is only now coming into her self.
Mel,
Shaarinah is another who must be very lovely indeed, very Kuhailan, outstanding bone...Sire line to Kann, dam line to Mlecha...As with many of the heavy Polish lines would expect she would be of superb racing lines and would like to see her covered by a glamourous Seglawi line stallion. The wonderful Padron's Psyche gray, Justice?, would be a wonderful choice. And I like the look of Azaliya's sire, Taj or...there is always Antham (a very nice little Seglawi over here...ahem!)
And would someone PLEASE direct me to the site about how to post photos?
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Jingo
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erica giles
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Posted - 16 Nov 2007 : 3:47:33 PM
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Thanks Egbert he is chestnut and he is a showman already, poses without being asked |
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Arcanum
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Posted - 16 Nov 2007 : 5:33:48 PM
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Hi Egbert,
Re: Azaliya
Wow! You never fail to impress me! Thankyou very much. Can I ask (sorry last question!) Who would you use to cover her? What bloodlines will go best with hers?
Many thanks in advance
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MEL
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Posted - 16 Nov 2007 : 9:43:57 PM
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Hello again Egbert,many thanks for your reply re.Shaarinah.As you have said,she does have super limbs and great depth of girth and stands about 15.2h.h.at the moment.Could you possibly comment on any "good or not so good" conformation points which could occur in this pedigree and what sort of temperament would you expect?
I'm sorry, should have said, could you recommend a CHESTNUT stallion that would suit her conformation and pedigree(the owner really likes her chestnuts and doesn't mind lots of white).Thank you again and hope this isn't TOO MUCH trouble for you.
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gu-ku-vi
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Egbert
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Posted - 19 Nov 2007 : 10:12:33 AM
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Re Azaliya-I'd find a top notch Seglawi stallion...Domestically you have Charismma, for example and another that may not be available much longer is the stallion Emiliusz by Laheeb x Emocja...Everything suggests that he is a first class breeding stallion. He is currently at the European Training Center, I think, but was just sold but will remain at ETC for awhile longer:
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/emiliusz
Mel,
Would expect to see her temperament to be hot but good as long as she handled properly. She should have speed...Problems with the Polish lines the biggest problems are related to maturing at a snail's pace and overly long bodies, especially in the successful racing lines of which this dam line, Mlecha is associated.
You have *El Shaklan through the great FS Bengali and that usually indicates a horse of intense 'look at me' showiness yet with a tremendous desire to please.
As for a great chestnut stallion...two: Rusleem a Kuhailan Rodania...
or Antham, a Seglawi al Abd if available ... Think both can be found on All Breeds...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6sTO7NaHT4&eurl=http://www.allyssajane.com/allyssajane/marketing/stallions/antham/antham.html |
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Egbert
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Posted - 19 Nov 2007 : 10:40:20 AM
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Originally posted by gu-ku-viHi Egbert. I have this two foals this year, here is the pedigrees, how do you think they will develope when growing up? My plan is to keep them both, and especialy the colt interest me, as if good enough he will have some mares to coverwhen times comes to that sort of things (lol) http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/gkv+meadleyhttp://www.allbreedpedigree.com/gkv+samiThanks in advance Gunni.
Yup, LOVE the colt's pedigree. Sire line: Mahruss; dam line Dafina, a Kuhailan Khrush. This is one of the most important predominately Crabbets I've seen in a long time, given the pedigree. Even tho' he goes to Dafina, is he considered straight Crabbet? If so when will you be standing him? What age because I'd really like to use him if he is as good as his pedigree says he is! He should be very beautiful, near perfect conformation, peacocky, brilliant moving, extremely intelligent...Oh What a gem!
Sami is another who will be extremely compact yet elegant, beautiful (maybe not quite as beautiful as Meadley), great athlete, extreme intelligence. Aloof even with those she loves but will be surprisingly loyal...i.e., one of those that you don't realize how much she loves her human until something happens...This will be a quality filly. Sire line Mahruss, dam line Rodania, Kuhailan Rodania. Can't wait to see pictures of these two!
Well done Gunni! Great babies!
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gu-ku-vi
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Posted - 19 Nov 2007 : 7:11:32 PM
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Thank you Egbert, don´t know what to say, I´m too proud.Hope that both foals and I can live up to this.
Regards Gunni. |
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Egbert
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Posted - 20 Nov 2007 : 02:02:35 AM
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Hi Gunni,
You should be proud! These are wonderful representatives of straight Crabbet and a boon for those wanting to have straight Crabbet blood and wondering if there are any straights still available. You are and will be an important source of Crabbet bloodlines and in Meadley's case-a fairly rare line! |
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WILDROSE
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Posted - 20 Nov 2007 : 12:16:18 PM
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Hello Egbert,
My stallion 'Balmaran' is both dam tail female and sire tail female line to Dafina. Can you tell me what you would expect of him from these origins? Also my mares are an even split of Rodania and Seglawi tail female lines, I have other bloodlines in mind that I would like to try with him but would like to know if you had any recomendations.
Thanking you in advance for your time
Regards Lindsay.
BTW sorry I have not been able to do the link to allbreeds.
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Jingo
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Egbert
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Posted - 21 Nov 2007 : 9:15:05 PM
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Judith!
Thank you so much for both Balmaran's link to All Breeds...really helps, and the kind words about Antham...You know, if it is possible for horses to 'come back'/reincarnate...then I think Carmargue, or Carmagnole, is back. I've never seen a disposition this soft since those two, tho' *Rushan behaved just as sweetly with Camille in hand. Holly, Gary's wife let Camille ride Antham with just his lead rope to guide him...should have had that on the video as well....
Lindsay,
My guess is that you have a breeding stallion that would be as great a show horse as Psyche and possibly even more exciting, given that pedigree. Tremendous power behind it as well as beauty...Would expect to see a big, bold, masculine horse with a very very attractive head and who can transmit those characteristics without a problem. Would think you would love to have a lot of Seglawi mares for him...What a combo! Obviously, Sire line is Nazeer, dam line is Dafina and the overall influence in the 5th generation is Kuhailan with the renowned smoothness that comes through the Hamdani Simri mare, Sobha who is so influentially placed.
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Folks,
Just as an aside...I love you all dearly but please...rather than emailing me privately, PLEASE put your inquiries up here as from them everyone will learn. (had something like 10 pedigree requests in this mornings email) Obviously on some occasions it is difficult to do so for a variety of reasons and those I'll try to honor.
Also really appreciate those of you who have worked out the pedigrees and post the link to All Breeds. It is an invaluable tool, and most of the time accurate.
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Treasure
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Posted - 21 Nov 2007 : 11:06:43 PM
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Egbert - Hi I've just picked up on this thread after a while away from it so missed a bit. But your boys are fabulous  . I always remember Rushan as a yearling at Malvern and thought he was so very special and has turned out to be so. And Antham - wow - what a gentle horse and look at his tail! . I have a very nice, sweet-natured filly, Jumainah,(Aazari x Jammilah) who would like to send airmail messages to him  ! A match made in heaven perhaps! |
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Egbert
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Posted - 22 Nov 2007 : 11:30:08 AM
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Carolyn,
*Rushan is one of those magical horses who creates magical horses. Someone has dubbed Antham "The Enchanted" and that is a tickle 'cause it is, I think, a testament to the greatness of Rushan and his breeders John and Pat Coward who are dearly missed. And how many stallions does one remember showing years ago...That you remember him is a testament to how very special he was and is. And we are working to make Antham available in '08 and I know he would LOVE to meet Jumainah!
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cmj
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Posted - 23 Nov 2007 : 1:45:27 PM
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Hi Egbert
I wonder if you would do me the kindness of suggesting a suitable stallion/bloodline for my mare, Francesqua. I have not been brave enough to risk putting her in foal before, no reason, vet says OK, I just worry too much! Would like to breed one special foal. She is Polish, conceived at Bialka. Small, pretty head, substantial, slightly long in back but no weakness, tail a bit rooty and doesn't flag much. Excellent limbs, shoulder and length of hip. Could trot for England, very sensitive and quite highly strung but as gentle and loving as could be.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/francesqua
Thank you so much. CJ |
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Egbert
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Posted - 23 Nov 2007 : 2:14:18 PM
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There is a very broad group from which to seek cover, thankfully in the UK. Your mare is basically Kuhailan so would be inclined to hope you find a great Seglawi stallion. I've pointed out Emilusz in Belgium, Charismma, but there is another stallion, KZ Ibreez, a Kuhailan Rodania, a straight Egyptian, whose young stock, across the board were amongst the most superior I've seen anywhere. He can be found at Georgian Arabians. He might be well worth looking at. When looking at British breds and for Seglawi blood in particular, look for stallions carrying one to two lines to Bright Shadow. Not only was he quite calm and sweet, he had patience...and "he transmitted it" for up to 5 generations.
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cmj
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Posted - 24 Nov 2007 : 6:20:57 PM
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Hi
Thanks for suggestions. I did not know about KZ Ibreez but having looked at his foals on the website I see what you mean. Enquiries will be made!
Regards, cj |
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Treasure
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Posted - 24 Nov 2007 : 8:41:04 PM
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Egbert I agree about John and Pat Coward - one of my proudest moments was gaining 7th place in the 3 year old fillies class under Pat Coward at Malvern with my lovely Khazana bint Almas (Diamond Star x Raqisa, bred by Jingo). As she hasn't been shown much due to her serious dislike of travelling this was very special for Khazana to be recognised for her quality by Pat - and shown by myself too! They had great insight with their breeding programme as I'm sure you will testify - to breed the great stallions, Rusleem, Rushan and Roxan of course (the 'White Horse' of whisky fame!  ). And it's fascinating to see the differences between Rusleem and Rushan. You have to wonder whether modern fashion breeding has moved the breed on at all? Maybe that's another thread!  |
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Elys
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Posted - 26 Nov 2007 : 03:51:54 AM
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Wow! I got busy and disappeared for a while and this thread is STILL going. Although it is a fascinating thread so I shouldn't be overly surprised. I think I need to check back more often though since now I have waaay too much catching up to do.
Egbert I just saw your *Rushan and Antham videos and....WOW! I am smitten! There are some horses that look good in a photo and horrible on video, but yours are the opposite. They look even more stunning in motion (I wasn't sure that was possible!). You are so blessed!
Back to the topic, I actually had a horse I would love for you to check out if you have time (I know you must be so busy).
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/admiral+harnly
No rush though!  Thank you so much! |
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Anfi
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Egbert
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Posted - 26 Nov 2007 : 1:33:16 PM
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Carolyn,
Good question...Think it has been fun to see the modern breeding attempts but the best of the best emerge inevitably by coming back to the foundations....Bascially old Crabbet/old English. The resulting consistency, quality, is simply unparalleled.
Elys,
Where are you? This looks like an American pedigee! Sire line Skowronek via *Raffles and the dam's sire line is via *An Malik, one of the most beautiful stallions to ever come out of Spain...the dam line traces to the Blunt's desert mare Basilisk...So many of her strain, Seglawi Ibn Ed Derri, are exotically beautiful with manes and tails of the consistency of silk...Truly extraordinary. Sunset Enzio, the Admiral's sire, must be very very beautiful, intelligent and athletic...not very big...and the Admiral wouldn't be too big either as both parents should be small, not over 15 hands....but exquisitely Arabian and great fun. The kind of horses that everyone just loves.
Anne,
Great to see you! Thanks for the help!
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Silvern_Scepris
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